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Booby-Trapped Bodies of 2 GIs Recovered(Bodies mutilated)
The Washington Times ^ | Jun 20, 7:46 PM EDT | KIM GAMEL

Posted on 06/20/2006 5:40:45 PM PDT by kellynla

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- The U.S. military recovered the bodies Tuesday of two missing soldiers from an area it said was rigged with explosives. An Iraqi official said the Americans were tortured and killed in a "barbaric" way.

An insurgent group claimed the new leader of al-Qaida in Iraq executed the men personally, but it offered no evidence. The U.S. military did not confirm whether the soldiers died from wounds suffered in an attack Friday or were kidnapped and later killed.

The discovery of the bodies dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts to seize the momentum against al-Qaida in Iraq after killing its leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in a June 7 airstrike. Violence was unabated Tuesday, with at least 18 people killed in attacks nationwide, including a suicide bombing of a home for the elderly in the southern city of Basra.

Coalition forces spotted the American soldiers' bodies late Monday, three days after the men disappeared following an attack on their checkpoint south of the capital, the military said. But troops delayed retrieving the remains until an explosives team cleared the area after an Iraqi civilian warned them to be alert for explosive devices.

"Coalition forces had to carefully maneuver their way through numerous improvised explosive devices leading up to and around the site," the military said in a statement. "Insurgents attempting to inflict additional casualties had placed IEDs around the bodies."

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said the bodies were found together in the vicinity of an electrical plant, which would be just a few miles from where the initial attack took place near the town of Youssifiyah in the volatile Sunni Triangle south of Baghdad.

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This is what you get when you try to fight a "politically correct" war.

Release the "Pendleton Eight!"

Semper Fi, Kelly

1 posted on 06/20/2006 5:40:48 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
The discovery of the bodies dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts to seize the momentum against al-Qaida in Iraq after killing its leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in a June 7 airstrike.

Yeah, I imagine it's going to be like the setback dealt to American forces in the Ardennes in late 1944, when they discovered the massacre at Malmedy.

There's going to be fewer prisoners for a while...

2 posted on 06/20/2006 5:43:23 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: kellynla
Will MSM, the democrats and the peace groups be outraged at the inhumane treatment of our finest?
3 posted on 06/20/2006 5:45:24 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: kellynla
From the article: The discovery of the bodies dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts to seize the momentum against al-Qaida in Iraq after killing its leader

Bull Friggin' s&it this is a set back !!!

This only makes our devil dogs that much meaner - if they too are let off the leash (as are the Pendleton 8)

4 posted on 06/20/2006 5:45:43 PM PDT by llevrok (The next "greatest generation" is now.)
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To: kellynla

I hope this means we can really kick butt now!


5 posted on 06/20/2006 5:46:33 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: kellynla
It Sickens Me!!

It's very reminiscent of Vietnam as our senior military leaders and political class try to mollify the New york Times; leftist politicians; and sundry anti-American leftists here and abroad by playing patty-cake with Islamofascists. The reality is that these anit-American forces, including the NY Slime, hate America and everything she stands for; hate the American military; hate capitalism; and, hate freedom -- in that order. As for the terrorists, they actually admire them and hope for their eventual victory. There's no placating these folks, it's a fool's errand and attempts to do so simply play into the hands of the more dangerous enemy.

It's time to take the gloves off -- declare marshall law; demand that the Iraqi Government and citizenry declare their support to our mutual objectives and deal with those that don't so declare with firm, deadly resolve. The mass of the American public will support this -- they understand the dangers of terrorism and don't countenance "patty-cake" as well as they do tough justice. They have little in common with Pinch Sultsberger and don't really care what he editorializes.

If the President wants to improve his ratings -- all he needs to do is start getting tough with this war! Americans love a winner and can't stand wusses. Honor these brave young men and get the lead out W!!
6 posted on 06/20/2006 5:47:09 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: kellynla
Release the "Pendleton Eight!"

BTW - Lock up that wacko Murtha!

7 posted on 06/20/2006 5:47:33 PM PDT by llevrok (The next "greatest generation" is now.)
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To: kellynla; TomasUSMC
A Freeper has been saying for MONTHS --- "Fight like WWII, end like WWII"

"Fight like Vietnam, end like Vietnam"...

Time to take the gloves off, and devastate large areas of the Sunni Triangle of Death....

Let the death be THEIRS...
Deliver death to the cult of death on a large enough scale to satisfy their appetite.....

