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America and Islam: Collision Inevitable?
http://www.nysun.com/article/34670 ^ | YOUSSEF IBRAHIM

Posted on 06/19/2006 2:38:22 AM PDT by croak

In its war on terror, America is unquestionably on a collision course with Islamic fundamentalism. The question is how far Islamic fundamentalism is from a collision with Islam itself, as interpreted today by the vast majority of ulemas, imams, theocratic schools, and many of its 1.1 billion followers.

Since the attacks of September 11, 2001, the world has learned a great deal about politicized Islam, which has spawned Islamic fundamentalism, jihad, and jihadis. And it has become clear that Islam needs a serious self-examination.

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1 posted on 06/19/2006 2:38:23 AM PDT by croak
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In its war on terror, America is unquestionably on a collision course with Islamic fundamentalism. The question is how far Islamic fundamentalism is from a collision with Islam itself, as interpreted today by the vast majority of ulemas, imams, theocratic schools, and many of its 1.1 billion followers.

Since the attacks of September 11, 2001, the world has learned a great deal about politicized Islam, which has spawned Islamic fundamentalism, jihad, and jihadis. And it has become clear that Islam needs a serious self-examination.

The rejection of others - which is a basic foundation of Islam that is built into Islamic texts and practices - makes it impossible to divorce the religion from the violent impulses it inspires.

Here are some important reasons why Muslims need to re-evaluate where religious practice ends and tyranny practiced in the name of Islam begins.

1.While Islam may appear a tolerant religion in many verses of the Koran, that tolerance is highly conditional on the submission of others to Muslims' collective will. The holy book is full of references to those who are not Muslims as "infidels." The Koran speaks in incredible detail of the need to do battle with infidels, to isolate them from the masses of believers, and to persist in efforts to convert them. Thus, as the Koran repeatedly states, the good practice of Islam cannot be limited to the worship of God or service to society. It must encompass spreading the faith, even at the edge of the sword.

2.Virtually all Muslims, including self-described moderates and liberals, believe what the Koran and the Hadith affirm: that Islam was God's final monotheist revelation. As such it supersedes, indeed cancels out, all previous revelations. It follows, then, that those who belong to any other faith are in need of conversion. In its much venerated and often quoted Sura 9:29, the Koran specifically defines those who are not Muslims and live under Muslim rule as "Dhimmis," people who under Islamic law "must surrender to the pacts contracted between non-Muslims and their Muslim conquerors." That concept should absolutely be revisited and revised by Muslim scholars if we are to believe they want peace. The burden of proof of tolerance falls heavily on the nation of Islam.

3.The aggressive demarcation of Muslims and infidels runs through all Islamic religious texts and speeches communicated to the faithful in millions of mosques across the globe. It is accompanied by much lament over the loss of Spain and chunks of Europe once part of the Muslim empire. The whole notion that Islam is an umma, or nation, unto itself that cuts across borders and comes before nationalities, bears the seeds of menace. Indeed, Muslim immigrants in Western nations are encouraged by their preachers to prevail in their societies and "spread the faith."

Islam as practiced today in virtually all Muslim countries does not fashion itself merely as a spiritual value, but as a conquering force with a need to dominate - not so far from the next step of Islamic fundamentalist theology, which motivates jihadis.

This overwhelmingly hostile orientation, relayed to the faithful by texts and preachers, has led to Islamic regimes such as Saudi Arabia, which is barricaded in deep isolation but uses its huge wealth to export reactionary Wahhabi ideologies to the world, setting up madrassas, mosques, and theological seminaries across the globe.

In Europe, America, Canada, and Australia, it has been easy for Muslim fundamentalists to take over Muslim immigrant communities because Islam promotes confrontation with others. Mosques, religious schools, and the imposition of the veil are tools of domination, not assimilation.

These issues must be dealt with. Much of the task falls to Muslim scholars in Muslim nations, and the work is imperative. Darkness, fear, and xenophobia are the understudy of terror.

The West does not have to bend backward. Indeed, it is time to push back - at the edge of the sword, if need be.


2 posted on 06/19/2006 2:39:36 AM PDT by croak
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To: croak

A superb article. Thanks.


3 posted on 06/19/2006 2:46:00 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: croak
The West does not have to bend backward. Indeed, it is time to push back - at the edge of the sword, if need be.

Nuke Mecca...

4 posted on 06/19/2006 2:53:06 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: croak

Where the hell has this guy been? America collided with islam almost 5 years ago. Does September 11th ring a bell?


5 posted on 06/19/2006 2:54:25 AM PDT by chadwimc
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To: croak

This is one of the clearest explanations of the principles of Islam that I've ever seen. Thanks for posting it.


