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Murtha's Second Act (Redeploy to Okinawa)
Human Events ^ | Jun 22, 2006 | Bob Novak

Posted on 06/21/2006 5:19:06 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

On NBC's "Meet the Press" last Sunday, Rep. John Murtha repeated his call for "redeploying" U.S. troops from Iraq with something new -- and disturbing to fellow Democrats. Asked by moderator Tim Russert about sites for redeployment, Murtha replied: "We can go to Okinawa. ... We can redeploy there almost instantly."

When Russert expressed doubt about "a timely response" from Okinawa to meet a Middle East crisis, the 16-term congressman from western Pennsylvania and new national security spokesman for his party stumbled: "Well, it -- you know, they -- when I say Okinawa, I, I'm saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And -- and -- when they don't know we're coming."

In fact, a Pentagon spokesman says it would take "under a month" to send a 4,500-man Marine Expeditionary Force 6,000 nautical miles from Okinawa to Bahrain and then 600 more miles to Baghdad.

Murtha's Okinawa answer embarrassed Democratic House members who would not dream of criticizing publicly the former backroom pol who became an icon to the party's antiwar base last November by calling for an immediate troop withdrawal. His performance on "Meet the Press" reinforced dismay inside the party that Murtha, at age 74, has announced his candidacy for majority leader if the Democrats regain control of the House in the 2006 elections......."

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: maroon; murtha; redeploy
The democrats have dismay. Personally, I am enjoying Murtha looking like a drooling idiot.

Murtha as Novak points out was a "back room pol" for years, and pretty successful too. Once he went public in a big way he starts putting his foot in it. This is not to minimize what a creep he is for rushing to judgement against Marines with his killing in cold blood charge.

1 posted on 06/21/2006 5:19:07 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
ACE =

Aid and
Comfort to our
Enemies


2 posted on 06/21/2006 5:20:27 PM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Diana Irey for Congress


3 posted on 06/21/2006 5:23:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I can't stand Novak, but he seems to have enjoyed writing this article. I enjoyed reading it. LOL


4 posted on 06/21/2006 5:25:35 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Bookmarked.


5 posted on 06/21/2006 5:26:17 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Democrats have bad karma.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Each time I see Murtha, he looks considerably thinner than the time before.

I think he's realized that he's in this way over is head and it's starting to take a toll.

OTOH, given his obvious diminished mental capacity, he may have simply forgotten to eat any food for the past couple of weeks.

6 posted on 06/21/2006 5:27:25 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: The G Man
"Well, it -- you know, they -- when I say Okinawa, I, I'm saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And -- and -- when they don't know we're coming."

Translation: "When I say 'Okinawa,' I mean as far away as they can get and still be in the same hemisphere. And when I say 'timely response,' I mean as long as it can possibly take without making them walk 5000 miles carrying 70 pound packs. And when I say 'they don't know we're coming,' I mean 'I don't know what I'm saying'."

7 posted on 06/21/2006 5:27:57 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: hole_n_one
is s/b his
8 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:16 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I'm all for Redeploying Murtha to Okinawa.
9 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:22 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

10 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:33 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Let's start a collection to "deploy" Murtha to Okinawa.


11 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:48 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Personally, I am enjoying Murtha looking like a drooling idiot.>>>>>>>>>>>

Me too, but it isn't enough for all the deaths of US soldiers he has likely caused by encouraging the enemy.

John Murtha, the coward who would be KING.

Perhaps a dull bladed guillotine?

12 posted on 06/21/2006 5:28:54 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Coop; freema

It would seem by Murtha's comments on TV of late that he is grossly misinformed about our military as well as foreign relations.

Diana Irey will solve his problems by retiring him in November.

http://www.irey.com/

http://vets4irey.com/


13 posted on 06/21/2006 5:29:29 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: hsalaw

14 posted on 06/21/2006 5:30:21 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: hole_n_one
I hope it is taking a toll. He deserves it.

