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Our Mother Jesus . . . a sermon by US church's new head
London Times ^ | 6/22/06 | staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by pissant

The Episcopalians are in disarray as their primate shows her feminist credentials

THE Episcopal Church in America descended into chaos last night after leading bishops on both the liberal and conservative wings dissassociated themselves from a last-gasp effort to avert a schism with the worldwide Anglican Communion.

Just hours after its newly elected woman head preached a sermon in praise of “our mother Jesus”, the Episcopal Church agreed to “exercise restraint” in appointing any more gay bishops after a tense day of debate and argument.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, welcomed the resolution with gratitude and what appeared to be relief, but he also made clear his reservations.

He welcomed the “exceptional seriousness” with which the Episcopal Church had treated the calls for it to repent and to impose moratoriums on same-sex blessings and the consecration of any more gay bishops. He said that actions by bishops and laity of the Episcopal Church yesterday showed “how strong is their concern to seek reconciliation and conversation with the rest of the Communion.”

But he continued: “It is not yet clear how far the resolutions passed this week and today represent the adoption by the Episcopal Church of all the proposals set out in the Windsor report. The wider Communion will therefore need to reflect carefully on the significance of what has been decided before we respond more fully.”

But this fragile consensus was immediately shattered by leading bishops on both sides.

Thirty liberal bishops issued a statement of dissent, saying that they could not abide by the new resolution. Bishop John Chane of Washington, a prominent church liberal who officiates at the National Cathedral in American capital, said that he would not agree to block the ordination of any gay bishop. “I will defy the resolution by consenting after prayer and careful consideration to any person duly elected by a diocese in this church,” he said.

On the other side, five conservative bishops accused the General Convention of “misleading the rest of the Communion by giving a false perception that they intend actually to comply with the recommendations of the Windsor Report”. They continued: “We therefore disassociate ourselves from those acts of this Convention that do not fully comply with the Windsor Report.”

They said that they repudiated the actions of the convention and committed themselves to providing pastoral care to worshippers and parishes on the orthodox wing, so placing themselves also in potential breach of Windsor because this would entail crossing diocesan and parochial boundaries.

The resolution was agreed after panicked bishops summoned the rare joint session of the whole Church at its three-yearly convention. The session was held the day after the 800-strong House of Deputies resoundingly rejected the Anglican hierarchy’s demand for a moratorium on the consecration of gay bishops.

Delegates, many wearing pink “It’s a girl” badges in celebration of the Right Rev Katharine Schori’s election as the new presiding bishop, were warned by the current primate of the Episcopal Church, Frank Griswold, that if they did not at least make an attempt to comply with demands for a moratorium on the consecration of any more gay bishops, they would risk exclusion from key bodies of the Anglican Church.

A proposal put forward by Bishop Griswold committing the Church to “exercise restraint by not consenting to the consecration of any candidate for the episcopate whose manner of life presents a challenge to the wider Church and will lead to further strains” sailed through the 300-member House of Bishops on a show of hands and was approved 75-34 by clergy delegations and 72-32 by lay delegations in the House of Deputies.

Earlier, at the morning Eucharist at the convention in Columbus, Ohio, Dr Schori signalled her feminist credentials in a sermon that drew on the writings of the 14th-century Julian of Norwich. She said: “Mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation — and you and I are His children. If we’re going to keep on growing into Christ images for the world around us, we’re going to have to give up fear.”

Liberals in Britain and America defended her sermon as being in a long tradition of writings by women theologians that use the metaphor of Jesus as mother.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2ludicrous; 2silly4words; apostates; deathspiral; ecusa; episcopal; griswold; harlotsreligion; lipsticklesbians; manhaters; ohbrother; schori; waronjesus
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To: rhema

LOL!! Love that article!! It truly GALLS me to read the stupid new words to glorious old hymns!


81 posted on 06/21/2006 8:14:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I don't understand how people can stay connected to a church where they behave this way...

In the Episcopal church (and really, Anglican churches in general), one is smply overall a member of the parish. (I speak from experience.) What happens outside the parish is rarely noted, except on the really rare occasions that it intrudes on parish life with things such as a new, revised prayer book.

One might hear of strange, odd things, such as the first woman bishop (unqualified, no pastoral experience, but she's black & female), but even these don't really intrude on your parish life, they're vague and far away. Things go on as they always have, and the infrequent changes tend to be small. One accomodates them -- there tends to be nothing to drive you away, unless you are looking for it.

Or you encounter a trigger.

As I did, in my first, last and only ECUSA diocesan convention. I saw what reigned outside my parish -- and left.

82 posted on 06/21/2006 8:20:35 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: GAB-1955

I am leaning towards the old Eastern church myself.


83 posted on 06/22/2006 3:44:04 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SuziQ; pissant; Caleb1411
LOL!! Love that article!! It truly GALLS me to read the stupid new words to glorious old hymns!

The new Lutheran (ELCA, naturally) hymnal is worse, by all accounts.

84 posted on 06/22/2006 5:41:46 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SuziQ; pissant
. . .and this more recent commentary of the new ELCA hymnal's desecration.
85 posted on 06/22/2006 5:47:26 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: sionnsar

I tend to refer to him as "Druid in Chief."


86 posted on 06/22/2006 6:00:30 AM PDT by kellynch (I am excessively diverted. ~~Jane Austen)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; pissant

<< The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams .... >>

Was selected and appointed by the lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, [Christian Serbia, eg] vowel-clipping, culturally-communistic, Roman Catholic Church-attending, haplessly-dickheaded "third way," [ie: second-handing] socialist, Mr Anthony Charles Lynton Blair.

'Nough said!


87 posted on 06/22/2006 6:30:09 AM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is required to ensure the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: pissant

She could take over from Helen Thomas as one of the 72 virgins.


88 posted on 06/22/2006 7:32:28 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: sionnsar

Amazingly John Wesley could have told you all about it.


89 posted on 06/22/2006 9:08:04 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: pissant

Much of the presbyterian branch of Christianity in the US has been off the track for at least 30-40 years... all you are seeing now is that they are so institutionalized nowadays they don't even bother trying to pretend anymore.


90 posted on 06/22/2006 9:10:35 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: sionnsar

No they do affect you, because the next batch of Pastors/Ministors you are going to have to interview for your parish are going to be trained and educated by the principles of that far away group has endorced...

That's the problem, you may believe your parish is immune, but its only a matter of time, and by the time these local churches wake up to do anything about it, it's too late.. the inmates are already running the assylum


91 posted on 06/22/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
No they do affect you, because the next batch of Pastors/Ministors you are going to have to interview for your parish are going to be trained and educated by the principles of that far away group has endorced...
That's the problem, you may believe your parish is immune, but its only a matter of time, and by the time these local churches wake up to do anything about it, it's too late.. the inmates are already running the assylum

To those in ECUSA, you are correct.

We have our own seminary, however, and my experience of its graduates (including our present rector) says it is stellar.

92 posted on 06/22/2006 9:55:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0urs)
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To: stillonaroll

Muchoappreciationmiamego


93 posted on 06/22/2006 2:40:43 PM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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To: Ladysmith

http://www.gbible.org/


94 posted on 07/07/2006 6:48:32 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
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