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Life in an Islamist US
Boston Globe ^ | 6/25/2006 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 06/25/2006 9:42:56 AM PDT by worldclass

In truth, though, most Americans have never thought about what it would mean if the terrorists really did win -- if militant Islamists were to succeed in their quest for political control of the United States. It isn't something that elites in academia, government, or the media generally like to talk about, for fear of being branded racist or ``Islamophobic." American Islamists themselves are careful not to speak too candidly about their supremacist goals.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; jihadinamerica
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ACLU vs. an Islamic gov't...who wins? ;-)
1 posted on 06/25/2006 9:42:58 AM PDT by worldclass
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To: worldclass

If under Islamic rule, Sharia law would have to trump a constitution, which would by then have been trashed anyway.


2 posted on 06/25/2006 9:44:41 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: worldclass

No one wins. We all loose.


3 posted on 06/25/2006 9:49:35 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: worldclass
Others, especially Jews and homosexuals, are not tolerated at all; many flee for their lives along a new underground railroad into Canada.

...only to find that Canada caved in to the Islamofacists decades earlier.

4 posted on 06/25/2006 9:49:54 AM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (optional, printed after your name on post)
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He is also quite aware of Islam's appeal. Many converts to Islam find comfort and reassurance in its moral certainty and firm standards, and Ferrigno underscores the point. ``Don't tell me about the old days, girl, I lived through them," says one character, a top government official. ``Drugs sold on street corners. Guns everywhere. God driven out of the schools and courthouses. Births without marriage, rich and poor, so many bastards you wouldn't believe me. A country without shame. Alcohol sold in supermarkets. Babies killed in the womb, tens of millions of them. . . . We are not perfect, not by any measure, but I would not go back to those days for anything."

The Conservative defeat of Liberalism would eradicate this much better than Islam.

5 posted on 06/25/2006 9:52:11 AM PDT by edpc
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To: worldclass

From the article:

The war we are in is a spiritual no less than a military one, a point too many of us are apt to ignore.

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So true.


6 posted on 06/25/2006 9:52:17 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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"Ferrigno is quite aware that moderate and liberal Muslims have the most to fear..."

Where would they be? I worked for some "moderate and liberal muslims." Underneath the moderate and liberal face presented to the facility was a face of intolerant and nasty confrontation orchestrated throughly by the muslims.

There is no middle way. There is no way Islam can exist alongside the West.


7 posted on 06/25/2006 9:52:58 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just cros]ÜÒÍ the Rubicon.)
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throughly...eek...thoroughly.

Sorry. Too much beer! (last night..)


8 posted on 06/25/2006 9:54:23 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just cros]ÜÒÍ the Rubicon.)
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To: worldclass
if we give in to fear, if we aren't able to do these simple and ordinary things, the terrorists have won the war.

Ludicrous liberal platitudes! Hate 'em. Traitorous libs would be the first ones to stop doing "these simple and ordinary things" if muslims took over and outlawed them. And they'd do it without skipping a beat.

9 posted on 06/25/2006 9:55:50 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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There is no middle way. There is no way Islam can exist alongside the West.

Alongside, yes. Inside, no!

10 posted on 06/25/2006 9:56:31 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: edpc
``Don't tell me about the old days, girl, I lived through them," says one character, a top government official. ``Drugs sold on street corners. Guns everywhere. God driven out of the schools and courthouses. Births without marriage, rich and poor, so many bastards you wouldn't believe me. A country without shame. Alcohol sold in supermarkets. Babies killed in the womb, tens of millions of them. . . . We are not perfect, not by any measure, but I would not go back to those days for anything."

The old days???

