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US Marines Build Shrine To Islam
Front Page Mag ^ | 6/13/06 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan

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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
OK, so what does victory in a war against all of Islam look like?

It will look like Mithraism looks today.

61 posted on 06/13/2006 5:51:37 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: CWOJackson

Much as I'm a Rummy fan, I don't approve of this at ALL.


62 posted on 06/13/2006 5:51:44 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Peach
The phrase "Thank you, sir! May I have another?" Comes to mind.....
63 posted on 06/13/2006 5:52:04 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: CWOJackson; RaceBannon; XtreMarine; g'nad; Riley

Bleh! I work across the street from this newly dedicated building.

It's my understanding that most of the Muslims are foreign officers attending the Marine Corps University or EWS.

It's one thing to give them space to worship it's another to build a new Mosque.

Where does it stop?


64 posted on 06/13/2006 5:52:38 AM PDT by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
So, how do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam?

The same way Ferdinand and Isabella did on 2 January 1492: by destroying the cult of Mohammed. Ultimately, the Holy Spirit will bring the followers of Islam back into the Christian fold.

See also Reconquista.

65 posted on 06/13/2006 5:53:19 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan Any questions?)
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To: Buffettfan

I'm looking forward to the 20/20, Dateline, 48 hours, 60 mins on this.


66 posted on 06/13/2006 5:54:46 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: CWOJackson; Kolb
I was reading through this thread and began to feel a sense of hopelessness for it.

Thank you for rescuing me from that with rational and logical comments.

67 posted on 06/13/2006 5:55:08 AM PDT by Allegra (Mookie Sadr's Next!)
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To: MudPuppy
From this and more detailed information in previous article the facility was built for Marines. Strange thing about the DoD, they actually care about our troops: "A basic principle of our nation is free exercise of religion. The Department of Defense places a high value on the rights of members of the Armed Forces to observe the tenets of their respective religions."
68 posted on 06/13/2006 5:55:55 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Peach
You don't approve of allowing our service people the same religious freedoms they guarantee for you?
69 posted on 06/13/2006 5:57:04 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Allegra

I can't believe how some people treat our troops. They deserve far better then this kind of crap.


70 posted on 06/13/2006 5:57:50 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Yes, a Mosque was built so that Marines, putting their lives on the line every day to provide you your Constitutional rights, might actually get to enjoy freedom of religion like you.

Are you serious there CWO?

Do you see any conflict, any conflict whatsoever, with the following line out of Amendment 1 of the BoR/Constitution and Islam and the Koran?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Here's a clue. The Koran states the following as a mere sampling of much, much more:

[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah

[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal

[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Now, do you see any conflict there CWO with the First Amendment, ... anything, ... anything at all?!

71 posted on 06/13/2006 5:58:54 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Fruitbat

Yes, I see conflict. The conflict is that you would treat U.S. Freakin Marines as third rate citizens! They deserve far better then you.


72 posted on 06/13/2006 6:00:07 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Kind of like how Janet Reno didn't allow tghe Branch Davidians to fester within our society?

Boy, did I call you, didn't I. Hit and run. You bitch about me not answering your question, I answer it, then you begin your 5-year-old girl routine.

We're finished here. It's tough to discuss with rocks.

I'd direct you to post 71, but since you have so much difficulty simply being intellectually honest, it won't do much good.

We're finished here. So much for discussing ideas. Back to DU with ya.

73 posted on 06/13/2006 6:02:01 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: CWOJackson
I can't believe how some people treat our troops. They deserve far better then this kind of crap.

They certainly do.

It's bad enough they have to deal with ignorance from the media, but we don't need it in our faces on here as well.

74 posted on 06/13/2006 6:02:15 AM PDT by Allegra (Mookie Sadr's Next!)
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To: Peach; SJackson
What an outrage.

It sure is. WHAT are they thinking? So does the Air Force Academy in Colorado get to build a big ol' church on their grounds now? And while we're at it, sheepdips at Quantico, if you're going to be so pathetically PC, I want a synagogue built right next to that mosque.

75 posted on 06/13/2006 6:02:29 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Allegra

Maybe you too would like to take a crack at post #71.

Can I get anyone supporting this to address those points?

I imagine not.


76 posted on 06/13/2006 6:03:20 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Buffettfan

Excellent public relations. Maybe "Time" and "Newsweek" will run a cover story. Not.
Any time a Mosque is damaged, the marines should come in and restore it...
and "bug" the hell out it ,literally.


77 posted on 06/13/2006 6:03:55 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: CWOJackson

I'm telling you what I know - mostly foreign officers attend....very few US military.

Sure gives the US Muslim chaplain leverage for promoting conversions, etc...

Tell my why a Mosque should be built (on a military base) when they now have a space dedicated to meet and there are so few attending.
I really object to a new facility when there's adequate space being provided.


78 posted on 06/13/2006 6:04:03 AM PDT by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: All
Since when does anyone have the right to DENY the defenders of this nation the very same right of religious freedom that you enjoy because of their sacrifices? These men and women put their lives on the line every damned day so that you can sit on your asses in a nice safe country and enjoy many rights that you take for granted.

They sacrifice so much in their daily lives and now you people would even deny them the right to worship the religion of their choice because it isn't your choice. Where in the hell has the spirit of American gone?

79 posted on 06/13/2006 6:04:07 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Yes.


80 posted on 06/13/2006 6:04:23 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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