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Feminist Says Child Rearing not Worthy of Time and Talents of Intelligent Humans
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/20/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 06/20/2006 3:34:11 PM PDT by wagglebee

NEW YORK, June 20, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Linda Hirshman, a feminist US writer on cultural issues, has told the world why she thinks staying at home with the children is an occupation “not worthy of the full time and talents of intelligent and educated human beings.” She complains at length that the feminist movement, while making some gains in public life through legal activism, has largely failed in the one area where it counts most: the family.

She upbraids women who stay at home for failing the feminist agenda, saying, “They do not require a great intellect, they are not honored and they do not involve risks and the rewards that risk brings.”

Writing in the November 2005 edition of the American Prospect, Hirshman admitted that the real intention of the feminist movement was not “equality”, but to destroy what she calls “the unreconstructed family” of a husband and wife rearing children. She writes that the goal was to see as many women as possible abandoning family life for high-level professions and politics.

Hirshman a committed radical, was a member in the 1970s of the feminist lobby, the National Organization for Women (NOW), a donor to the pro-abortion political organization, EMILY’s List, and a professor of women’s studies.

But, she complains, the movement has “stalled”; while the “public world has changed…private lives have hardly budged.” Childrearing is still seen by both men and women to be the natural purview of women. She writes of her “shock” to discover that among those professional women whom she called the “logical heirs of feminism”, large numbers were leaving their careers to opt for childrearing.

“Marriage is essentially unchanged,” she laments. “The real glass ceiling is at home…Looking back, it seems obvious that the unreconstructed family was destined to re-emerge after the passage of feminism’s storm of social change.”

She writes, “this represents not a loss of present value but a loss of hope for the future -- a loss of hope that the role of women in society will continue to increase.”

Some of the women she interviewed confirmed her worst fears: they liked being mothers. One declined to be interviewed because she could not leave her activities with her daughters: “We’re all in here making fresh apple pie,” she said.

Another, an “an Ivy Leaguer with a master’s degree” described her at-home activities: “I take my [3-year-old] daughter to all the major museums. We go to little movement classes.”

The article ignited a blaze of online outrage from feminists and traditionalists alike. Bloggers and editorials in print and online editions of a number of magazines have run comments blasting Hirshman.

In an op-ed at the online edition of the political magazine, the Huffington Post, Ann Coulter wrote that Hirshman and those who think like her, are “expressing an intolerant world view that women who don't work are losers.”

“Hirshman isn't just expressing an opinion about what she thinks is best, she is saying that any woman who makes a choice different from what she espouses is unequivocally ‘wrong.’”

Coulter writes that feminism is losing its sway in public because it focuses on “problems that hardly exist…while spending precious little energy on issues that indisputably have a negative impact on women: pornography, sex trafficking.”

“If [feminists] spent a fraction of the time on these issues that they spend trying to get women to get their men to vacuum the living room, the world would be a better place.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childraising; feminazis; feminism; lindahirshman; moralabsolutes
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161 posted on 06/20/2006 10:11:39 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Irene Adler; Pox

Pox - if you want to know what Hitler thought about religion, please read the two links below. Then you'll be well-informed to discuss this topic. Right now you're just repeating some statements you've read, but have no understanding of Hitler's actual philosophy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/895696/posts
Hitler's Forgotten Library: The Man, His Books, and His Search for God
The Atlantic Monthly ^ | May 2003 | Timothy W. Ryback

http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
The Pink Swastika Online

Really, there's no need to be ill-informed and parrot silly talking points.


162 posted on 06/20/2006 10:16:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: mockingbyrd

Note my comment and links above.


163 posted on 06/20/2006 10:18:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Gondring

I agree with your post. I would add however that most of the poeple of Jesus time were religious or, at the very least, agnostic.


164 posted on 06/20/2006 11:29:46 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: wagglebee
a professor of women’s studies.

Yeah, "things for women to study so they don't have to study icky hard boy subjects like math and history."

I can see how raising healthy, well-adjusted children just pales in comparison to an achievement like being a professor of "women's studies."

Ignorant [coarse female-anatomical term, that mostly only feminists use in polite society, deleted].

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

165 posted on 06/20/2006 11:45:46 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (America has no native criminal class, apart from Congress -- Mark Twain)
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To: wagglebee

Well isn't this a big slap in the face. If this is the thinking of many, I now understand what is wrong with alot of the younger generation. Many of them are learning nothing at home and even less in school.


166 posted on 06/21/2006 12:05:46 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: taxed2death
That is one ssseeerrriiooouuusssllllyyyy callous broad.

Ang f'n ugly too. She just resents the fact that the family dog wouldn't even play with her.

167 posted on 06/21/2006 2:50:33 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: Tall_Texan
ROFLMAO!!!!!

That is funny!!!!

Reminds me of my late Stepfather. He used to say stuff like that just to spin up my Mom. It was funny because it worked. EVERY TIME.

168 posted on 06/21/2006 2:56:17 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: wagglebee
I am the head of an old-fashioned family. My wife has no job outside the home and doesn't want one. I work long and hard to support my family in secure comfort.

She is a fantastically good mom to our kids. When they were preschoolers, she was molding them into decent human beings, all day every day. They are in school now, and during the day she can spend a lot of time at the gym or lunching with her girlfriends, but she's always there to keep an eye on things when the kids get home.