Semper Fi

8 posted on 06/20/2006 5:48:15 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ncountylee

Laura Ingraham was just on Oreilley -- she said she went to Amnesty International's web site just before coming on the air. NOT A SINGLE WORD FROM THEM ABOUT THESE HORRENDOUS MURDERS OF OUR TROOPS. I also note, that the UN hasn't made a statement condeming the terrorists, in fact, I doubt anyone in the DNC or democrat party has either. Other than to blame the Bush administration for the torturous murders. I'm beyond disgusted.


9 posted on 06/20/2006 5:48:25 PM PDT by Laverne
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To: kellynla

I have never, ever even heard of an enemy like this one.


10 posted on 06/20/2006 5:49:36 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: kellynla
This is what you get when you try to fight a "politically correct" war.

Exactly. The troops can't even defend themselves.

11 posted on 06/20/2006 5:49:36 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: kellynla
The discovery of the bodies dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts......

That is Bravo Sierra.

The troops are incredible!

I hate the press.

12 posted on 06/20/2006 5:50:24 PM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: SandRat

ping


13 posted on 06/20/2006 5:50:40 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

New American Policy:

SSS.

Or maybe SMSS.

Murtha be damned, Specter be damned, PMSNBCCNNCBSABC be damned.

Gloves OFF.


14 posted on 06/20/2006 5:52:12 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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To: kellynla

Why do they need DNA testing?


15 posted on 06/20/2006 5:52:16 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

their faces are not recognizeable.


16 posted on 06/20/2006 5:53:05 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: MonroeDNA

M is for mutilate. Pig skin, panties, headless.


17 posted on 06/20/2006 5:53:46 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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To: kellynla

Its time to go Roman on them.


18 posted on 06/20/2006 5:54:43 PM PDT by 359Henrie
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To: kellynla

It's past time for the ROE to be changed and for SOG's to be given free reign to hunt and kill every last jihadist bastard they can find.


19 posted on 06/20/2006 5:55:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: river rat; Cannoneer No. 4; SLB; Darksheare

At the risk of being redundant, I am posting my response to a similar thread. We should be instructed by the lessons of history. Rudyard Kipling knew those lessons well. Hear his words:

The Grave of the Hundred Head
There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.

A Snider squibbed in the jungle,
Somebody laughed and fled,
And the men of the First Shikaris
Picked up their Subaltern dead,
With a big blue mark in his forehead
And the back blown out of his head.

Subadar Prag Tewarri,
Jemadar Hira Lal,
Took command of the party,
Twenty rifles in all,
Marched them down to the river
As the day was beginning to fall.

They buried the boy by the river,
A blanket over his face --
They wept for their dead Lieutenant,
The men of an alien race --
They made a samadh in his honor,
A mark for his resting-place.

For they swore by the Holy Water,
They swore by the salt they ate,
That the soul of Lieutenant Eshmitt Sahib
Should go to his God in state,
With fifty file of Burmans
To open him Heaven's gate.

The men of the First Shikaris
Marched till the break of day,
Till they came to the rebel village,
The village of Pabengmay --
A jingal covered the clearing,
Calthrops hampered the way.

Subadar Prag Tewarri,
Bidding them load with ball,
Halted a dozen rifles
Under the village wall;
Sent out a flanking-party
With Jemadar Hira Lal.

The men of the First Shikaris
Shouted and smote and slew,
Turning the grinning jingal
On to the howling crew.
The Jemadar's flanking-party
Butchered the folk who flew.

Long was the morn of slaughter,
Long was the list of slain,
Five score heads were taken,
Five score heads and twain;
And the men of the First Shickaris
Went back to their grave again,

Each man bearing a basket
Red as his palms that day,
Red as the blazing village --
The village of Pabengmay,
And the "drip-drip-drip" from the baskets
Reddened the grass by the way.

They made a pile of their trophies
High as a tall man's chin,
Head upon head distorted,
Set in a sightless grin,
Anger and pain and terror
Stamped on the smoke-scorched skin.

Subadar Prag Tewarri
Put the head of the Boh
On the top of the mound of triumph,
The head of his son below --
With the sword and the peacock-banner
That the world might behold and know.

Thus the samadh was perfect,
Thus was the lesson plain
Of the wrath of the First Shikaris --
The price of a white man slain;
And the men of the First Shikaris
Went back into camp again.

Then a silence came to the river,
A hush fell over the shore,
And Bohs that were brave departed,
And Sniders squibbed no more;
For the Burmans said
That a white man's head
Must be paid for with heads five-score.

