HPV Vaccine—Another Deception of the Culture of Death

Human Life International ^ | 6/16/2006 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

[Zeroisanumber]

What about the people who rely on science in an effort to not put their children at risk, but then they become disabled or die as a result of a vaccine reaction?

Such sever reactions to vaccines are vanishingly rare and occur at a much lower rate than disease mortality that would result from not using them.

Is there sadness there as well or are they just statistics at the end of the bell curve and got the bad break-- oh well, poor you???

I have a better chance of being killed in a car accident than a child does of having a severe reaction to a vaccine, but I still drive to work every day.

[Toby06]

one man + one woman for life.

That a0goes aganist human nature and b)realistically only covers about 2 or 3% of the US population.

This vaccine is a good thing, despite any religous implication and those that would prefer people die for others religious ideals.

[HairOfTheDog]

It's a preventable cancer. If I had a choice, I think I'd choose to not have cancer than to catch a cancer that's 'not too bad according to palmer'.

[Zeroisanumber]

But to that family whose child was the 1 in 140,000, it's 1 in 1 for them...

Yes, but many many many more children and adults would die without the DPT vaccine than die because of it.

[AlanSC]

I forgot to ask in the earlier reply - what did you think of the item on the thimersol content? Is that a legitimate concern?

[palmer]

Measles virus doesn't cause death although opportunistic bacterial infections can. You need to be more specific about what the children in the UK died from.

[kailbo]

Whatever happened to the Bubonic Plague?

What vaccine virtually eradicated that in the dark ages?

[HairOfTheDog]

Was that in the huge list of links, sorry, I opted not to spend the day reading your spam :~D

I have no idea that thimersol is. That's why I pay doctors. I got a bunch of vaccines in my childhood, as did everyone I know. and we're OK.

[kailbo]

I don't believe that can be proven. Diseases run there courses. Paralytic polio was on the decline before mass immunization was introduced. Bubonic plague ran its course, all be it killing a great population in Europe. But back then, you didn't have the sanitation we have today. Bubonic plague is still around. Why are there not outbreaks today. I would submit nutrition and sanitation play a large role.

[Zeroisanumber]

The vaccine will have its own risks (including death), the disease it is supposed to prevent is relatively rare (compared to the childhood diseases for other vaccines), the cure for the disease is relatively effective.

The risk of death from the vaccine is miniscule compared to the risk of death from cervical cancer. Far from being "relatively rare" cervical cancer is the second most common form of cancer in the female population. The treatment is effective because many women get a yearly pap smear that allows doctors to catch the cancer early on, but the treatment is still painful, expensive, and frequently results in sterility.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think we slow that one down mostly from not letting rats poop on our food. :~)

[AlanSC]

You are quoting the herd theory that if enough of the herd is protected, then the remainder is safe.

Was the vaccine really responsible for the decline or was it improvements in overall medical care, sanitation, central heating and air, and nutrition.

I don't have the graph in front of me but one I looked at before tracked the polio and other rates of infection from the early 1900s and the there was a noticeable declining trend of the diseases prior to the advent of the mass innoculation.

People often cite that mercury is not a causation of autism but yet, can you cite how the vaccine directly affected the rate of transmission one way or the other?

As for my child playing in a pool of polio - I do let my child play in the pools today and though not infested with polio, there is probably a host of other things that most people would be concerned with that doesn't bother me.

[Toby06]

"Conservatives"-Who-Are-Actually-Libertarians-Who-Hold-The-Same-Morals-As-Leftists-Dumbing-Down-Conservatism-on-FreeRepublic Bump!

Hardcore religiousness does not necessarily equal conservative values bump.

[HairOfTheDog]

You are quoting the herd theory that if enough of the herd is protected, then the remainder is safe.

Do you disagree?

[linda_22003]

He looks ready for a nice dish of roast duck with mango salsa.

[HairOfTheDog]

Was the vaccine really responsible for the decline or was it improvements in overall medical care, sanitation, central heating and air, and nutrition ....snip.... As for my child playing in a pool of polio - I do let my child play in the pools today and though not infested with polio, there is probably a host of other things that most people would be concerned with that doesn't bother me.

There's always a few causes and effects involved, it's not just vaccines, it's better hygiene, better curative medicine, better sanitation. None should be looked at in a vacuum. The truth is, because of the vaccine and herd immunity, you no longer fear polio in the pool, even with an unvaccinated child. If polio returned, it would not be because of the vaccinated kids.

[kailbo]

To me, he looks more like he lost his apetite...

[WV Mountain Mama]

*snicker*

[Zeroisanumber]

I don't believe that can be proven. Diseases run there courses. Paralytic polio was on the decline before mass immunization was introduced.

Paralytic polio was on the decline because parents were so bloody terrified of their children catching it that they kept them indoors and away from public areas. Polio peaked in 1952 when over 52,000 cases were reported. After Dr. Jonas Salk's vaccine was approved in 1955 cases dropped by 90% in two years.

There's a reason that they put Dr. Salk on a stamp.

Bubonic plague ran its course, all be it killing a great population in Europe. But back then, you didn't have the sanitation we have today. Bubonic plague is still around. Why are there not outbreaks today. I would submit nutrition and sanitation play a large role.

Bubonic plague is a bacteria, not a virus, and the reason that it isn't prevalent in the population today is because it can be treated with penicillin. The disease itself still exists, but medical science prevents a germ pool from developing and allowing a mass outbreak. There were six cases of Bubonic plague reported in the US last year, all in the Utah/Arizona/New Mexico desert areas where rodents that carry infected fleas are common.

[palmer]

As long as most people are vaccinated, the few who don't can feel superior in their choice, because the rest of us protect them from the disease. They benefit now from the earlier success of the vaccine.

That logic is true with some of the older childhood disease vaccines, but it doesn't apply here. The disease won't be stopped or curtailed with this vaccine the way the others were.