Posted on 06/14/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker
I am posting this article because very few people know that the Catholic Church is going out of their way to make sure CIRA is the law of the land. The church has supported illegal immigration for many years and they have been active in getting CIRA passed. I also publishing this article in the hopes that the many Catholics who support the House of Representatives would know what their church is doing on the illegal immigration issue in the United States. I really do not think that Roman Catholics know the churches position on this matter.I know that there are many Catholics out there who support the "borders enforcement only" approach, not the approach the pro-illegal immigrant. approach our leaders has taken.
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No, it's not. And you're wasting bandwidth when you should be formally renouncing the Masons.
Your changing the story because you know that Liberation Theology has infected the church and behind its pro illegal immigration stance
It is not the church's fault that due to the actions of individual illegal aliens, some children have been put into jeopardy of their financial future. An analogous situation might be to compare the plight of a parent facing incarceration. His actions carry consequences, one of which is that his child and spouse will have to make do without him.
The Church should be talking on this issue.
I'm sorry, but we disagree in this instance. The political issue of immigration policy is not within the scope of Catholic faith and morals.
The church cannot talk with integrity on the dignity of the human person and the family, issues such as divorce laws, abortion, same sex marriage , euthanaisa, and ignore this issue and not try its best to make sure that that person and family(the domestic church) is to to be treated with dignity and respect
Treating someone with dignity and respect does not necessarily include advocating that the government issue a license to break the law, or change the laws in order to accomodate previous lawbreaking behavior.
This Masons versus Catholics thing is quite halarious to this WASP near atheist. It must be grand to have time to debate such an extraneous matter to anything remotely important about anything.
If people want to get rid of birthright citizenship for future children that is fine. That could be a possible solution. At this point I am trying to figure out what to do with the people we have here now and to do it where the result is Just and Christ like.
I would have to think a guestworker program, some pathway to citizenship(at this time I am hearing it would take 12 years or more or thats whats being proposed) is one side. Deportation of the criminals that are here and those that commit serious crimes in the future, real border security, and real employee sanctions is the other side of the coin. If both are done the illegal immigration problem should be brought under control. THe key here is that any law does not do unneeded violence to the human person or family.
Is it really necessary to introduce the word "Marxism" into a debate about immigration policy? Don't you find that a tad embarrassing?
How does this have anything to do with Liberation theology. If the above is an example of Marxist thought I have to admit I am baffled. I have not seen many Marrxist quote and try to use the CATO institute as a source.
Church concern for the alien and for the poor does not equate to liberation Theolgy. IF that was the case then God must be a closet Marxist because the bible is full of mandates to take care of the poor and the alien in our midst. The above has nothing to do with liberation theology. The fact that John Paul II is quoted giving much the same position as the Bishops should be proof enough. John Paul II condemmed liberation Theolgy
Why should that be embarassing?
No."Liberation Theology"(religious Marxism) is the theology the Church uses to defend illegal immigration
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No.
The USCCB has sunk to blatant advocacy of terrible public policy. Very disappointing.
Here is a refutation of the USCCB misuse of scripture to justify their wrong-headed stance:
http://rightreason.ektopos.com/archives/2006/05/illegal_immigra.html
That strikes me as ludicrous. Marxism is an economic doctrine. Immigration is about just how free markets should be when it comes to the movement of labor inputs. I frankly find no nexus whatsoever. It is an attempt to truncate debate by slapping a noisome term as an overlay. It is quite annoying to this poster, because it does nothing to enhance the debate about a very important issue.
So, a succession of popes beginning with Peter and continuting down the line to Benedict XVI is not proof.
No. You are wrong.
What is the source of your quote?"
Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino, 1441, and infallible declaration of the supreme magisterium of the Catholic Church.
It does not state that one must formally be a member of the Church.
Not my problem.
This quote is particularly false:
"and that no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."
So you just up and figure the Pope, while speaking ex cathedra, spoke falsely?
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