Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan
US Marines Build Shrine To Islam
By Paul Sperry
FrontPageMagazine.com
June 13, 2006 http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22845
We are at war with militant Islam, but you wouldn't know it from the Pentagon, which is busy erecting a shrine to Islam just five short years after Islamic terrorists destroyed a good chunk of its own building and killed more than 100 of its occupants. Worse, it's consulting on the project with a Wahhabi-educated cleric posing as a moderate.
Last week, military brass -- along with representatives from the terror-tied Council on American-Islamic Relations -- dedicated the first Muslim prayer center for the Marines as a symbol of the military's "religious tolerance" and "respect" for the faith the enemy uses to attack us. Already, plans are in the works to build by 2009 a bigger mosque at the Marine base in Quantico so Muslim service members can have a "proper place" to worship, and one that "honors their religious heritage," officials say, not realizing that the mosque can also be used by the enemy to build a Fifth Column inside the Marines.
The idea for the center came from Navy Lt. Abuhena Mohammed Saifulislam, a young, smooth-talking Muslim chaplain, who wanted a permanent place of worship -- and "education" -- for the growing number of soldiers who are interested in -- and converting to -- Islam.
Quantico has only 24 Muslims on base, so the mosque -- the first of its kind in the 230-year history of the Corps -- will also serve to introduce and draw other Marines to the faith. Large posters explaining how "Muslims love and respect Jesus" (but only as a minor prophet and not the son of God, which they view as blasphemous to Allah) line the inside of the white building. This is one way imam Saifulislam -- known on base simply as "Saif" -- bridges the faiths to reach out to Christian soldiers. Blacks are particularly susceptible to his pitch.
Apparently, whatever Saifulislam wants, he gets -- even at the terrorist prison camp at Gitmo, where he was first assigned after 9-11. There, he recommended that al-Qaida detainees be served halal meals -- including traditional dates and lamb -- prepared according to Islamic dietary law. The Gitmo menu now boasts 113 Muslim-appropriate meals for the benefit of finicky terrorist tummies.
That's not all. Thanks to Saifulislam's advice, our enemy now wakes to the sound of Muslim chaplains calling them to prayer instead of barking dogs or guards, who are now trained in Muslim sensitivity. Also thanks to Saifulislam, detainees can brush up on jihad by reading paperback Pentagon-issued copies of the Quran. They can even finger prayer beads and wear makeshift turbans and skull caps.
While at Gitmo, the Navy imam privately counseled al-Qaida prisoners in their native tongues of Urdu and Arabic. "I must give hope for them to cope," Saifulislam said. How thoughtful of him.
It turns out Saifulislam also ministered to Marine Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun, a fellow Muslim charged with desertion, just before he went AWOL again last year. Hassoun deserted his post in Iraq where he served as an Arabic translator. After he was captured, and after he met with the Quantico imam, he deserted again.
Saifulislam is clean-cut with a Colgate smile. The Pentagon gives him great latitude because he claims to be moderate.
However, Saifulislam studied Islam at a hardline Wahhabi school in Virginia that was raided by federal authorities after 9-11. And one of his mentors is Taha Jaber Al-Alwani, an unindicted co-conspirator in the Sami al-Arian terror case. Federal court records allege he gave at least $50,000 in jihad money "to support suicide bombings" in Israel.
Saifulislam, born in Bangladesh, insists he is only a Sunni Muslim and does not adhere to the faith's more orthodox and militant Wahhabi sect practiced by Osama bin Laden and his ilk. Still, his pro-jihad academic background should raise flags at the Pentagon.
Instead, it's giving him a permanent taxpayer-supported platform from which to convert grunts to Islam. With the Quantico mosque, the Pentagon is facilitating the study of the holy texts the enemy uses, heretically or not, as their manual of war. This is tantamount to the Marines setting up a Mein Kampf reading room during WWII.
The timing of the dedication ceremony is ironic by half. As the deputy secretary of defense and Marine commandant respectfully removed their shoes to enter the mosque and intoned pleasant PC platitudes about being one big happy "family" with Muslims, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police announced the arrest of 17 Muslim men who had allegedly plotted to explode fertilizer-based bombs at important sites in Canada. Their plans also called for attacking parliament and even beheading the prime minister. Almost half of them had attended the same mosque in Toronto.