Murtha's Fuzzy Math

"..Congressman John Murtha continues to make a fool of himself by suggesting we can effectively fight the terrorist insurgency in Iraq by "redeploying" our troops to a military base in Japan. Here's what he told Tim Russert yesterday in the course of arguing that we don't need a presence in Iraq to conduct the sort of quick-strike missions like the one that killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi:.."

Quite a few people noticed the Meet the Press performance. I hope he loses his seat.

15 posted on 06/21/2006 5:34:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Didn't we recently announce a redeployment of troops from Okinawa to Guam at the request of the Japanese govt? I believe it's the Marines at that. If so it just goes to show how out of touch Murtha really is.


16 posted on 06/21/2006 5:35:10 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: COBOL2Java
From the article later on: "Murtha disqualifies adversaries who have not tasted combat, which includes the vast majority in the Congress." And then after he rails at those without military service, someone should be asking why he had to petition to recieve his awards after he got back to the states from Viet Nam.

They really should. I hope a group like the Swift Boat Vets come forward to talk about what they know about this , "hero." He likes to wear the badge of heroism, but everyone can see that he is not by his former conduct in Abscam and his present conduct.

17 posted on 06/21/2006 5:36:46 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Yoo Hoo, Mr Murtha. The Okinawans want us OUT. We have already agreed to go.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-10-29-okinawabases_x.htm


18 posted on 06/21/2006 5:39:02 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Seems like the dementia is gradually getting worse for Osama bin Murtha


19 posted on 06/21/2006 5:39:22 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: saganite

He really is out of touch. His sole, but not unimportant, value to his district is his ability to get pork for his district. The problem with pork is that is does not usually
get spread far and wide beyond the usual cronies. If the people of the district begin to see him as an embarrassment he could go in spite of long tenure.


20 posted on 06/21/2006 5:39:54 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: All

Murtha wants to be the House Leader in '06? Ummm, wouldn't he have to win his election to do that? I don't think he's going to win his seat back, we'll see.


21 posted on 06/21/2006 5:41:46 PM PDT by Snowzz
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To: Anti-Bubba182

What, exactly, is Murtha's Marine credentials? It seems this blabbering idiot has nothing going for him except that he was once a Marine - and i say that on purpose.


22 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:05 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: saganite

I'm talking to myself. Yes in deed we're moving more than half the Marines on Okinawa to Guam and Murtha thinks we can reverse that and "redeploy there. What a buffoon.




After 10 years of negotiations, the United States and Japan finally announced a plan to move the airstrip's operations to a more remote part of Okinawa and shift 8,000 of the 15,000 Marines on the island to Guam.

But many Okinawans are not satisfied. They want the air station's operations moved off the island completely and are frustrated that the relocation won't happen until 2014.

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/06/21/ap2829813.html


23 posted on 06/21/2006 5:42:19 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: technomage
Rep. Murtha: Pennsylvania's Embarassment

Dementia may have consequences.

24 posted on 06/21/2006 5:45:12 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Well, it -- you know, they -- when I say Okinawa, I, I'm saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And -- and -- when they don't know we're coming."


25 posted on 06/21/2006 5:45:35 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius
"..When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And -- and -- when they don't know we're coming.".."

Really sad isn't it?

26 posted on 06/21/2006 5:50:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Proof that he's senile. Poor man.


27 posted on 06/21/2006 5:51:40 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Redeploy Murtha
To Pennsylvania

28 posted on 06/21/2006 5:54:08 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: stop_fascism

Reminds me of that Arkansas congressman who ran for President back in the 60's. He had been an influential member of congress, head of the House ways and means committee IIRC but he will always be remembered for making a jackass of himself running for prez. His name escapes me though.


29 posted on 06/21/2006 5:55:25 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Really sad isn't it?

It is sad. But what is truly frightening is that the babbling of senile dementia is indistinguishable from Democrat demagoguery in Congress.

30 posted on 06/21/2006 5:56:20 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hehehehe. What a maroon!

31 posted on 06/21/2006 5:57:28 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Liberals aren't having so much fun now that the rabbit has the gun. --Ann Coulter)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
From another section of the article--

...that federal prosecutors designated him an unindicted co-conspirator in the Abscam investigation 26 years ago....