I make enough money that she can have a maid come by weekly, lots of restaurant meals, yard service, dog groomer, etc. Since she's not tied down to a job, and I have lots of vacation, we can do nice trips several times a year.

She leads a very pleasant life, and our kids are growing up better than I could have ever expected. Her female relatives and friends definitely envy her lifestyle. Even some ball-breaking feminist career women we know have confessed that they would do the same if they could. Our whole family is happy and content. We can't imagine living any other way.

What possible attraction could this idiot feminist's Brave New World vision of family life hold for the average woman? Just a wild guess, but I would say nine out of ten women at a minimum would rather have my wife's life than live in the nutty professor's dystopia.

-ccm

169 posted on 06/21/2006 3:07:22 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: wagglebee

Speaks volumes about THEIR mothers.


170 posted on 06/21/2006 3:20:03 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: wagglebee

Women should be blocked from expressing themselves when they are under the influence of PMS.


171 posted on 06/21/2006 3:22:37 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: ccmay
CC you are truly blessed. Your children will grow up well adjusted and able to face what the world throws at them. Stay at home moms (and dads) help make this world a little better.

BTW, I love your tagline and agree with the sentiment.

172 posted on 06/21/2006 3:28:43 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: wagglebee

If I recall correctly, Ms. Hirshman was #77 in Bernard Goldberg's book about 100 people who are screwing up America. Good call, Mr. Goldberg.


173 posted on 06/21/2006 3:48:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: wagglebee

I believe it was Swedish progressives who dreamed up this whole travesty, around 1900. Let me see if I can explain the thinking in a brief paragraph or two.

The progressives decided that stay-at-home mothers were a wasted labor resource. They didn't contribute their share to the common pot. That's a bad thing under socialism because everybody gets paid out of the common pot. If those lazy women stay at home with their children and don't work, there's not as much in the pot for others. So women have to be driven out of their homes and into the labor force. The government is to do that with tax policies, laws, abortion, day care for children, and propaganda.

Socialism turns everyone into a busybody! What you produce (earn) is everyone else's business. If you aren't pulling your load, shame on you! Socialism also turns everyone into a slave. Everyone works! The common pot demands it! And finally -- as we see in our own Death Culture movement today -- the logic of socialism is to kill the weaker 50% of the population. They aren't doing their fair share. They may even be completely "useless eaters" consuming resources but putting nothing into the pot. The Death Cult answer is to abort unborn babies and to kill off the weak, the elderly and the disabled as fast as possible; though they fudge the language (reproductive rights, choice, non-voluntary euthanasia, assisted suicide, futile care, and so on).

NONE of this gruesome policy applies to a free society. With free markets, nobody is a slave to the common pot.


174 posted on 06/21/2006 4:01:31 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: little jeremiah
I've been over that material and more, yet it does nothing but buttress my point. I never said he was a devout RC, nor did I say that he was a firm believer in organized religion. In his own psychotic way, he believed he was doing the lords work and his writings have shown that, IMO.

From your source thread here on FR:

Langer wrote, A survey of all the evidence forces us to conclude that Hitler believes himself destined to become an Immortal Hitler, chosen by God to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social order for the world.

I've also read about the homosexual tendencies verging on necrophilia of the SS in particular, and some of the, shall we say "interesting", indulgences they were said to have taken.

"Religious" or not, those people certainly were without morals, IMO.

In the end, I would surmise that each will have to come to their own conclusion using what facts are given from those in the period. Perhaps this example was insufficient.

A better example then would be Jim Jones. A punk, through and through, IMO. Deeply religious convictions and corrupt to the bone. All those poor people wasted for no reason. Where is the morality in that situation? I see none.
175 posted on 06/21/2006 5:41:35 AM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: karnage
Wonder who raised this waste of precious natural resources?

My thoughts exactly.
176 posted on 06/21/2006 5:45:24 AM PDT by Barney59 ("Time wounds all heels.")
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To: wagglebee

a rat is a dog is a pig is a feminist (with profound apologies to rats, dogs and pigs).


177 posted on 06/21/2006 5:46:56 AM PDT by martin gibson (I know not what course others may take, but as for myself, give me Ralph Stanley or give me death!)
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To: wagglebee
She upbraids women who stay at home for failing the feminist agenda, saying, “They do not require a great intellect, they are not honored and they do not involve risks and the rewards that risk brings.”

Sorry, honey, but raising children is the riskiest thing anyone ever does !

You pour your whole heart and soul into it, at great personal cost to yourself; and you have no idea how it will all turn out.

It's called LOVE; not that you'd know anything about it.

178 posted on 06/21/2006 5:51:32 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: CobaltBlue

Guess again. My response was to Hirshman, the writer of the article not the poster. The whole big lie of feminism was that supposedly women should have choices. The writer makes it clear that was not the true intent and that the only choice she thinks women should make is to work outside the home. That is her view as stated in her own words, certainly not mine.


179 posted on 06/21/2006 6:33:13 AM PDT by D1X1E (No, I'm not PC. What about it?)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
A small tidbit MZZZZZZZZZ. Hirshman forgets: I raised 3 conservative kids. How many liberal kids did she abort, I wonder? Thinking themselves wise, they became fools. Without remorse and learning nothing, they prattle on. Hoping to convince the world they are right, while the evidence speaks for itself. I have no pity for them. none.

Let me ask any guy out there - would you hop into the sack with this broad, even on a bet?

Therein lies the answer to small voice's question...

CA....

180 posted on 06/21/2006 7:35:01 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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