Several military officers chose to sit out the Quantico ceremony than hear deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England mouth "salaams" to the Muslims in attendance. They think the mosque is misplaced, and don't trust its imam.
"I have great concern about this young Muslim chaplain," said Lt. Comm. Gary P. Stewart, also a Navy chaplain. "I don't trust him."
The Pentagon's over-the-top gesture is only the latest sign that political correctness is running amok inside the military. Chief chaplains for the Navy, Army and Air Force routinely meet with top leaders from the Islamic Society of North America for PC powwows, even though ISNA is a Saudi-backed group with ties to terrorists. No matter, the Pentagon distributes ISNA literature on Islam and Muslims to help increase troops' "sensitivity" toward Islam.
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This is absolutely the most ridiculous thing this country has done in the war on terror. What an outrage.
It's unimaginable we'd have done such a thing during WWII.
We're fighting a war against all of Islam?
Damn... I build a shrine to Islam every morning... then I flush.
So, are we fighting a war against all of Islam?
[[So, are we fighting a war against all of Islam?]]
No, islam is fighting a war against us in case you haven't noticed. They announce their intentions every day to either kill us or convert us.
So, is all of Islam fighting a war against us?
Churchill said "We will never surrender".
We say "We'll kiss your ass".
I'm fed up. It's GOT to stop!
I guess this all a nice PR stunt and everything, but that won't change the minds of these demon possessed fruitcakes we're fighting.
So, in other words, the situations are very different by their nature (we are not fighting a war against all of Islam, let alone a "total war" against all of Islam), but you refuse to acknowledge the point you made. Understood.
When you have people promoted based upon their performance at cocktail parties, rather their leadership and combat skills, you get "leaders" who emphasize political correctness. This is a result.
Radical Islam is an insane murder cult.
Moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
"I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam,"
Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party
No, we're not; and that is the problem!
...this can't possibly be true...it is so insane
Does it double as a urinary relief center?
So, how do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam?
That might come as a bit of a suprise to Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki, and King King Abdullah II of Jordan.
So, how do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam?
The same way you fight against all of the Third Reich - superior air power, a superior navy, artillery, troops, and a couple Pattons leading them all.
No, we're not. That's the problem here. The enemy has been misassessed.
Bush, with help and support from many others, has tried to pick and choose which muslims "aren't good." Well, this just in, but that's impossible. There are many millions upon tens and likely hundreds of millions of muslims worldwide, that support the militant side of Islam. But we just have no clue where they are/live. Many live right in this country and it's not "just a few" as the buzz phrase that gets tossed around. It's legion.
Zarqawi didn't create Islam, Islam created him. It will also have created "his successor." It has also created all of the 17 in Toronto, the 19 for 911, and the list can go on, and on, and on, ...!
This news should reveal how non-serious we truly are about this WOT. It's all at the political level where practicality takes a back seat to perceptions.
Honestly, if I were a Marine, I'd seriously be thinking WTF!! I might even ask for a premature release based on this somehow. If the country's not going to be serious about this war, then why should they?
The biggest issue at work here however is that apparent glaring lack of understanding. The alternative is something much worse.
Why don't we simply hand the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia the keys to our government too while we're at it! Eh George! What in Islam doctrine goes over so many peoples' heads that it simply isn't compatable with our U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and withholds the very freedom of religion and freedom of speech that are the two most basic premises of our entire way of life!
I have another idea too, let's erect a statue of Adolf Hitler somewhere too. Why stop here, now! In fact, how about a statue of Saddam Hussein on the Capitol Steps! Or Zarqawi in front of the Supreme Court! Let's really "reach out" here and grab both of our ankles with a 55-gallon drum of vaseline behind us.
I'm just wondering when it will finally become blatantly clear that we've done the wrong thing here, and what the ramifications will be by then.
That wasn't an answer.
How do you define victory in a war against all of Islam? What is the desired end state?
I couldn't agree more. This is outrageous and is why we have to kick these lifer pols out of office. This kind of thing will eventually destroy America.
There's a difference between "fighting a war against all of Islam" and inviting Islam into your nation with a red carpet.