Murtha got into politics in 1968 as a 36-year-old highly decorated Marine and in 1974 became the first Vietnam War veteran elected to Congress. By 1980, Murtha was a lieutenant of Speaker Thomas P. (Tip) O'Neill and was moving to the top in the House when the FBI named him as one of eight members of Congress videotaped being offered bribes by a phony Arab sheik.

The other seven congressional targets took cash and were convicted in federal court. The videotape showed Murtha declining to take cash but expressing interest in further negotiations, while bragging about his political influence. Murtha testified against the popular Rep. Frank Thompson in the Abscam case, which created lifelong enemies in the Democratic cloakroom. The House Ethics Committee exonerated Murtha of misconduct charges by a largely party-line vote, after which the committee's special counsel resigned in protest.

32 posted on 06/21/2006 5:59:19 PM PDT by Tarheel (Good fences make good neighbors--R. Frost)
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To: Tarheel
That shows a Murtha a bit slicker than today. He was able to ooze out of that gaining a few enemies in the process. I guess he figures that he has out lasted them as he tries for Majority Leader.

It is clear that the man is a greater exponent of expediency than loyalty.

33 posted on 06/21/2006 6:05:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Attention Murtha: No matter the score or inadvertant obstacles American sport's teams or individual competitors face mid-game, they DO NOT forfeit the game to "cut and run."


34 posted on 06/21/2006 6:07:12 PM PDT by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I think he meant the troops would be deployed in Luckenbach....

http://www.luckenbachtexas.com/lbt/html/History.html
35 posted on 06/21/2006 6:16:07 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: caisson71




http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?sm1=UmVwbGllcyB8IFJlcG9ydCBBYnVzZSBdIFRvOiBBbnRpLUJ1YmJhMTgyIFdoYXQsIGV4YWN0bHksIGlzIE11cnRoYSdzIE1hcmluZSBjcmVkZW50aWFscz8gSXQgc2VlbXMgdGhpcyBibGFiYmVyaW5nIGlkaW90IGhhcyBub3RoaW5nIGdvaW5nIGZvciBoaW0gZXhjZXB0IHRoYXQgaGUgd2FzIG9uY2UgYSBNYXJpbmUg&fw=10&fc=0&ss=-1&es=-1&gwp=11&ver=1.1.1.377&method=1

He left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marines during the Korean War. There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal. He rose through the ranks to become a drill instructor at Parris Island and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. He then was assigned to the Second Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

After his service, he ran a small business, Johnstown Minute Car Wash, attended the University of Pittsburgh on the GI Bill, and received a degree in economics from Indiana University of Pennsylvania. Murtha married his wife Joyce on June 10, 1955. (They now have three children and live in Johnstown.)

US Marine and decorated Vietnam War veteran
Murtha remained in the Marine Corps Reserves. In 1959, then Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1966-67, serving as a battalion staff officer (S-2 Intelligence Section), receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V" for valor in combat, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He retired from the Reserves as a colonel in 1990, receiving the Navy Distinguished Service Medal.


36 posted on 06/21/2006 6:37:40 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (islam is a mutant meme)
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To: P-40

Okinawa does not satisfy the sentimentality of women who have bought into Bring the Boys Home. They don't realize they are professional soldiers, not draftees.


37 posted on 06/21/2006 6:39:00 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

An S-2 staff officer with two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star with "V" device? I wonder how he did that?


38 posted on 06/21/2006 7:00:08 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Hillary and the "FBI Murtha file" at work again.

I wonder if he gets a phone call or just a memo from the office of: HRC?

39 posted on 06/21/2006 7:07:49 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (FAKE, but ACCURATE!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
With apologies to the creator of the original image.
40 posted on 06/21/2006 7:08:57 PM PDT by DonnerT (The church of the Godless worship themselves!)
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To: DonnerT

A prime example of the brilliant minds we have on the Armed Services Committy.


