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Whither Frodo and Jesus?
Christianity Today ^ | 06/20/06 | Mark Moring

Posted on 06/21/2006 6:18:30 AM PDT by rhema

How could the American Film Institute have missed The Return of the King when picking its list of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time? And not a single movie about Jesus? What's up with THAT?

Last week, the American Film Institute posted its list of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time. It's a good list, especially with It's a Wonderful Life and To Kill a Mockingbird occupying the top two spots. Rocky, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, and Breaking Away are all in the top 10. Very nice.

But like all such lists, it's certainly open to criticism. My first gripe is specific enough: Where in the world is The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King? If that's not one of the 100 Most Inspiring Films of All Time, then I'll be a hobbit's uncle.

If Gandalf doesn't inspire, then who does?

At first I thought the omission was because the film isn't "American." It was primarily made in New Zealand by a Kiwi director (Peter Jackson), and the AFI criteria state that qualifying films must have "significant creative and/or production elements from the United States." But then I checked the list of 300 nominees from which the AFI culled its winners, and the first LOTR film, The Fellowship of the Ring, is a nominee (though it didn't make the top 100).

So, evidently, the LOTR films were eligible after all—but The Return of the King didn't even make the list of nominees. So, the AFI doesn't even count it as one of the three hundred most inspiring films in history!

How could they have missed it?

Were they not inspired when Gandalf comforts a frightened Pippin during the siege of Minas Tirith, telling the young hobbit about a glorious heaven that

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To: Dixie Yooper
This movie is very short on religion of any kind and full of evil, witchcraft and demons.

There is no witchcraft in LOTR, though there is evil and there are demonic forces. LOTR does not glorify those things, and shows the stuggle to defeat them, while showing that some succumb to the evil. Doesn't the Bible teach us how to struggle against evil, but also show that some will not be able to fight evil, but will give over to it?

41 posted on 06/21/2006 8:47:13 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HairOfTheDog

""Oh Shane, go in that bar alone and fight our battles for us while we wait out here" townspeople."

High Noon probably doesn't rate too high on your list either. Open Range was a western where the townspeople got into the action.


42 posted on 06/21/2006 8:47:29 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper
I did not leave the theater inspired that night. The guy who was trying to inspire everyone ended up getting a lobotomy then was suffocated and it took place in a mental ward.

Well now, the story of The Guy who inspired a lot of people and got beat up and nailed to a tree for His efforts seems to have stood the test of time...

Are you a Yooper as in Iron Mountain and all that, by the way?

43 posted on 06/21/2006 8:48:48 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Dixie Yooper

Heh... Yes, you'd be right :~)


44 posted on 06/21/2006 8:49:44 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: rhema

They also left out: Lassie Come Home (1943) and I Remember Mama (1948). Serpico??? Inspiring???


45 posted on 06/21/2006 8:52:13 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: SuziQ
"There is no witchcraft in LOTR"

Wizard or witch, magic or witchcraft. There really is no difference unless your trying to put down Harry Potter in favor of LOTR to your congregation. Neither movie belongs in the church, or deserves a positive article written about it in a Christian magazine.

They are however great movies that do inspire. Just not in a religious way.
46 posted on 06/21/2006 8:56:30 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
"Are you a Yooper as in Iron Mountain and all that, by the way?"

Yes I am, but from Iron River.
I won't compare Jack Nicholson with Christ.
47 posted on 06/21/2006 9:02:16 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Another omission: SIGNS

Inspiring? Hmm...I watched it last weekend. I judged it to be an entertaining sci-fi story. Decently acted and poorly directed, especially the last scene. I wasn't particularly inspired by it. Other Mel Gibson films are much more inspiring, that's for sure. But, hey, if you find it inspiring then good for you!

48 posted on 06/21/2006 9:02:23 AM PDT by Ignatz (quoting Freeper cyborg: "The lay teachers could not make hands of some girls.")
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To: Dixie Yooper
I think it's a totally legit comparison. There's a reason the Christ figure is such a common theme in all of art; plus there's the whole point of all us being created in His image. And saving and inspiring others, even if it's only the one Indian, is the message.

Beautiful country up where you're from, but ya hardly need a flat-lander like me to tell ya that...

49 posted on 06/21/2006 9:12:41 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: rhema

I agree and thank you!!!


50 posted on 06/21/2006 9:14:53 AM PDT by Tolkien (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Ignatz
I thought it was inspiring that a man (a pastor) whose faith had been destroyed by tragedy, had it restored and was able to return to his church in the end.

