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Fired – For Love Without Marriage
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Posted on 06/17/2006 5:17:58 PM PDT by narses

AP) The owners of a roller skating rink have fired an 18-year-old woman they called one of their "Top 10" employees because she moved in with her boyfriend, violating a company ethics policy that prohibits "live-in relationships of an intimate nature."

"I loved my job and I didn't want to leave," Crystal Plotner told the Coeur d'Alene Press this week.

She said she was fired after casually telling her bosses, Skate Plaza owners Marvin and Pat Miller, that she planned to move in with her boyfriend in mid-May.

Before terminating her, Plotner said the Millers said she and her boyfriend should "check out their church." She declined.

"Even if I had gone to their church, I don't think it would have saved my job," said Plotner, who worked at Skate Plaza for three years and made $9.25 an hour. "They didn't want me to live with my boyfriend. They were pushing their religion on me and I was offended. I don't have the same religious beliefs as they do."

Pat Miller praised Plotner, saying that "In all the years that we've employed people, she was one of the Top 10. It was a sad day when she left because everybody loved her."

But Miller added, "We've had our (employee) handbook out for many years and it does say if you live in an immoral way with a member of the opposite sex or same sex, you will be terminated."

Miller said that in talking with Plotner, they were approaching the issue as employers, friends and Christians.

"Our advice is not to do this," Miller added. "It's fine and certainly her business that she did, but either we throw the handbook out or follow what's in it."

Pat Miller said they attempt to set a good example in the community because their business draws young people.

"If we owned a roofing company, it wouldn't have mattered," Pat Miller said. "We screen our music carefully. We have a 4-inch rule. We don't allow petting, necking or bad language. You have to decide, what kind of establishment do you want to be? We want parents to feel comfortable bringing their kids here."

She said it is the first time they have fired someone for living with a boyfriend or girlfriend, though they have rejected some applicants for that reason.

"When we first put it in we checked with our attorney, and he said we could do it as long as it's consistent."

Skate Plaza's moral and ethics policy also bans such behaviors as "public displays of promiscuous activities, homosexuality, intoxication, use of profanity, lewd behavior, use of illegal drugs, child abuse, spouse abuse, unlawful relationships, cross-dressing, stalking and nudity."

Leslie Goodard, director of Idaho's Human Rights Commission, said the policies don't appear to violate Idaho employment law.

"There is no statute that directly prohibits discrimination based on marital status, and sexual orientation is not protected," said Goodard.

But Jack Van Valkenburgh, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Boise, said Skate Plaza might be violating federal discrimination laws.

"It sounds to me as though they're pushing their religious view of what a proper living situation should be," he said.

For her part, Plotner said she's through with Skate Plaza.

"They're already judging me for how I live my life and it wouldn't be the same," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: cohabitation; employerrights; employmentlaw; freedomofcontract; playinghouse; rollerskating
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1 posted on 06/17/2006 5:17:59 PM PDT by narses
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2 posted on 06/17/2006 5:18:22 PM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses

The DUmmies are going NUTS over this btw.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 5:18:53 PM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses

I bet the DUmmies would approve if someone were fired for having a Pro-Life bumper sticker though.


4 posted on 06/17/2006 5:20:37 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: narses
But Miller added, "We've had our (employee) handbook out for many years and it does say if you live in an immoral way with a member of the opposite sex or same sex, you will be terminated."

What a jackass. I would not have gone to work there in the first place.

5 posted on 06/17/2006 5:20:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: narses

Tough love and a free country.


6 posted on 06/17/2006 5:23:41 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: narses

"They're already judging me for how I live my life and it wouldn't be the same," she said.

Technically, they aren't judging you. They are just following their handbook. God will judge you, though.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 5:24:12 PM PDT by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: narses
At 9.25 an hour finding a better paying job should be child's play. Why did she tell her employer that she was going to live with her boyfriend what business was it of theirs?
8 posted on 06/17/2006 5:24:55 PM PDT by CzarNicky (In the magical land of unicorns there's no need for clothes.)
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To: narses
But Jack Van Valkenburgh, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Boise, said Skate Plaza might be violating federal discrimination laws.

If Skate Plaza is violating federal discrimination laws, there's something wrong with the federal discrimination laws.

Of course I already suspect this.

9 posted on 06/17/2006 5:25:58 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: FormerLib

The DU people would be all for firing somebody if they had a Bush bumper sticker or were seen cheering at a pro-life rally. But if the person was a violent felon, was caught with crack, or was busted in a pedophile sting operation then no problem, they're being persecuted.


10 posted on 06/17/2006 5:26:24 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: narses
We have a 4-inch rule.

You have to be at least four inches to skate there?

11 posted on 06/17/2006 5:26:42 PM PDT by CzarNicky (In the magical land of unicorns there's no need for clothes.)
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To: Millicent_Hornswaggle
God will judge you, though.

I am not sure the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" really cares about cohabitation. I sure don't.

12 posted on 06/17/2006 5:27:05 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: narses

Did someone put a gun to her head and force her to take a job there? Their employment policy is right there in the handbook; she didn't have to seek employment there if she didn't agree.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 5:27:39 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: narses

Boo-hoo.


14 posted on 06/17/2006 5:29:10 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Tabi Katz

Agree totally.


15 posted on 06/17/2006 5:29:34 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: CzarNicky

Not really. Finding a job that pays $9.25 to teenagers is pretty rare. She could make that much with manual labor, but I don't see too many girls doing that. Maybe serving tables, but she'd have to have some experience.


16 posted on 06/17/2006 5:30:20 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: RadioAstronomer
I am not sure the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" really cares about cohabitation. I sure don't.

He would embrace her with His noodly appendages. Especially if she was really built.

17 posted on 06/17/2006 5:31:10 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

ROTFLMAO!


18 posted on 06/17/2006 5:32:23 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: CheyennePress
she's 18 technically a teenager but still an adult. the want ads are full of jobs that pay in that range especially with unemployment as low as it is now.
19 posted on 06/17/2006 5:36:12 PM PDT by CzarNicky (In the magical land of unicorns there's no need for clothes.)
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To: narses

This is bull$hit on so many levels it's not funny. Everyone who's in favor of this, are you ready to endorse being able to terminate someone if they don't go to the "correct" church? Because that's what you're signing up for.


20 posted on 06/17/2006 5:37:55 PM PDT by Taylor42
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