41 posted on 06/21/2006 7:13:21 PM PDT by DonnerT (The church of the Godless worship themselves!)
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To: jazusamo; Coop; smoothsailing; usmcobra
This part is EXCELLENT:

Murtha's Okinawa answer embarrassed Democratic House members who would not dream of criticizing publicly the former backroom pol who became an icon to the party's antiwar base last November by calling for an immediate troop withdrawal. His performance on "Meet the Press" reinforced dismay inside the party that Murtha, at age 74, has announced his candidacy for majority leader if the Democrats regain control of the House in the 2006 elections.

I LOVE that paragraph

And this is great:

Murtha now wears his heroic combat record like a suit of armor.

and this

Murtha disqualifies adversaries who have not tasted combat...

Now, how about telling us what you did in combat, mr. ex-marine?

42 posted on 06/21/2006 7:18:48 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Murtha is embarrassing himself and I don't think he even realizes it.


43 posted on 06/21/2006 7:26:53 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: caisson71
As I recall,Murtha was a long time Marine (aka lifer) having started out as an enlisted man and advanced to officer status. I also seem to recall that his "heroics in Viet Nam" are a bit questionable...he was one of those officers in the rear with the gear that came out to the bush on a chopper once in a while, bringing hot chow and the payroll roster. It was not uncommon for the boys in the rear to take care of the lifers and give out bronze stars for this kind of vermin with the same frequency that the grunts were handed out malaria pills.

Secondly, the guy is not, I repeat NOT a marine in stature, composure, conviction or anything else whatsoever. Marines pride themselves on dedication to task, espirt de corps and not leaving others behind on the battle field. Murtha has deserted marines currently in harms way, aiding and encouraging their adversaries. May the bastard rot in hell. He has sold his soul for the cheap thrill of personal advancement in a dysfunctional unit...the Democratic Party.

Lastly, the dim wit is none too bright when it comes to world geography....he thinks Okinawa must be close to the middle east...after all...both are somewhere on the other side of the globe. Little did he know that there is 5,000 miles between the two. So, he's a dumb bastard to boot. But, he believes he is valuable leadership material for the Democratic Party.

May God save the United States of America.
44 posted on 06/21/2006 7:37:17 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: bmwcyle

I highly recommend www.michaelsavage.com tonight for the "real story" about Murtha. Savage's show highlighted the latest Wash Times article uncovering Murtha's shady deals. It's quite mindblowing and even ties his suspicious deals to the Democratic Mouthpiece, Nancy Pelosi's nephew.


45 posted on 06/21/2006 7:59:11 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The most interesting part of the article-
Murtha was named as an unindicted co conspirator in the Congressional ABSCAM scandal.
He didn't take the bribe that day, but, wanted more negotations.
Paging Nancy Pelosi.
I'm sure if anyone in the drive by media dares to question that senile gas bag about his shady past-
he'll fly into a bullying rage, ranting and raving that only those who have taken a bribe can question his corruption bona fides.


46 posted on 06/22/2006 8:58:06 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: freema
Murtha now wears his heroic combat record like a suit of armor.

and this Murtha disqualifies adversaries who have not tasted combat...

Now, how about telling us what you did in combat, mr. ex-marine?

I was privileged to meet the Most Decorated and Second Most Decorated soldiers of WWII as well as many decorated veterans of Viet Nam.

Not a single one of them "wore" their combat record as a suit of armor.

Neither did they fault anyone who never heard a shot fired in anger.

And the only way you could get them to mention their heroic acts was after a lot of trust and booze had filled their veins.

47 posted on 06/22/2006 9:11:37 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: N. Theknow

Kerry and Murtha have five Purple hearts between them with nary a visible scar nor limp and have not their released service records.


48 posted on 06/22/2006 9:20:11 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: N. Theknow

Ain't that something?

I never knew my uncle was at Iwo Jima until last year...


49 posted on 06/22/2006 5:27:19 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: The G Man

True...but wouldn't it have been easier (and equally true) just to change it to "Ace Murtha, Pet Defective"?


50 posted on 06/22/2006 5:29:38 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Aaaaaaall righty then!")
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