Posted on 06/14/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker
I am posting this article because very few people know that the Catholic Church is going out of their way to make sure CIRA is the law of the land. The church has supported illegal immigration for many years and they have been active in getting CIRA passed. I also publishing this article in the hopes that the many Catholics who support the House of Representatives would know what their church is doing on the illegal immigration issue in the United States. I really do not think that Roman Catholics know the churches position on this matter.I know that there are many Catholics out there who support the "borders enforcement only" approach, not the approach the pro-illegal immigrant. approach our leaders has taken.
Can you show me what is MArxist about it? I have not seen one statement that is marxist in the above document
All execept for the state to regulate its bordrers are all tenants of socialist/Marxist ideology.
Give Up Already.
Most Marxist regimes in history monitored their borders very tightly indeed.
I would agree.
Read this carefully:
The Catholic Church has difficulty with Freemasonry because it is indeed a kind of religion unto itself. The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites and promises of eternal reward and punishment. While in America, most Masons are Christian and will display a Bible on their "altar," in the same lodges or elsewhere, Jews, Moslems, Hindus or other non-Christian religions can be admitted and may use their own sacred scriptures. (In France, in 1877, the "Grand Orient" Lodge eliminated the need to believe in God or the immortality of the soul, thereby admitting atheists into their fold; this atheistic type of Freemasonry spread particularly in Latin countries.)
Moreover, the rituals involve the corruption of Christianity. The cross is merely a symbol of nature and eternal life, devoid of Christ's sacrifice for sin. INRI (for Christians, Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum, i.e., Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews) means for Masons Igne Natura Renovatur Integra, i.e., by fire nature is renewed entirely, referring to the sacred fire’s (truth and love) regeneration of mankind just as the sun regenerates nature in the Spring.
The rituals are also inimical to Catholicism. During the initiation rite, the candidate expresses a desire to seek "light," and he is assured that he will receive the light of spiritual instruction that he could not receive in another Church and that he will gain eternal rest in the "celestial lodge" if he lives and dies according to Masonic principles. Note also that since Masonry involves non-Christians, the use of the name of Jesus is forbidden within the lodge.
A strong anti-Catholicism also permeates Freemasonry. The two traditional enemies of Freemasonry are the royalty and the papacy. Masons even believe that Christ, dying on Calvary, was "the greatest among the apostles of Humanity, braving Roman despotism and the fanaticism and bigotry of the priesthood." When one reaches the 30th degree in the Masonic hierarchy, called the Kadosh, the person crushes with his foot the papal tiara and the royal crown, and swears to free mankind "from the bondage of Despotism and the thraldom of spiritual tyranny."
A second difficulty with Freemasonry for Catholics involves the taking of oaths. An oath is a religious act that asks God to witness the truth of the statement or the fulfillment of a promise. Only the Church and the state for serious reason can require an oath. A candidate makes an oath to Freemasonry and its secrets under pain of death or self-mutilation by kneeling blindfolded in front of the altar, placing both hands on the volume of sacred law (perhaps the Bible), the square and compass, and repeating after the "worshipful master." Keep in mind that the candidate does not yet even know all the "secrets" to which he is taking an oath. This oath is wrongful because of to whom and to what the candidate is swearing.
The history of Freemasonry has proven its anti-Catholic nature. In the United States, one of the leaders of Freemasonry, General Albert Pike (d. 1891), referred to the papacy as "a deadly, treacherous enemy," and wrote, "The Papacy has been for a thousand years the torturer and curse of Humanity, the most shameless imposture, in its pretense to spiritual power of all ages." In France in 1877, and in Portugal in 1910, Freemasons took control of the government for a time and enacted laws to restrict the activities of the Church particularly in education. In Latin America, the Freemasons have expressed anti-church and anti-clerical sentiment.