11 posted on 06/25/2006 9:57:36 AM PDT by patriot_wes (Law of Unintended Consequences; Infant Baptism = an unbelieving, unsaved church.)
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To: MizSterious

I recommend the book, ``Prayers for the Assassin" by Robert Ferrigno. IIRC, there was a civil war, the South is Christian, the West is Islamic, there are some independent areas, some areas that are radioactive and some that are plague-ridden. It is all based on a huge lie that Israeli agents nuked the USA. A famous actress announces conversion to Islam at a televised Academy Award presentation. No more USA, no more Constitution. A Muslim woman historian from the ruling family discovers the truth of the lie and with an Islamist secret agent and the famous actress, who now realizes her error, fight to release the truth to the world.

In bleaker moments, I can see something like this occuring, especially if all the Islamists in the sanctuary, progressive cities were to coordinate their attacks to take control of these areas, which are already sort of defacto terrorist and illegal enclaves.

However, getting out of those enclaves and dealing with the rest of us in the heartland would be another story.


12 posted on 06/25/2006 10:00:36 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: worldclass

What annoys me so much is the liberal meme that social conservatives have so much in common with the Islamists, the "American Taliban" as Julian Bond likes to say. This is so far from the truth. The first thing that would go in an Islamist America would be the Christian church. Christian schools would be closed, Christmas and Easter would no longer be holidays, stores would open on Sunday and close on Friday, open display of the Cross would be punishable by imprisonment. Churches would have to remove the crosses, destroy organs, eliminate choirs and hymnals. Christians would have to pay a "dhimmi tax." Yeah right, Christians really want that!


13 posted on 06/25/2006 10:01:28 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictatorship of America.....James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: patriot_wes

The quote comes from a book mentioned in post 12.


14 posted on 06/25/2006 10:03:29 AM PDT by edpc
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He is also quite aware of Islam's appeal. Many converts to Islam find comfort and reassurance in its moral certainty and firm standards, and Ferrigno underscores the point. ``Don't tell me about the old days, girl, I lived through them," says one character, a top government official. ``Drugs sold on street corners. Guns everywhere. God driven out of the schools and courthouses. Births without marriage, rich and poor, so many bastards you wouldn't believe me. A country without shame. Alcohol sold in supermarkets. Babies killed in the womb, tens of millions of them. . . . We are not perfect, not by any measure, but I would not go back to those days for anything."

Unfortunatly to those people that don't know any better yet want to strive for those and similar values, Islam can be appealing to them as a tool to reinforce those values. I know myself, I know better, but there might be some who don't so I think it is up to us who believe in a Judeo-Christian way of life to reach out to these people.
15 posted on 06/25/2006 10:04:10 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President - 2008!)
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To: worldclass

This was in the Boston Globe?!!!


16 posted on 06/25/2006 10:04:13 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( Terrorism is a symptom, ISLAM IS THE DISEASE!)
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To: MizSterious
I've thought about it and arrived at the conclusion that a lot of muslims will die in the attempt but they will never impose islam on the USA. If you think our last civil war was bloody just wait until we fight islam right here at home. When the public is faced with domination of a pedophile based medieval cult the battle lines would be instantly established. Ialam can not win a war in this country.
There are hundreds of thousands of armed veterans in this country who will instantly join the fight. The war against islam would not end until the gene pool of these retards is totally removes from our soil.
17 posted on 06/25/2006 10:05:46 AM PDT by oldenuff2no
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I read "Prayers for the Assassin," it did not make sense.

His first silly premise, that Americans start to convert to Islam en masse because some Hollywood stars become Muslim. Yeah right, like we currently have mass conversions to Scientology.

The second silly premise is that the U.S. becomes Islamic but Canada does not. If anything Canada will go Sharia long before the U.S.

Third silly premise, that Islam will continue even after Mecca has been nuked.

18 posted on 06/25/2006 10:08:01 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 140-144)
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Bond should be very careful indeed. He need only to look at the slavery that continues in Africa but this time the fault lies with the Muslims.


19 posted on 06/25/2006 10:15:50 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Token conservative....


20 posted on 06/25/2006 10:16:20 AM PDT by misterrob
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