There's a widow in sleepy Chester
Who weeps for her only son;
There's a grave on the Pabeng River,
A grave that the Burmans shun;
And there's Subadar Prag Tewarri
Who tells how the work was done.


20 posted on 06/20/2006 5:55:16 PM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Al Qaida's Best Friends)
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To: bnelson44

"Why do they need DNA testing?"

because maybe their faces are mutilated
I had to go to Da Nang in 1969 to identify a fellow Marine who was in the morgue.
His face was blown off.
"you want me to identify this Marine?"
I couldn't.


21 posted on 06/20/2006 5:55:54 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: an amused spectator
The problem is that during WWII, when the need to retaliate for was felt by our soldiers, it was simply done, and the press didn't proceed to have a field day with the results.

Like it or not, WWII GIs shot a surrendered Germans who they believed deserved it, and that was that. The ones who surrendered and survived were treated well as POWs, and that encouraged those still fighting to surrender.

There was no policy that advocated this sort of rough combat justice, but there was not a press microscope focused on our fighting men, either. We could learn some lessons from the way that was dealt with.
22 posted on 06/20/2006 5:56:44 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: kellynla
"The director of the Iraqi Defense Ministry's operation room, Maj. Gen. Abdul-Aziz Mohammed, said the bodies showed signs of having been tortured. "With great regret, they were killed in a barbaric way," he said."

Combined with the fact that they had to use DNA testing, my guess is that they were beheaded, and the heads not found.

I am so angry I cannot see straight.

23 posted on 06/20/2006 5:57:04 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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To: kellynla

If they need DNA testing, how do they know these are our servicemen? Could these two bodies be a ruse to take the heat off while they spirit our two guys out of the area?


24 posted on 06/20/2006 5:57:27 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: kellynla

I'm waiting for the outcry from all those human rights, humane treatment, Red Cross types. Hearing none, they can all go straight to h-ll. No more prosecutions for soldiers.marines doing their jobs in this war. I'm reading Warlord right now.
You can bet there will be no more Americans even thinking about being captured. Shoot first....and last.


25 posted on 06/20/2006 5:59:24 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: kellynla

"dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts to seize the momentum"

The AP is full of it. The deaths of two soldiers will not change the momentum of the war. The AP reporter is trying to change the momentum.


26 posted on 06/20/2006 6:00:38 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: kellynla
This is what you get when you try to fight a "politically correct" war.

Actually, it's simply war. Are you still expecting parades?

27 posted on 06/20/2006 6:01:41 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: bnelson44
I have never, ever even heard of an enemy like this one.

Me either. In WWII the Democrats and liberals were on our side!

28 posted on 06/20/2006 6:02:08 PM PDT by llevrok (The next "greatest generation" is now.)
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To: bnelson44

Then you know nothing of the Japanese during WW 2.


29 posted on 06/20/2006 6:02:49 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Old Sarge; patriciaruth; proud_yank; GMMAC

Ping!


30 posted on 06/20/2006 6:04:11 PM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: kellynla
An insurgent group claimed the new leader of al-Qaida in Iraq executed the men personally....

Since the POS so readily admits to doing the killing, WHEN, not if, he is caught, we should make sure he is taken alive and put in a spider hole for about 40 years.

Feed once a day spicy pork rinds only, and have a live feed of Winnie the pooh show with piglet playing 24/7/365

31 posted on 06/20/2006 6:04:37 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: kellynla

I am sick and tired of the American Left, the Democratic Party, and most of the news media. They can all shut up, as far as I'm concerned. They're totally wrong.


32 posted on 06/20/2006 6:05:54 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: OldFriend

Yes, I know about the Japs, but they kept POW camps, they din't immediately mutilate all prisoners and they didn't drive trucks into civilian marketplaces for the purpose of blowing them up. And they didn't kidnap bakers.


33 posted on 06/20/2006 6:06:34 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: llevrok
Me either. In WWII the Democrats and liberals were on our side!

The horrifying truth

34 posted on 06/20/2006 6:07:22 PM PDT by apackof2 (That Girl is a Cowboy)
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To: bnelson44
I have never, ever even heard of an enemy like this one.

When in our history was the last time we fought an enemy this brutal? Somalia I guess, but before then?

Also, how did these soldiers come to be caught in such a vulnerable position? I have to think some commander is catching some hell.

