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Chertoff says Homeland Security no '24' - 2-hour panel at Heritage Foundation MC'd by Rush
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/23/06 | Lara Jakes Jordan - ap

Posted on 06/23/2006 8:52:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Take it from Michael Chertoff: The Homeland Security Department is no "24." Chertoff, the department's secretary, said Friday he doesn't have a way-cool, state-of-the-art Counter Terrorist Unit like the one on the Fox TV show. Bad guys aren't foiled on an hourly basis. And not everybody is romantically involved with co-workers.

So by the time the clock stopped on a two-hour panel that included "24" cast members, Washington policy wonks and Rush Limbaugh, some mythical similarities between the show and the government's counterterrorism campaign had been debunked. And that was none too soon for Mary Lynn Rajskub, who plays techno-chick Chloe O'Brian on "24," and clearly had her fill of those who take the show a mite too seriously.

"I got into acting to avoid politics and so I can remain in a fantasy world," said Rajskub, who seemed bewildered at questions about how closely "24" cleaves to reality. "And you guys are kind of bringing me out of it."

And so it went in the surreal meeting of Hollywood and Washington, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation think tank, about America's image in the war on terror. The audience included Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginny, in the front row.

The star of "24," Kiefer Sutherland — that's agent Jack Bauer — wasn't there.

In one parallel between Homeland Security and the show, Chertoff spoke of the challenges in "trying to make the best choice with a series of bad options."

Characters on "24" constantly face situations "where there is no clear magic bullet to solve the problem, and you have to weigh the cost benefits of a series of unpalatable alternatives," he said.

"That is what we do every day."

Limbaugh peppered the panel over whether "24" influences public perceptions about counterterrorism, and whether the actors are snubbed by Hollywood liberals for participating in what Limbaugh called a "pro-America show."

Gregory Itzin, who plays the nefarious President Charles Logan, said he has had to defend himself from one or two people "about the fact that the show does have torture issues and how could I live with that."

"It's a show!" he said. "I've done Shakespeare and have killed people with a sword."

Later, Limbaugh went back to the program's creation, saying: "You got lucky with 9/11 happening shortly after the show started." He quickly stopped himself, saying: "Sorry — not got lucky — bad choice of words." At another point, he offered a story line for a political cameo: Democratic Rep. John P. Murtha (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, a tough critic of the Bush administration's Iraq policy, as "head of the new KGB."

David Heyman, a homeland security expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said "24" may give the public a false impression of how fast and easy it is to battle terrorists and other threats against the nation. Agreed Heritage's James Jay Carafano: "If we're waiting for Washington to do something before we can start saving lives, we're all going to die."

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On the Net:

Homeland Security Department: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

"24": http://www.fox.com/24/

The Heritage Foundation: http://www.heritage.org/


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chertoff; heritagefoundation; homelandsecurity; rushlimbaugh
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Actor Gregory Itzin speaks at a program called '24' and America's Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction or Does it Matter ?, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, Friday, June 23, 2006 in Washington. Itzin plays President Charles Logan on the TV series '24'.(AP Photo/Nick Wass)


1 posted on 06/23/2006 8:52:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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http://www.heritage.org/

"24" and America’s Image in

Fighting Terrorism:
Fact, Fiction, or Does it Matter?

Friday, June 23, 2006

Watch Archived Video

2 posted on 06/23/2006 8:54:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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Live!! A Rush 24/7 Special Event Today From 10AM-12PM ET...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1654300/posts
Rush `Limbaugh.com ^ | 06/23/2006 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/23/2006 6:57:44 AM PDT by Matchett-PI


3 posted on 06/23/2006 8:56:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge
There is really good picture of Rush getting a great kiss from Mary Lynn Rajskub (Chloe) but alas, it is from Getty so we can't post it here.
4 posted on 06/23/2006 8:58:23 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Mary Lynn Rajskub is hot.


5 posted on 06/23/2006 8:59:47 PM PDT by kromike
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To: NormsRevenge

Radio show host Rush Limbaugh speaks at a forum hosted by the Heritage Foundation, on the similarities between the war on terrorism and the television show '24,' in Washington June 23, 2006. REUTERS/Micah Walter (UNITED STATES)


Rush Limbaugh, left, moderates a program called '24' and America's Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction or Does it Matter ?, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, Friday, June 23, 2006 in Washington. From second left are James Jay Carafano, Howard Gordon, Joel Surnow, Mary Lynn Rajskub, Carlos Bernard, Gregory Itzin, Robert Cochran, and David Heyman.(AP Photo/Nick Wass)


6 posted on 06/23/2006 8:59:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge
...he doesn't have a way-cool, state-of-the-art Counter Terrorist Unit like the one on the Fox TV show./i>

Well, damn it, get one.

7 posted on 06/23/2006 9:00:08 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Damn Getty.


Bring
Back
Edgar!!!


8 posted on 06/23/2006 9:01:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge

OMG! From Nixon to Gore!


9 posted on 06/23/2006 9:01:24 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Rush

Radio

10 posted on 06/23/2006 9:03:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: NormsRevenge

Am I the only one who thinks this "24 panel" thing was stupid and somewhat humiliating?


11 posted on 06/23/2006 9:03:49 PM PDT by Hildy ("Whenever someone smiles at me all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life." - Dwight Schrute)
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To: NormsRevenge
If anyone wants to see it, just to to Getty's website. (I'm not even going to link to the site so as to make sure I don't have my post pulled.) Find it through Yahoo or Google.

Then click on "Editorial".

Search for "Rush" and you'll find the picutres.

12 posted on 06/23/2006 9:04:02 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: Hildy

Probably


13 posted on 06/23/2006 9:04:25 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Edgar is dead.
14 posted on 06/23/2006 9:05:33 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nightline just did a short story on this, and they spun it as: "Conservatives like '24' because they torture terrorists."


15 posted on 06/23/2006 9:06:05 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rush was talking about this (then upcoming) panel discussion yesterday on his show. Wish I could have seen it.


16 posted on 06/23/2006 9:07:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
You can watch it right here.

http://www.heritage.org/press/24event.cfm

17 posted on 06/23/2006 9:08:41 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: Hildy

I only caught a minute or two at the start and then listened to Roger Hedgcock filling in for Rush and did stuff..

PS.. You are not alone ,,

This could be construed as an example of a conservative radio star hollywood gubamint cabal gathering. ;-)


18 posted on 06/23/2006 9:08:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge

..but not to worry, Chertoff was on top of it.


19 posted on 06/23/2006 9:10:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like it was fun!


20 posted on 06/23/2006 9:12:44 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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