Since the decree "In Eminenti" of Pope Clement XII in 1738, Catholics have been forbidden to join the Masons, and until 1983, under pain of excommunication. Scanning official documents, the Church has condemned Freemasonry and other secret societies at least 53 times since 1738, and has specifically repeated the condemnation of Freemasonry 21 times. (The Orthodox and several Protestant churches also ban membership in the Masons.) Confusion occurred in 1974 when a letter by Cardinal Franjo Seper, then Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was interpreted to mean that Catholics could join Masonic lodges that were not anti-Catholic, an interpretation widely advanced by the media; however, the same congregation declared this interpretation as erroneous in 1981.
On Nov. 26, 1983, with the approval of Pope John Paul II, the Sacred Congregation reiterated the ban on Catholics joining the Masons: "The Church’s negative position on Masonic association ... remains unaltered, since their principles have always been regarded as irreconcilable with the Church’s doctrine. Hence, joining them remains prohibited by the Church. Catholics enrolled in Masonic associations are involved in serious sin and may not approach Holy Communion." However, neither this declaration nor the 1983 Code of Canon Law imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics belonging to the Masons. While some Masonic lodges may provide great service to the community, when a Catholic understands this group’s history, religious pretense and anti-Catholic bias, one must question, "Why would a serious, practicing Catholic even consider joining?"
You cannot receive the Eucharist as long as you are a member of a Masonic Lodge.
What?
From our Current Pope when he was Cardinal in Rome's offical statement in 84. I haven't even got into the later statements. From the above link
". The warning against the serious deviations of some "theologies of liberation" must not be taken as some kind of approval, even indirect, of those who keep the poor in misery, who profit from that misery, who notice it while doing nothing about it, or who remain indifferent to it. The Church, guided by the Gospel of mercy and by the love for mankind, hears the cry for justice [28] and intends to respond to it with all her might."
The issues of the poor, migration , and the abilty to work and human dignity are not Socialist or marxist issues. Those are Christian issues.
Who is wasting bandwith now.
Ho Hum
I don't agree with certain bishop's stances on illegal immigration, nor do I believe Church teaching support thems. However, you seem to be saying that they should not do something merely because it is "not popular with parishioners." Do you think every doctrine should be a popularity contest?
I will say though you need to pray over this mason issue. If you are going to communion then its quite possible you are committing a mortal sin since you know its against Church law and you are in willful disobedience. It doesnt matter if a Priest knows about it. If he is going along with it then thats his soul.
I am not going to hammer you on it but I just say this out of general concern. But I won't bother you on it again
Yawn
Well, I say a prayer for you anyway this Sunday anyway you stubborn Freeper lol . Perhaps I will say it to our Lady of Guadulepe and ask that she will intervene. That would be ironic lol
You are wrong. Fr. Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience. Pope Pius XII repeatedly ordered him to Rome to discuss the issue with him. Fr. Feeney ignored the order repeatedly. That is why he was excommunicated, not whatever beliefs he may have had that ran counter to Church teaching.
"The Catholic Church has difficulty with Freemasonry because it is indeed a kind of religion unto itself. The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites and promises of eternal reward and punishment. While in America, most Masons are Christian and will display a Bible on their "altar," in the same lodges or elsewhere, Jews, Moslems, Hindus or other non-Christian religions can be admitted and may use their own sacred scriptures. (In France, in 1877, the "Grand Orient" Lodge eliminated the need to believe in God or the immortality of the soul, thereby admitting atheists into their fold; this atheistic type of Freemasonry spread particularly in Latin countries.)
Moreover, the rituals involve the corruption of Christianity. The cross is merely a symbol of nature and eternal life, devoid of Christ's sacrifice for sin. INRI (for Christians, Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum, i.e., Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews) means for Masons Igne Natura Renovatur Integra, i.e., by fire nature is renewed entirely, referring to the sacred fire’s (truth and love) regeneration of mankind just as the sun regenerates nature in the Spring.
The rituals are also inimical to Catholicism. During the initiation rite, the candidate expresses a desire to seek "light," and he is assured that he will receive the light of spiritual instruction that he could not receive in another Church and that he will gain eternal rest in the "celestial lodge" if he lives and dies according to Masonic principles. Note also that since Masonry involves non-Christians, the use of the name of Jesus is forbidden within the lodge.