Let me ask you, do you see anything problematic with Islam, at all?
OK. So, how would you correct this problem?
If you're saying we're supposed to fight a war against all of Islam, then what does victory look like?
Weird. You would think that Marine Corps training and Muslim faith would be in direct conflict.
We are not at war with all of Islam- we are at war with Islamic Extremism.
I can't believe that people sitting on their asses at home safe behind their monitors and keyboard would deny Marines the same priviledge.
I think we were posting simultaneously.
Anyway, OK, let's debate. I don't have too long now however, so let's move as quickly as possible.
Do you see anything problematic with Islam? Anything at all?
Nice effort to duck the question. I'm not answering your question until you answer mine. I'll repeat it for you. How do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam? What would victory look like?
We should be but we are not. Don't give any of us the moderate vs radical crap. Based upon the deafening silence from the nonexistent moderates ALL of Is-Slime is slime.
This country has become a prime example of the parent who can't bring himself to tell his child "NO" on anything.
We are not at war with all of Islam- we are at war with Islamic Extremism.
Are you even aware of what the doctrines of Islam are as laid out by Mohammed in the Koran?
What's the big deal?? I build shrines to islime several times a day. Of course I always wipe my koranus afterwards.
I asked a simple question. Why do you go out of your way to avoid answering it?
OK, so what does victory in a war against all of Islam look like?
That wasn't an answer.
How do you define victory in a war against all of Islam? What is the desired end state?
Yes, it was an answer, albeit one you don't like.
Desired end? Complete capitulation.
If you don't play to win, don't play. This isn't a squabble over land, it's the destruction of OUR religion, culture, and civilization.
Keep in mind, WE did'nt start this, it's been going on for a long, long time, and their desired end is well known.
To keep that from happening, they need to change, or be destroyed.
Capiche?
You must have missed the part where it said - there are only 24 Muslims on Quantico base. So a Mosque is being built for this tiny group?
So what, exactly, does that look like?
To keep that from happening, they need to change, or be destroyed.
OK, now we're getting somewhere.
FIrepower does not change belief systems. At most, it temporarily compels behavior, with that effect disappearing the instant the threat of force is removed. So that leaves "destruction."
How do you propose to destroy a religion with 1.3 billion adherents?
Yes, a Mosque was built so that Marines, putting their lives on the line every day to provide you your Constitutional rights, might actually get to enjoy freedom of religion like you.
Small group, small Mosque. Besides which, 24 is bigger than a number of small town congregations in the US.
OK, got it. I'll debate with Kolb then. Your question is entirely predicated on mine.
But, as I've foolishly done in the past with mentalities such as yourself, I'll answer your question nonetheless. Warning; you'll dismiss my answer and tell me that it's not an answer before revealing your pansy ways and copping out.
Q: How do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam?
A: Hopefully you don't have to fight all f Islam!! Hopefully it never comes to that. Otherwise it's an enormous mess, especially in a day and age with nukes in the hands of petty tyrants, dictators, and other Islamic leaders.
Have you ever heard the adage, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?" That's how you "fight" Islam!! By not allowing it to fester within your society! If you do, then you'll have to deal with the expressed attempts at takeover by Islamists, namely muslims, and Islamic rule just as happens like clockwork around the world and has since Islam's inception.
Now, in vain hopes that you were sincere, answer my question. If you doh't, then we're finished discussing this in your so far "I'm going to make my point devoid of any logic or reason and not allow those things to enter the conversation."
Q: Do you see anything problematic with Islam, its tenets, doctrines, etc.?
Again, my time is limited, so if you're serious, then just answer the question and allow me some liberty in this discussion, which will be relatively brief as long as you don't waste time.
I love Free Republic. If Muslims don't enlist in the military, it proves they're "terrorist sympathizers." If they do enlist, it proves they're "infiltrators."
The "thoughts" (chuckle) of the extreme left end of the Bell Curve, posted on the Internet for one and all to marvel at . . .
I saw this Oxen, and think it's one of the dumbest things we've ever done in this country.
Come on. This is clown time for you and the Marines. You know this is a steaming load.
Why would you deny those Marines the same Constitutional right of freedom of religion that they put their lives on the line for everyday to provide to you? Do you consider Marines less then citizens?
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