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Planned Parenthood Celebration Jolted by Abortion Survivor [Colorado]
CatholicEducation.org ^ | May, 2006 | Ted Harvey

Posted on 06/28/2006 11:25:07 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Tirian

**I remind people of the post-Roe generation that abortion has been the Black Death of their generation.**

Excellent point. Only difference is that it will have a great impact on those who provided or assisted with abortions at the Last Judgment!


101 posted on 06/28/2006 4:43:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: rightwingmichigander

That brings tears to my eyes and a lump to my throat!


102 posted on 06/28/2006 4:45:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Lion in Winter

Amen!


103 posted on 06/28/2006 4:47:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

You're welcome!


104 posted on 06/28/2006 4:48:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

awesome story, thanks for posting, will bookmark


105 posted on 06/28/2006 4:51:51 PM PDT by votelife (we need 60 conservative senators)
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To: FJ290
I never said Harvey or Jessen broke any laws. I did say that the Boston Tea Party broke laws and was not a good example of Christian activism.

Harvey got permission for her to sing/speak in order to address "X" knowing full well he would use her presence to address "Y" knowing also full well if he had not been deceitful in his request neither would be granted. I don't buy into deceit for any reason. As a practical matter it means that, in the future, people don't trust me to do as I say I'm going to do.

In discussions, I remind people all the time that my presence here is because I was not aborted in 1957 and it's a little harder to support abortion when you have to look someone in the eye and say "I wish you had never been born".

You said:.

They didn't get as upset with her presence as you have.

Harvey said:

I then walked back to my chair shaking like a leaf. The Democrats wouldn't look at me. They were fuming. It was beautiful. I have been in the Legislature for five tough years, and this made it all worthwhile..

The House majority leader wouldn't talk to me the rest of the day.


Your statement is not supported by Harvey's statement.
106 posted on 06/28/2006 4:53:38 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Havok

Oops, I agree!

Hate those typos.


107 posted on 06/28/2006 4:58:32 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Delphinium
My point is that if your faith informs your politics you will never hear a peep out of me. Work for your candidate and I'll take my hat off to you. But I think if Christians want to retain the moral high ground then they should avoid anything that smacks of deceit, deception or dirty tricks never mind lawbreaking.
108 posted on 06/28/2006 4:58:39 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: FJ290

**Christians at times have had to be bold to get a chance to even be heard. **

Absolutely! And we may soon see Christians persecuted like they currently are in China.


109 posted on 06/28/2006 5:00:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Locomotive Breath; NYer

My point still stands that if Harvey had told the legislature that Gianna would be speaking about abortion (being an abortion survivor and all), the legislature would have flat-out denied him the opportunity.

And you have to admit, his anti-abortion viewpoint wouldn't have been enforced as well without the aid of Gianna, a survivor of abortion.


110 posted on 06/28/2006 5:01:02 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Salvation

Wow, awesome story!


111 posted on 06/28/2006 5:11:30 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Harvey said:

I then walked back to my chair shaking like a leaf. The Democrats wouldn't look at me. They were fuming. It was beautiful. I have been in the Legislature for five tough years, and this made it all worthwhile..

The House majority leader wouldn't talk to me the rest of the day.

Granted, but you left out that "Ironically, Alice Madden, the majority leader and sponsor of the Planned Parenthood resolution, walked over to Gianna and congratulated her."

Looks like the majority leader got over her mad long enough to congratulate this young woman.

And.. it looks like the only ones that got mad were the Democrats. See anywhere where he says the Republicans were fuming mad?

Personally, I could care less if the Democrats got angry. They are a party that supports killing the innocent, taxing you death (I live in a state that is run by Dems and my taxes are eating me alive)and homosexual supporters. It's about time somebody held up a mirror to them to show them what they support is an aberrant crime. They are the real criminals, IMO. They aid and abet the killing of millions of innocent life every year. I bet they did get mad. The truth hurts.

112 posted on 06/28/2006 5:18:20 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Salvation
Absolutely! And we may soon see Christians persecuted like they currently are in China.

Although we aren't to the level that the Chinese Christians face, we are certainly under the gun in this country. God has been taken out of our public schools, the Ten Commandments are being torn down and taken away from public squares. Every Christmas, Christian symbolism is being attacked and taken away from the public arena. Many television programs mock Jesus Christ and Christians. If you speak your personal convictions you may face losing your job like the Catholic the other day that spoke out against homosexuality in Maryland.

It's getting kind of scary here in America lately.

113 posted on 06/28/2006 5:27:35 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Locomotive Breath
don't believe you can convince anyone of the righteousness of your cause by dirty tricks.

You evidently admire reason and deliberation, despite your breath. So please do it slowly and carefully for me. What was the trick, what was dirty about it?

And as you answer, I guess I'd like to see the consideration that the liberals, when they gain a significant strength in a deliberative assembly, tend to work the parliamentary rules as strongly as they can, with no regard to equity, to make their point, and to stifle the opposition. And when the rules don't work for them, when wondering what the meaning is "is" is begins to fail, they'll cheat in a heartbeat. And lives are at stake here.

In the face of such tactics, should a Christian say that his principles prevent him from protecting the innocent and helpless and consequently he will let the liberals dominate the conversation? Did Jesus, Amos, or Jeremiah take that approach? Did St. Peter when he preached in opposition to the plain decree of the Sanhedrin? Did Luther, or Wycliffe?

Clearly I don't think so, and I don't think getting rolled by liberals is always a moral duty.

114 posted on 06/28/2006 5:37:02 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Christians want to retain the moral high ground then they should avoid anything that smacks of deceit, deception or dirty tricks never mind lawbreaking.

What happens when Christianity is outlawed, and Bibles banned?

Will you break the law?

In Hitlers Germany would have you hidden Jews?

Please answer those questions?
115 posted on 06/28/2006 5:51:12 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Salvation

For those who allow themselves to be instruments in God's hands: thank you for your courage and strength which comes from a desire to listen and obey Him, our Creator.


116 posted on 06/28/2006 6:02:00 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Locomotive Breath
"So it's OK for Christians to lie in pursuit of a political agenda?"

What lie?

117 posted on 06/28/2006 6:06:46 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: John Lenin
I came across a story once, about a Catholic priest named Padre Pio (I think that was his name) who had a spiritual gift of prophesying, especially during confession -- he could tell when the penitent was holding back from confessing a sin.

Anyway, the story goes that he was hearing a young woman's confession, and after she finished, he told her gently that she had not confessed *everything*. She hesitated, but then admitted that she had had an abortion.

After he said the words of absolution, she asked him if he knew what would have become of her unborn baby. "My child," he said, "Your son would have become the pope."

118 posted on 06/28/2006 6:22:01 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Salvation

Very uplifting story about an admirable young lady and a courageous politician.

Thanks,
jm


119 posted on 06/28/2006 6:34:01 PM PDT by JockoManning (http://www.gravityteen.com)
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To: Salvation

This story is so awesome. This guy had alot of courage. Good for him and Gianna.


120 posted on 06/28/2006 6:35:39 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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