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Iraq chemical weapons too old to use: US intelligence officials
AFP via Yahoo ^ | 6/22/06 | Jim Mannion

Posted on 06/22/2006 12:50:39 PM PDT by Enchante

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To: Enchante

Hmm, maybe they don't want the bad guys to know the stuff is still good and don't want them using it. Or, this is another group of Clinto-Punks stirring up things against the administration. If that's the case I suggest they start with the first of the 500 weapons and one by one open them up an stick their heads in them.


21 posted on 06/22/2006 12:59:11 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: Enchante

Good! So this means that all those stockpiles the military wants to burn can be gotten rid of next week right????

Guess all those law suits can be dropped as well, eh?

;-)


22 posted on 06/22/2006 12:59:46 PM PDT by Freeport
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To: Enchante
These weapons might be "too old to use", but they are still deadly dangerous. More importantly, they were there!

The argument used so freely by the anti-war types, that Bush went to war for the "wrong reasons", or that "Bush lied", has been pretty largely blown out of the water. Saddam HAD'EM! And Rick Santorum was perfectly right in revealing the existence of this report, and publicizing parts of it (some parts are still classified).

23 posted on 06/22/2006 12:59:47 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: moose2004
They could still be used as IED's couldn't they?

That might be tough. A while ago, about 2004, that happened, some terrorist found and improvised a mustard shell as an IED. It didn't work because mustard gas is binary, it's in two parts that mix together when the shell is fired. The spin on the shell provides the mixing necessary to generate the gas. If you just try and set it off, you won't get any mixing. The terrorist probably didn't know what he had.

On the other hand if you did know what you had, and opened the shell to extract the components without somehow killing yourself, you could have yourself a nifty little weapon.

24 posted on 06/22/2006 1:00:07 PM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: Enchante
The Sarin found was still viable I believe.
The point is.. Saddam lied about destroying WMD's.. Something he wasn't allowed to do without UN supervision.
25 posted on 06/22/2006 1:00:12 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: Enchante

Thank you for posting this article.

"But the intelligence officials, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity, "


TRANSLATION: The AP reporter has a sock puppet.


26 posted on 06/22/2006 1:00:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I will go down with this ship, and I won't put my hands up in surrender.)
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To: Enchante

I was watching Imus this morning and he had a military guy on who said he found a little-publicized report that traces of sarin were found in the Tigis River by our troops.

I had never heard of this and this guy is certainly no fan of the president so I was surprised when he said this.

Anyone else hear this?

Jane


27 posted on 06/22/2006 1:00:59 PM PDT by MRobert (MRobert)
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To: moose2004
"They could still be used as IED's couldn't they?"

Yes they could be so used and this needs to be passed along.

28 posted on 06/22/2006 1:01:42 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Enchante

"intelligence officials, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity," i.e., our experts at the WaPo. Sorry, this doesn't pass the smell test.


29 posted on 06/22/2006 1:03:01 PM PDT by LS
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To: alloysteel

Many good points made by folks on this thread.... and I invite all whiny libs/MSM types and "anonymous sources" to volunteer to prove their confidence that these munitions are trivial by opening one in their own dining room, with their family around........


30 posted on 06/22/2006 1:03:11 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Enchante

Yes...unlike these "sources" in Intelligence or the Pentagon....Rummy was quite forthright in answering the questions re: the WMDs and the report.

He didn't hesitate, as if this is a made up story...or if it was OLD NEWS that should be dismissed or anything.

I have seen a lot Rummy conferences...and he is quick to discount any type of "unsubstaniated" rumor...or hyperbole spouted by anyone....

So...judging by his reaction...I would put credence in the view that what Santorum and Hoekstra revealed IS significant.

Of course this is just my opinion.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 1:03:15 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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32 posted on 06/22/2006 1:04:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

They could have been used AND/OR sold.


33 posted on 06/22/2006 1:04:55 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: Enchante

Pure BS from the media. This is easily quashed by anyone with an average intellect. Any story with anonymous sources is automatically suspect, and seeing as how the truth in this matter is detrimental to the Democrats, their brethren with the media will certainly try anything they possibly can to simply ignore this or at least attempt to debunk it with bald faced lies, and this is the latter.

As has been previously noted, we are using extreme precautions to destroy our much older munitions of this variety since the chemicals most certainly are NOT inert.

This was certainly an expected response from the usual suspects. We need to make sure this is not simply "hushed up" and we need to bludgeon both the media and the Democrats with this all Summer long, IMO.


34 posted on 06/22/2006 1:06:48 PM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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OK, we know that Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer et. al. are going to make as much of this as possible. Sooooo, have our ODU,s turn a couple into night table lamps for our above distinguished senators and representatives, for them to use, seeing that they will probably say the are harmless.


35 posted on 06/22/2006 1:07:29 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (You don't win wars by being nice to the enemy.)
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To: sure_fine

"AP and 'unnamed sources' are pretty much the same

story tellers"

Tried and true way of making up a story and passsing it as fact. Supermarket tabloids do it all the time. AP is no better.


36 posted on 06/22/2006 1:08:01 PM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Enchante
Although not suitable for their intended purposed, the officials said such weapons remain a potential hazard if obtained by insurgents and modified in ways they would not discuss.

So, in other words, they are STILL dangerous to our troops.

37 posted on 06/22/2006 1:08:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Bringbackthedraft

But were they too old to use in 2001?


38 posted on 06/22/2006 1:08:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: mtbopfuyn

The weapons were not "recently found." The article says they were found in groups of two and three over the past three years.

This information has been dribbling out since the beginning of the war.


39 posted on 06/22/2006 1:08:41 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Peach

I agree. That report did say the WMDs posed a serious threat to Iraq and elsewhere! So where do these guys get off?


40 posted on 06/22/2006 1:09:16 PM PDT by hawkaw
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