Posted on 06/23/2006 8:52:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - Take it from Michael Chertoff: The Homeland Security Department is no "24." Chertoff, the department's secretary, said Friday he doesn't have a way-cool, state-of-the-art Counter Terrorist Unit like the one on the Fox TV show. Bad guys aren't foiled on an hourly basis. And not everybody is romantically involved with co-workers.
So by the time the clock stopped on a two-hour panel that included "24" cast members, Washington policy wonks and Rush Limbaugh, some mythical similarities between the show and the government's counterterrorism campaign had been debunked. And that was none too soon for Mary Lynn Rajskub, who plays techno-chick Chloe O'Brian on "24," and clearly had her fill of those who take the show a mite too seriously.
"I got into acting to avoid politics and so I can remain in a fantasy world," said Rajskub, who seemed bewildered at questions about how closely "24" cleaves to reality. "And you guys are kind of bringing me out of it."
And so it went in the surreal meeting of Hollywood and Washington, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation think tank, about America's image in the war on terror. The audience included Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his wife, Ginny, in the front row.
The star of "24," Kiefer Sutherland — that's agent Jack Bauer — wasn't there.
In one parallel between Homeland Security and the show, Chertoff spoke of the challenges in "trying to make the best choice with a series of bad options."
Characters on "24" constantly face situations "where there is no clear magic bullet to solve the problem, and you have to weigh the cost benefits of a series of unpalatable alternatives," he said.
"That is what we do every day."
Limbaugh peppered the panel over whether "24" influences public perceptions about counterterrorism, and whether the actors are snubbed by Hollywood liberals for participating in what Limbaugh called a "pro-America show."
Gregory Itzin, who plays the nefarious President Charles Logan, said he has had to defend himself from one or two people "about the fact that the show does have torture issues and how could I live with that."
"It's a show!" he said. "I've done Shakespeare and have killed people with a sword."
Later, Limbaugh went back to the program's creation, saying: "You got lucky with 9/11 happening shortly after the show started." He quickly stopped himself, saying: "Sorry — not got lucky — bad choice of words." At another point, he offered a story line for a political cameo: Democratic Rep. John P. Murtha (news, bio, voting record) of Pennsylvania, a tough critic of the Bush administration's Iraq policy, as "head of the new KGB."
David Heyman, a homeland security expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said "24" may give the public a false impression of how fast and easy it is to battle terrorists and other threats against the nation. Agreed Heritage's James Jay Carafano: "If we're waiting for Washington to do something before we can start saving lives, we're all going to die."
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On the Net:
Homeland Security Department: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/
"24": http://www.fox.com/24/
The Heritage Foundation: http://www.heritage.org/
Actor Gregory Itzin speaks at a program called '24' and America's Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction or Does it Matter ?, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, Friday, June 23, 2006 in Washington. Itzin plays President Charles Logan on the TV series '24'.(AP Photo/Nick Wass)
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Posted on 06/23/2006 6:57:44 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
Mary Lynn Rajskub is hot.
Radio show host Rush Limbaugh speaks at a forum hosted by the Heritage Foundation, on the similarities between the war on terrorism and the television show '24,' in Washington June 23, 2006. REUTERS/Micah Walter (UNITED STATES)
Rush Limbaugh, left, moderates a program called '24' and America's Image in Fighting Terrorism: Fact, Fiction or Does it Matter ?, sponsored by the Heritage Foundation, Friday, June 23, 2006 in Washington. From second left are James Jay Carafano, Howard Gordon, Joel Surnow, Mary Lynn Rajskub, Carlos Bernard, Gregory Itzin, Robert Cochran, and David Heyman.(AP Photo/Nick Wass)
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Am I the only one who thinks this "24 panel" thing was stupid and somewhat humiliating?
Then click on "Editorial".
Search for "Rush" and you'll find the picutres.
Probably
Nightline just did a short story on this, and they spun it as: "Conservatives like '24' because they torture terrorists."
Rush was talking about this (then upcoming) panel discussion yesterday on his show. Wish I could have seen it.
I only caught a minute or two at the start and then listened to Roger Hedgcock filling in for Rush and did stuff..
PS.. You are not alone ,,
This could be construed as an example of a conservative radio star hollywood gubamint cabal gathering. ;-)
..but not to worry, Chertoff was on top of it.
