The Second Fall of Rome? (A bit sensationalized, but a good read)

FaithFreedom.org ^ | 7/13/2006 | Fjordman / Multiple Authors

[The Blitherer]

Though perhaps a bit alarmist, I found this article very informative.

[Chickensoup]

I think it is getting out there.

[Cinnamon]

we know that some of the greatest civilizations fell to multiculturalism.. they fewll apart from within. a culture can only absoorb so much before it loses its identity.

[kaktuskid]

Rising nations such as China, India, Brazil and Iran will challenge America's sole superpower status.

Brazil?

[ConorMacNessa]

The Barbarians are at the gates.

[ClaireSolt]

Migration is definately going on all over the world. Fortunately, we are producing reverse migration in Afghanistan and Iraq.

[robowombat]

Interestingly this website FaithFreedom.org is blocked on US Army computers as 'Hate Speech'. PC amok.

[Former Proud Canadian]

I don't mind the Goths so much. It's the Visigoths and the Vandals I'm afraid of.

[churchillbuff]

Fortunately, we are producing reverse migration in Afghanistan and Iraq."""

No we're not. I don't know anybody who is planning to leave the US and go live in either country. We've got some military troops on the ground, but that's hardly a "migration." The natives are still in control in both countries.

[churchillbuff]

Migration is definately going on all over the world. """

Not in Mexico. They kick you out if you cross their border illegally. In contrast, George Bush has said, through his policies about immigrants, bring em on! So migration is happening in US, but not "all over the world."

[backhoe]

I have been psuedo-blogging these issues for years, and I believe we are in the opening stages of World War Four, and that the barbarians are already inside the gates.

As my old pal from long vanished, long dead other forums, ALOHA RONNIE likes to say

NEVER FORGET

that this

Terror Strike Toronto ( Aborted! )-- Click the picture:

is a subset of this:

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

And then, there is this little problem:

"Thunder on the Border," click the picture:

What is happening under the radar is that the alien lobby, certain elements of radical Islam, and some on the Left share common goals, tactics, and exploitations of our system and society.

Work backwards on my links to see all the shady left-wing and terrorist-enabling organizations backing this rubbish.

[livius]

More a throwback to the Middle Ages, the period before the rise of the nation states, complete with feudalism and tribalism, Muslim raids and people retreating into their own little fortresses while a few islands of sanity, similar to the monasteries a thousand years ago, will try to keep something of our cultural heritage alive.

This is exactly what it would be. It's hard to imagine that it could happen, but I do think it's possible, alas.

[NaughtiusMaximus]

Free Republic is such a fortress/monastery.

[j.havenfarm]

You're afraid of Visigoths? You haven't BEEN afraid until you've gone up against an Ostrogoth. They eat Visigoths for breakfast!

[jwh_Denver]

Yeah, we all know we're in deep s**t now but when are we going to do something about it?

[ichabod1]

I never liked the Ostrogoths. Auslanders.

[AnalogReigns]

I'm an American in a German-language school for the summer in Germany. It's been fascinating for me to see some of Europe's Muslims first hand. Probably 1/3 of the school are Middle-Eastern--Westernized in dress and other things, but also, not Westernized. About 1/3 are American or Canadian (actually hard to tell the difference, eh) and 1/3 miscellaneous Asian. Of the Arabs, these guys (almost all guys) stick together like glue, talk only in their own languages, and of the cultural events offered by the study center (an we are in a VERY cultured city)...seem to have absolutely no interest. They are ENTIRELY different than Europeans.

It seems only American and Canadians seem interested in what most involves the Germans here, the highlights of their culture, music, architecture and the arts... Not to be racist in generalizing, but almost all those of color seem to show no interest in things German other than learning the language (for business or school). It is very revealing.

I really hate to think what will happen to the treasures of Europe--it's art, architecture, music, choirs, churches, etc, if/when Muslims make up a majority here. It really is pretty scary. Yet Germans are so afraid of being racist...the general attitude is, "isn't all this multi-culturalism wonderful!" It is a strange situation, but, I wonder if the General in this article is right...you can't have one people with two sets of values. The minorities in Europe now could care less for the things here that made Western Civilization great...

And remember fellow Americans, yes, our ancestors left, but it was the attitudes, religion and culture they brought from old Europe that helped establish America and make her great.

If Europe falls, we won't be far behind.

[The Blitherer]

Thank you. Its always very interesting to hear from somebody with first-hand experience. People can have statistics and charts, but its not the same as seeing it for yourself.

[SoCal Pubbie]

All these comparisons to ancient Rome ignore a few realities. The Roman Empire thrived when it assimilated the peoples of conquered territories. Those who served the army for a specified period of time became Roman citizens. Many Imperial generals were not Italian. The Emperors Trajan, Hadrian, and Flavius Theodosius was born in Spain (though some were from families originally from Italy) and Constantine was born in Serbia.

The real troubles with foreigners coming into the Empire began with the treatment of the Goths, who were fleeing the Huns and pushing to move West. They were mistreated by by the Emperor, and shunned by Roman society. Instead of assimilating them, the Romans bred an enemy within their own ranks.

As much a factor in Rome's decline was their own internal decay and infighting. Finally, the Eastern Roman Empire survived another thousand years after the fall of Rome, and the peoples of the West, even the Germanic tribes, tried to live as Romans, or revive the Roman Empire in different forms for hundreds of years to come.

[yankeedame]

All these comparisons to ancient Rome ignore a few realities...

A few??