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'He was the first and closest target'[Jihad attack in Maryland]
Balto Sun ^ | 17 jun 06 | Nick Shields and Josh Mitchell

Posted on 06/17/2006 5:02:14 PM PDT by white trash redneck

In what police described as a random attack, Paul Schrum, a 62-year-old medical supplies salesman from Pikesville, was shot dead while watching a movie at Loews Valley Center 9 in Owings Mills. About 20 minutes into the film, police said, the gunman stood, told everyone to get on the floor and fired four shots.
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The suspect is a 24-year-old man, a 2000 graduate of Mount Hebron High School in Howard County and a 2005 graduate of Loyola College, where he majored in biology. Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar's family home is a house valued at more than $1 million in one of Baltimore County's most affluent neighborhoods.

According to charging documents, Jabbar told police that he had planned to kill someone for several months.

He has been charged with first-degree murder. He was being held without bail at the county detention center. A search of court records showed nothing more than traffic violations for Jabbar.

Jabbar's address is in Anton North, one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Baltimore County, with million-dollar mansions hidden by trees and at the end of long, twisting driveways.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baltimore; baltimorecell; gwot; howardcounty; islam; jabbar; jihad; jihadinamerica; kosovo; michaelmoore; mujtabajabbar; muslimamericans; nonterroristattack; terrorattack; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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To: BenLurkin

Bingo.

At some point, we're going to need to address the root of the problem.


141 posted on 06/18/2006 5:36:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

"Get a rope, a tree and a stool."


142 posted on 06/18/2006 5:39:51 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
Baltimore, MD...hrmmmmm. Not much chance any of the moviegoers (or anyone else for that matter) are willing and able to conceal a firearm for just this type of contingency.

Sitting in a movie seat on top of 3 pounds of steel, lead, and brass will never be uncomfortable for me.

143 posted on 06/18/2006 5:47:42 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: edpc

Okay, it's complicated in some cases. But Islam/Jihad serves as an excuse for murder, revenge, rage...even for someone who isn't a dedicated jihadist. (He just looks/acts like one.) Whether Muhammad was just a killer looking for revenge, an opportunist who wanted to get even with his wife, or whether the accused in this article, Jabbar, is schizophrenic, Islam feeds sick minds. At what point do we decide too many innocent lives have been lost because we ignored Islam as a motivator or cover? And to think that Muslims, even so called moderates, don't lie awake nights planning ways to take over the US, the EU and anywhere else they reside, is crazy. (It's called denial.)


144 posted on 06/18/2006 5:52:35 AM PDT by hershey
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To: white trash redneck

Yeah. Weird.


145 posted on 06/18/2006 5:52:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (As always, striving for accuracy.)
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To: white trash redneck

I didn't hear one word mentioned about a hate crime or act of terrorism?


146 posted on 06/18/2006 5:54:23 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: hershey
We're hoping they'll learn to 'coexist'.

It seems to be the nature of Western Civilivation to kick the can down the road until the problem is so horriffic that it can't be solved any other way than to butcher millions of people.

IMHO, ,the dhimmis who oppose the GWOT as "pre-emptive war" and give our enemy reason and hope to resist will have the blood of entire nations on their hands at some point in the future.

147 posted on 06/18/2006 5:56:39 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: edpc

Malvo and his mentor were petty thieves and murderers, sure, and in Islam they found legitimacy for killing. (They were doing Allah's work.) But their victims are just as dead as those who died on 9/11. If Islam disavowed all violence, things would get better.


148 posted on 06/18/2006 6:02:05 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey

See my private reply to you. I can't keep rehashing case facts for every new arrival to this discussion. You can either research the case and understand, or accept the herd mentality. Your choice. I no longer care.


149 posted on 06/18/2006 6:11:40 AM PDT by edpc
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To: white trash redneck
.....When are the American people going to say enough is enough.


1 posted on 06/17/2006 5:02:17 PM PDT by white trash redneck

Never. It is only going to get worse.

30 or 40 years ago incidents such as these would not have been tolerated. But as the older crowd that survived the depression, fought and won WWII and fought in Korea and Vietnam die out and are replaced by the more feminized and politically correct products of the new education system , incidents such as there will increase in both number and ferocity. The caterwauling and wailing and the "If we had not done [fill in blank]",and the "We must understand why they did this", will only increase.

White thrash redneck, the only way to stop this is to meet their violence against us with greater violence against them. Instead of us trembling in fear of them, make them tremble in fear of us.

If they want to live peacefully side by side with us, fine. But they must be shown that we will not be killed by them for their pleasure.

This is not a new concept. It is old as time. It is called self-defense ans self- preservation.
150 posted on 06/18/2006 6:24:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: All; edpc

What edpc has accually accomplished is to hijack the subject of this thread (ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst) and refocised it onto an actual American gone bad via islam......and at the same time introducing the false premise that John Muhammad doesn't represent the reality of islam in the most undeniable way.

the subject of this thread used to be
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst
ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst


151 posted on 06/18/2006 6:25:08 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Meanwhile, in today's Baltimore Sun:

Family says suspect in killing is mentally ill

Surprise surprise.

152 posted on 06/18/2006 6:39:16 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Heatseeker

yes, anything BUT:

ANOTHER mideastern mooslime murderer in our midst


153 posted on 06/18/2006 7:16:32 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: edpc; Fred Nerks

Your ignorance in this matter only fuels a fallacy.

You should've listened to your own advice. That ba$tard attended the same mosque as Assan Akbar. He was the same sob who fragged his own officers during the 2nd GW. THE SAME MOSQUE...no connection to islam my a$$. They churn out militant jihadi's at that terrorist training facility in Baton Rouge, but according to someone who sat in traffic...and....gasp...had to endure a specialized moment that made them an expert....there's no connection.

You're no authority at all.


154 posted on 06/18/2006 10:19:28 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: white trash redneck

bump for publicity


155 posted on 06/18/2006 10:49:40 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Very good! LOL


156 posted on 06/18/2006 11:00:20 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: nmh
"We are easy pickings."

Initially, this may be true. However, just as I think it would be impossible to repeat a 911 type takeover of an airliner, Americans WILL eventually defend themselves... emphatically! This is something that must be demonstrated to the world from time to time.
157 posted on 06/18/2006 11:03:22 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Conservatism is about promoting opportunity and Liberalism is about controlling outcome.)
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To: bayouranger; All
no connection to islam my a$$

I said there was no connection to jihad. When you can find your a$$ with both hands and a map, maybe you can show me where they claimed the victims were casualties in their holy war. Instead of being a proud jihadist killing infidels, Muhammad has said repeatedly he's not the shooter.

I can't continue to think for all of you who cannot grasp the simple truth in this matter: Muhammad and Malvo were petty criminals and cold-blooded murderers....not jihad warriors. Quit bugging me with your banal rants.

158 posted on 06/18/2006 11:12:32 AM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc
>>I said there was no connection to jihad.

Jihad and islam are 1. Once you peel your head out of your a$$, you'll see that the 2 are inseparable. One cannot exist without the other.

>>I can't continue to think for all of you

You cannot grasp the truth, nor can you see it due to the location of you cranium's position in your own colon by choice.
159 posted on 06/18/2006 12:02:51 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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