A strong anti-Catholicism also permeates Freemasonry. The two traditional enemies of Freemasonry are the royalty and the papacy. Masons even believe that Christ, dying on Calvary, was "the greatest among the apostles of Humanity, braving Roman despotism and the fanaticism and bigotry of the priesthood." When one reaches the 30th degree in the Masonic hierarchy, called the Kadosh, the person crushes with his foot the papal tiara and the royal crown, and swears to free mankind "from the bondage of Despotism and the thraldom of spiritual tyranny."
A second difficulty with Freemasonry for Catholics involves the taking of oaths. An oath is a religious act that asks God to witness the truth of the statement or the fulfillment of a promise. Only the Church and the state for serious reason can require an oath. A candidate makes an oath to Freemasonry and its secrets under pain of death or self-mutilation by kneeling blindfolded in front of the altar, placing both hands on the volume of sacred law (perhaps the Bible), the square and compass, and repeating after the "worshipful master." Keep in mind that the candidate does not yet even know all the "secrets" to which he is taking an oath. This oath is wrongful because of to whom and to what the candidate is swearing.
The history of Freemasonry has proven its anti-Catholic nature. In the United States, one of the leaders of Freemasonry, General Albert Pike (d. 1891), referred to the papacy as "a deadly, treacherous enemy," and wrote, "The Papacy has been for a thousand years the torturer and curse of Humanity, the most shameless imposture, in its pretense to spiritual power of all ages." In France in 1877, and in Portugal in 1910, Freemasons took control of the government for a time and enacted laws to restrict the activities of the Church particularly in education. In Latin America, the Freemasons have expressed anti-church and anti-clerical sentiment.
Since the decree "In Eminenti" of Pope Clement XII in 1738, Catholics have been forbidden to join the Masons, and until 1983, under pain of excommunication. Scanning official documents, the Church has condemned Freemasonry and other secret societies at least 53 times since 1738, and has specifically repeated the condemnation of Freemasonry 21 times. (The Orthodox and several Protestant churches also ban membership in the Masons.) Confusion occurred in 1974 when a letter by Cardinal Franjo Seper, then Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was interpreted to mean that Catholics could join Masonic lodges that were not anti-Catholic, an interpretation widely advanced by the media; however, the same congregation declared this interpretation as erroneous in 1981.
On Nov. 26, 1983, with the approval of Pope John Paul II, the Sacred Congregation reiterated the ban on Catholics joining the Masons: "The Church’s negative position on Masonic association ... remains unaltered, since their principles have always been regarded as irreconcilable with the Church’s doctrine. Hence, joining them remains prohibited by the Church. Catholics enrolled in Masonic associations are involved in serious sin and may not approach Holy Communion." However, neither this declaration nor the 1983 Code of Canon Law imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics belonging to the Masons. While some Masonic lodges may provide great service to the community, when a Catholic understands this group’s history, religious pretense and anti-Catholic bias, one must question, "Why would a serious, practicing Catholic even consider joining?"
That's a very interesting take.
I knew quite a few Catholics who were DeMolays.
Go figger...
I think you are okay. ;o)
From my one contact with a teen member back when, it was a useful avenue to land "successful" dates. Maybe that has something to do with it. Over and out.
Now who is incorrectly presenting Church teaching? Nowhere does the Church teach that "anyone with a sincere heart" goes to Heaven. Even practicing Catholic who "seek God with a sincere heart," are not going to heaven on that basis. That's as wrong as saying no one who is not formally part of the Catholic Church could go to heaven. You're as wrong as Fr. Feeney.
Your continual mention of Fr. Feeney, then, is nothing more than an attempt to cover up that fact that what you said is in contradiction to the infallible dogma of the Catholic Church, and also to cover the fact that you stated that a pope had spoken in error while in the course of infallibly defining a point of dogma.
In the meantime, you take someone to task for being a Freemason and a Catholic at the same time, while you yourself hold the very position of the Freemasons in regards to religious pluralism.
It doesn't get more fun than this.
LOL!
Roger that.
You may be right. ;o)
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