6 posted on 06/19/2006 3:02:04 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: croak
And it has become clear that Islam needs a serious self-examination.

I believe it needs one of these.


7 posted on 06/19/2006 3:08:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: croak

Creating a "moderate Muslim" is a frugal project. They may be friendly but bottom line is there is no such thing.


8 posted on 06/19/2006 3:21:54 AM PDT by Dallas59
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" Mosques, religious schools, and the imposition of the veil are tools of domination, not assimilation "

In almost every respect we derive strength as a society from our tolerance of others. Why? Because others (cultures ) not only desired assimilation into the "Great American Experiment" they craved it.

Islam, however strives for one thing and thats blind domination. It's not healthy, for a prosperous or technologically evolving society. It is in fact a tumor that needs to be excised.

9 posted on 06/19/2006 3:34:35 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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"Where the hell has this guy been? America collided with islam almost 5 years ago. Does September 11th ring a bell?"

Yes it does.

So does 11/4/1979

"Hostages taken at US Embassy:"

" Iranian militants attack the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and take over 90 hostages. Many are soon released, but 54 remain in captivity for 444 days. The militants, praised by the Ayatollah, demand that the former Shah be turned over for trial; that his assests also be turned over; and that the United States apologize for crimes against the Iranian people.

10 posted on 06/19/2006 3:44:55 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
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NEWSFLASH:

(Begins)

"In its war on terror, America is unquestionably on a collision course with Islamic fundamentalism."

Guess what? The Western World collided with Islamic Fundamentalism many centuries ago. America first experienced the collision 200+ years ago, shortly after her birth as a Nation, on "...the Shores of Tripoli" -- the Marine Anthem commemorates it for Pete's Sake!!!

Can there be any doubt, after 200+ years??? Did it *really* take September 11 to clue everybody up?

Now that they have everybody's attention, for the removal of all doubt it is made quite plain: Islamic fundamentalism has never been America's friend. Or anybody else's, for that matter.


11 posted on 06/19/2006 3:52:09 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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"The question is how far Islamic fundamentalism is from a collision with Islam itself, as interpreted today by the vast majority of ulemas, imams, theocratic schools, and many of its 1.1 billion followers... And it has become clear that Islam needs a serious self-examination."

Not so clear to me or to them I suspect. They're winning, what's the problem? America's fight will eventually be with Eurabia and it'll be apocalyptic I'm guessing.


12 posted on 06/19/2006 3:52:22 AM PDT by bkepley
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2001? Try 1979.... think Iran/Hostages/Ayatollah Khomeini... think 444 days. Hell was released by the vacillations of Jimmy Carter... and an America weakened by its failure of commitment in Vietnam.

For almost thirty years... this mutated religion has spread its blood-thirsty creed throughout the world... and dispersed its followers into the west. The Achille Lauro... Beirut... Somalia... the USS Cole... the 1993 WTC bombing... are only a few. Now the Dem's want to ignore it and walk away again.

Cowards... pissants!

13 posted on 06/19/2006 3:52:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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The Blue Scarf Society of Nashville Presents: Concert for the Preservation of Western Culture

"The Blue Scarf Society is an international organization dedicated to the preservation of western civilization. It is designed to facilitate meetings between like minded people the world over."

14 posted on 06/19/2006 4:05:41 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: chadwimc

Waaay before 9-11. How about since Jefferson!


15 posted on 06/19/2006 4:24:37 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: croak
RECOMMENDED READING:

Terrorism In Early America
The U.S. Wages War Against The Barbary States To End International Blackmail and Terrorism
by Thomas Jewett

How the British Broke the Thugs of India
[How to Apply Those Methods Against Terrorists]
Sir William Henry Sleeman: 1788 - 1856
by Steve Bonta

KNOW YOUR ENEMY:
List of must read books exposing Islam


16 posted on 06/19/2006 4:57:07 AM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: croak

Funny, I thought we had already collided a while back.


17 posted on 06/19/2006 5:20:19 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: croak

>>America and Islam: Collision Inevitable?<<

In short: yes. They present the West with three choices: convert, submit or die. The US at present refuses to convert or submit. Progressive Europe seems to be in the process of submitting. They may try to pressure us into doing the same for the sake of "world peace".


18 posted on 06/19/2006 5:42:23 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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"Where the hell has this guy been? America collided with islam almost 5 years ago. Does September 11th ring a bell?"

This guy sees it a whole lot more clearly than our "leaders"


19 posted on 06/19/2006 6:16:26 AM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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To: croak
America and Islam: Collision Inevitable?

The headline is my only disagreement with this article.
The collision is already here, and has been here since 1979.

As for the "pushing" back, it is overdue by about the same length of time. In spades.

20 posted on 06/19/2006 6:19:21 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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