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The Early Bird: Fossils Depict Aquatic Origins of Near-Modern Birds 115 Million Years Ago
University of Pennsylvania ^
| 15 June 2006
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Posted on 06/15/2006 11:39:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: KMJames
Why not incline on the fact that the animal is so remarkably "like a duck" that it probably was a duck - in light of the fact that there is absolutely no reason to believe it wasn't a duck. Ichthyornis looked like a late-Cretaceous gull. It had teeth.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:19:56 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
To: VadeRetro
...Where do you see anything in the article about the beak on the missing head being "not quite?" Did the strawman put up a terrific fight?...Actually I am looking right now at a reconstructive illustration of the specimen. I didn't realize that the image was not with the article that is posted here. I am looking an image from a different "non web" source.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:24:06 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: VadeRetro
...Where do you see anything in the article about the beak on the missing head being "not quite?" Did the strawman put up a terrific fight?...Actually I am looking right now at a reconstructive illustration of the specimen. I didn't realize that the image was not with the article that is posted here. I am looking an image from a different "non web" source.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:24:07 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: KMJames
A very similar inference was dead on the money regarding Archaeopteryx.
In 1861, the first Archaeopteryx fossil was found. It was clearly a primitive bird with reptilian features. But, the fossil's head was very badly preserved. In 1872 Ichthyornis and Hesperornis were found. Both were clearly seabirds, but to everyone's astonishment, both had teeth. It was predicted that if we found a better-preserved Archaeopteryx, it too would have teeth. In 1877, a second Archaeopteryx was found, and the prediction turned out to be correct.
Is Evolution Science?
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:25:07 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
To: KMJames
Yes, I'm sure they put a head on it. Had to.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:26:09 PM PDT
by
VadeRetro
(Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
To: RunningWolf
...When I get it done and put up on image shack I will ping you in...Please do. Every time I see your posts I think about the three lights (or is it two lights) from Star Trek. LOL
Best regards,
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:28:46 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: KMJames
Every time I see your posts I think about the three lights (or is it two lights) from Star Trek.
There are FOUR lights.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:30:36 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: KMJames
The SToE can contend with previously considered extinct organisms being found to be extant because there is no mechanism which sets a hard and fast maximum limit to the number of generations a species can have.
Do you know of some mechanism that would?
On the other hand, finding a fossil of a human in precambrian rock would be difficult to explain.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:32:52 PM PDT
by
b_sharp
(There is always one more mess to clean up.)
To: VadeRetro
Look, I've worked with scientific illustrators before, even hired a few, and I know the license they have to make "intermediates" appear intermediate.
There is often ZERO EVIDENCE for the stuff they put in an illustration.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:33:02 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: KMJames
'chain of commmand' Thats the way it feels sometimes LOL
Regards,
Wolf
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:33:19 PM PDT
by
RunningWolf
(2-1 Cav 1975)
To: b_sharp
...finding a fossil of a human in precambrian rock would be difficult to explain....No it wouldn't. It would be an "anomaly" and pushed aside.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:35:33 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: b_sharp
Yeah, no wonder the Mark II Bird went extinct.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:35:59 PM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: KMJames
Only in the alternative reality that you and so many of your fellows seem to inhabit.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:36:41 PM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: Dimensio
There are FOUR lights.Pardon me for misunderestimating the power of the ToE.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:37:59 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: CharlesWayneCT
It would be nice to see at least ONE scientist willing to hypothesize that this creature actually didn't have a skull, and see where it leads them. This is your brain on Creationism placemarker.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:51:21 PM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
("You can either accept science and face reality, or live in a childish dream world" - Lisa Simpson)
To: Oztrich Boy
I don't know, it seems like so many people don't use their heads, maybe birds don't really need them either. The example of Mike the headless chicken has already been offered.
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posted on
06/15/2006 3:57:46 PM PDT
by
ahayes
("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
To: PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; Dimensio; RunningWolf; b_sharp
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posted on
06/15/2006 4:19:02 PM PDT
by
KMJames
(Hyperbole is killing us.)
To: KMJames
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posted on
06/15/2006 4:27:19 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
To: Abigail Adams
Of course. Everything's possible with creation.
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posted on
06/15/2006 4:30:38 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(Rivers will run dry and mountains will crumble, but two wrongs will never make a right.)
To: longshadow
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:13:02 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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