35 posted on 06/20/2006 6:07:41 PM PDT by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: popdonnelly
"dealt a new setback to U.S. efforts to seize the momentum"

The AP is full of it. The deaths of two soldiers will not change the momentum of the war. The AP reporter is trying to change the momentum.


Right. I read down to this point, looked up to double-check that it was from the Washington Times, thought to myself that this had to be an AP article, looked up again and then saw the (AP). Despicable scum (the terrorists AND the AP "reporter").
36 posted on 06/20/2006 6:08:07 PM PDT by TheCornerOffice
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To: lawnguy
Also, how did these soldiers come to be caught in such a vulnerable position? I have to think some commander is catching some hell.

That is easy, the platoon split up. Never a good idea. You will bet that will not happen again.

37 posted on 06/20/2006 6:09:02 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: kellynla

I'm certain "Human Rights Watch" is already on this and the guilty will be severely criticized for their actions. /s

*Crickets Chirping*


38 posted on 06/20/2006 6:09:11 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: M1911A1
It wasn't that press didn't have a field day during World War II. There was strict military censorship of the press.

Skip to the middle of Profiling, Internment, Dissent and a Declaration of War to see what happens when we function under World War II rules.

39 posted on 06/20/2006 6:10:39 PM PDT by Publius
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To: bnelson44
Have you ever read...The Rape of Nanking?

Did you ever hear of the Bataan Death March

Did you ever watch the first President Bush discuss what happened to the prisoners captured by the Japanese.

The nazi barbarism was easily equal to the barbarism of the japanese.

40 posted on 06/20/2006 6:10:48 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: an amused spectator

"There's going to be fewer prisoners for a while..."

I sure hope so.


41 posted on 06/20/2006 6:11:34 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: bnelson44
Your memory is short. The Islamofascists are cruel and fanatical. So were the Japanese and the Nazis. Men in the Pacific war didn't surrender, they fought to the death and no quarter was given or asked. The Nazis committed atrocities at an industrial pace.

Don't lose sight of the fact that our fathers and grandfathers faced the same sort of evil, and they triumphed.
42 posted on 06/20/2006 6:11:43 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: kellynla

a suicide bombing of a home for the elderly in the southern city of Basra.


43 posted on 06/20/2006 6:12:40 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: Gunslingr3

Have you ever been in combat?


44 posted on 06/20/2006 6:13:23 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: M1911A1

"...and that encouraged those still fighting to surrender."

We won't see that in this war. This enemy is crazier than a sh*thouse rat.

I'm ready to release The Hounds of Hell...but I was ready to do that three years ago. *SHRUG*


45 posted on 06/20/2006 6:17:10 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: MrCruncher

Yea, this enemy is just like the Germans and Japs... NOT!


46 posted on 06/20/2006 6:17:43 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: popdonnelly

The AP reporter in question :

By KIM GAMEL. BAGHDAD, Iraq Jun 2, 2006 (AP)— A third set of allegations that US troops have deliberately killed civilians is fueling a furor in Iraq and ...

Furor grows over civilian deaths in Iraq - KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer Fri Jun 2, 3:48 PM ET. BAGHDAD, Iraq - A third set of allegations that US troops have deliberately killed civilians

Pregnant woman, her cousin, dead in coalition shooting
BAGHDAD, Iraq -- U.S. forces killed two Iraqi women -- one of them about to give birth -- when the troops shot at a car that failed to stop at an observation ...
5/31/06 by Kim Gamel Associated Press ·



47 posted on 06/20/2006 6:18:44 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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To: MrCruncher

Kim seems to have an agenda.


48 posted on 06/20/2006 6:21:16 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: llevrok
Release the "Pendleton Eight!"

Reminds me of an old movie; "Breaker Morant". About the Boar war. The British asked its troops to fight an insurgency and then hung them out to dry for a political settlement.

So far I have not heard one Dem (I.E. socialist POS) call for condemnation of the terrorists. Cindy isn't holding a vigil for the troops and condemning the terrorists. Code Pink isn't condemning it either. Howard Dean isn't. Murtha, Schumer, Pelosi, none of them have so far. But maybe I am just behind in the news. Maybe by the 2200 hr news I will see where all the Dems got together to decry this atrocity and stand behind the troops and the mission.

But then again, maybe I don't have to stay up late. Ah, heck. Just read the tag line.
49 posted on 06/20/2006 6:21:54 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: MizSterious

The Associated Press has a clear anti-US agenda.

Kim is a cog in the machine.


50 posted on 06/20/2006 6:22:55 PM PDT by MrCruncher
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