People break down into two groups when the experience something lucky. Group number one sees it as more than luck, more than coincidence. They see it as a sign, evidence, that there is someone up there, watching out for them. Group number two sees it as just pure luck. Just a happy turn of chance. I'm sure the people in Group number two are looking at those fourteen lights in a very suspicious way. For them, the situation is fifty-fifty. Could be bad, could be good. But deep down, they feel that whatever happens, they're on their own. And that fills them with fear. Yeah, there are those people. But there's a whole lot of people in the Group number one. When they see those fourteen lights, they're looking at a miracle. And deep down, they feel that whatever's going to happen, there will be someone there to help them. And that fills them with hope. See what you have to ask yourself is what kind of person are you? Are you the kind that sees signs, sees miracles? Or do you believe that people just get lucky? Or, look at the question this way: Is it possible that there are no coincidences?

The movie was not about aliens, IMHO. The movies of Mel's that you maybe like better have far too much blood and gore for me to like them.

51 posted on 06/21/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: P8riot
"Thelma and Louise" and "Breaking Away"? You've got to be kidding. I'm with you on the first one, but what's not to love about "Breaking Away?" It's a classic underdog story (as are most on the list).
52 posted on 06/21/2006 9:23:06 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: rhema

Cyber bruises don't show, and they heal instantaneously...unless you're messed up in the head like some.


53 posted on 06/21/2006 9:36:44 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: ReignOfError

Oh, don't get me wrong. I liked it, but I don't regard it as "inspiring."


54 posted on 06/21/2006 11:37:41 AM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Open Range was a western where the townspeople got into the action.

We love that movie!! It is a great film about redemption.

55 posted on 06/21/2006 3:07:27 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Dixie Yooper

I think there are positive messages in BOTH the Harry Potter books and LOTR. Both are about fighting evil, and helping others to not fall into evil ways. No, they aren't religious, but they are inspirational.


56 posted on 06/21/2006 3:09:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Dixie Yooper
Wizard or witch, magic or witchcraft. There really is no difference unless your trying to put down Harry Potter in favor of LOTR to your congregation. Neither movie belongs in the church, or deserves a positive article written about it in a Christian magazine.

The message: Evil exists, and it is defeated by people who live the virtues of courage and loyalty. It isn't scripture, but it is a jumping off point for a message about the importance of virtue, which has an easy segue to a more explicitly religious message.

I've written before that there's a comparison to be drawn between To Kill a Mockingbird and Lord of the Rings. Atticus Finch and Samwise Gangee are heroes because of a clear moral vision and the determination to see it through. You and I can't decide to become Superman or Spiderman, but we can decide to be Atticus or Sam.

It's a Wonderful Life is inspiring for a different reason, and I can't argue with its #1 ranking. The movie came out after a decade of depression and a half-decade of war, when a lot of folks weren't where they expected to be at that point in life.

The message of the movie was that however dark things seem, however low you feel, there are angels above and friends on Earth who have your back. It's a good message for anyone at any time, but especially for its own time.

57 posted on 06/21/2006 8:09:45 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError; SuziQ
"The message of the movie was that however dark things seem, however low you feel, there are angels above and friends on Earth who have your back. It's a good message for anyone at any time, but especially for its own time"

What you refer as "the message of the movie" is really no more than a formula for making a story entertaining to the audience. Back in 1973 when I read The Hobbit, I became immersed in it so much that I literally didn't put the book down until I finished it, 8 hours later. When I got my hands on Lord of the Rings I got half way through the first book then realized that the author was overly obsessed with fantasy. He even created an entirely new language for the elves. I never read the rest it. Although the movies are incredible and very entertaining, they should not be confused with religion any more than Star Wars' "the force - microbes in the blood stream that have a symbiotic relationship with it's host".
This last weekend I took my kids to see Cars which if you haven't seen it, is also incredible and has used a very clever formula to pull the audience into the story, which I must admit left me feeling inspired to make new friends, keep old ones and listen.
58 posted on 06/22/2006 7:25:15 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Tolkien made it clear that LOTR wasn't religious allegory. He purposely created a new world, with a new language. He was a philologist, after all. By doing so, he created an entirely new genre of storytelling, the fantasy world. I don't look to LOTR for religious meaning, though some can be found; I just enjoy the stories.

It took me a while to warm up to them, though. I was given the trilogy in 1968, when it was first published in paperback in the US. I was 15, and wasn't into fantasy; I was more into gothic romances and spy novels, and interesting combo. Hubby did a read-aloud of the books with our older two sons, when they were pre-teens, and I didn't listen in then, either. It wasn't until our younger two kids were pre-teens and the first movie was about to be released that I joined in the read-aloud and realized that I actually liked the books. I'm still not a big fantasy story fan, but Tolkien's stories were fantasy with a medieval flair that I enjoyed.

59 posted on 06/22/2006 8:00:28 AM PDT by SuziQ
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