Sounds like it was fun!
It's just a television show.
This entire event seems a little absurd to me.
That would make one helluva nice wall mural. ;-)
Henderson and the Secret Service the 1st Lady pooped need to be added .. Lots of room for a few more .. next season,,
I hope Jack likes Chinese food,,
Interesting that she's just as pouty in person as her character is on the show...
Ooops, damn, I meant popped in my previous post, not uhh, yaknow .. :-} ..
Thanks!
In a related story, studies have shown that the real life mafia in NYC/New Jersey area is no "Sopranos." Not only are no top-level mafia bosses seeing psychiatrists but there are apparently no way-cool mob hangouts like the Bada-Bing.
I saw Mary Lynn Rajskub on Conan one night a few months ago and she was very much like her character. She is very straightforward and smart. Also, there doesn't seem to be a snob/prima donna bone in her body - - she's very down to earth.
Did you notice that one of the Chinese consulate members from the previous season is Ping - the Chinese food deliverer from Seinfeld. He was in 4-5 Seinfeld episodes including the one where George ordered anti-balding cream from China. Ping translated the phone call.
There hasn't been a realistic TV show since 'Dallas' on which JR Ewing accurately portrayed the typical Texas oil baron.
There is a certain amount of mythology-like treatment of some topics, gangsters, mobsters, mafioso and spies included in that mix.
24 has been able to create a pretty cool show that is hip to the times, gadgets, lots of physical activity, and tap into current potentialities and realities.
I am a late arrival to the 24 scene but have found it to beat the heck out of much of what is on TV today.
The one big difference in Chloe and Mary Lynn is that Mary Lynn is completely computer illiterate.
Henderson??? In CTU heaven??? Well, I guess if they put Nina there . . . .
Henderson, Nina, and Sherry, should never be listed in "CTU Heaven". They're right down in CTU Hell.
Cool image! I got most of them, but I'm not sure why the terrorist's wife is included, even though she helped Jack infiltrate the cell two seasons ago. She wasn't a CTU agent.
I don't see Henderson in that graphic...?
Oops, I missed the heaven angle..
The Bad Guys Mural would be filled a couple times over by now..
But NormsRevenge said he should be added along with Logan's thug who tried to kill Aaron.
Henderson was evil incarnate and if anyone is roasting in CTU Hell, it is him.
Seeing Jack double tap him in 5.23 made my day. Season 5 was really depressing.
Anyone..
and what the heck happened to Niles, the guy that erased the tape?
bear with me, season 5 is my first season,, I know there is a history,, I only started watching a little over half the way thru the season this year, right after David Palmer was killed .
Richard Walsh
Lynn McGill
Dina Araz
Michelle Dessler
Tony Almeida
Nina Myers
George Mason
Edgar Stiles
Teri Bauer
Paula Shaufer
Ryan Chapelle
Debbie (Behrooz's GF) (Or: Carrie Bendis?)
Gael Ortega
Jamie Ferrell
Sherry Palmer
David Palmer
Palmer was killed in 5.1 so you've seen more of S5 than just 1/2.
I'm pretty sure it's Carrie Bendis and not Debbie.
Henderson was definitely a bad dude,, slitting Jack's latest female squeeze like he did. Jack set him up real good and he knew it.
I see the show has been syndicated and is popping up all over the place.. I should just bite the bullet and get the DVDs.
What is it with that? An insult? I want more money next year?
Listening to Limbaugh's short reviews on his program during this last year I got the feeling he wasn't real happy where 24 was going. He even had some suggestions and predictions.
No, you're not the only one. I was somewhat surprised when I heard Rush saying he was going to be involved with it, other than the fact that I know he's a huge fan of the show. But this mixing of Hollywood and real politics is absurd, even if it is "24".
This is something I've been working on for a few weeks. It should help new fans of the show to understand some of the terminology used by people who have been fans for a while. It is no where near complete.
(If the page doesn't load, just refresh it a few times. My Verizon webspace sucks.)
Thanks for the link..
Yup, I have missed all the deaths of David Palmer, Tony Almeida, and Michelle Dessler. Jack had good reason to take care of business.
I know Jack's daughter was mad at him for disappearing and not knowing why and played dead w/o contacting her,, and his wife and a couple others he was close to were killed,
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