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Nuclear Power's Missing Fuel (we'll get the first six reactors, construction starting by 2010)
BusinessWeekOn Line ^ | 29 June 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 6:27:17 AM PDT by IrishMike

Why Wall Street Is Skeptical Of Backing A New Round Of Proposed Nuke Plants ?

Nuclear power is hot. Sixteen utilities have expressed intentions to build up to 25 new reactors across the U.S. Just last month, NRG Energy (NRG) in Princeton, N.J., unveiled plans to invest $5.2 billion in two new reactors at an existing atomic plant near Houston.

It's a nuclear renaissance, right? Not yet. While smart money is placing multibillion-dollar bets on ethanol, wind power, and solar, it's not throwing buckets of cash at nukes. "The real obstacle isn't the Sierra Club but the 28-year-old analysts on Wall Street," says Bob Simon, Democratic staff director of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee.

Regulators could balk if proposed designs don't meet construction and safety standards. But memories of the delays, titanic cost overruns, and bankruptcies that ended America's love affair with nuclear power in the mid-20th century are the most daunting obstacle. "Investors remain wary of construction risks," says Paul Ho, a director at Credit Suisse First Boston's (CSR) energy group.

LONG MEMORIES.

That's why, five or so years from now, when the first construction and operating licenses are likely to be granted, only the most creditworthy diversified players, such as Duke Energy (DUK) and Southern Co., would be likely to dip a toe in these waters, explains Denise Furey, senior director of global power with Fitch Ratings. With their scale, such companies could finance these projects for a decade or so using some combination of debt and equity. But that's a far cry from a new nuclear age.

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1 posted on 06/29/2006 6:27:19 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike
But memories of the delays, titanic cost overruns, and bankruptcies

And what was it that caused these delays, etc.?

Oh, yes:

the Sierra Club and the rest of the environMENTAL patients.

2 posted on 06/29/2006 6:33:03 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I am sympathetic with the concerns.
Here in Indiana, we had to scrap Marble Hill.
I can't remember exactly why.
I do remember that it was $5.2 billion down the drain.


3 posted on 06/29/2006 6:49:04 AM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: ArrogantBustard
the Sierra Club and the rest of the environMENTAL patients.

Don't give them the credit. They were only bumps in the road.

4 posted on 06/29/2006 6:52:57 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: ArrogantBustard
the Sierra Club and the rest of the environMENTAL patients

That and substandard work by overpaid goonion workers.......

Watts Bar, a nuke plant owned by TVA, about 30 miles up the road from me, was plagued by poor workmanship and it's commissioning was delayed significantly as a result. Another nuke plant, Widows Creek, about 30 miles the other direction was never commissioned to go nuclear because of problems with workmanship. WC has since been converted to a coal fired plant.

5 posted on 06/29/2006 6:54:05 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: IrishMike

Building two plants "near Houston" would indicate South Texas Project (closer to Corpus actually) would go from 2 plants to 4 plants.


6 posted on 06/29/2006 6:55:03 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: OmahaFields
I remember the screeching and hollering against the Davis-Besse plant in Ohio. I knew a few guys (physics students at a particular private university in Ohio) who worked as interns there.

It burns coal. All their (and lots of fully degreed and licenced Engineers) work went down the crapper.

7 posted on 06/29/2006 6:56:57 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
D-B is nuclear-fueled. The Zimmer station on the Ohio River was originally planned as a nuke, but got switched to coal when the intervenors finally delayed it so much that it was not economical to continue the nuclear project.

An ironic aftermath is that now the residents downwind from the Zimmer coal-fired plant are complaining about the air pollution from it. I told people at the time the decision was made to scrap the nuke that this would happen, but nobody listened to me. I say let them choke. You reap what you sow.

8 posted on 06/29/2006 7:01:20 AM PDT by chimera
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To: IrishMike
Interesting. Callaway Nuclear plant has been in Central Missouri for a long time and I can not recall ever hearing about any problems there.

We need more like that.

9 posted on 06/29/2006 7:01:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Thermalseeker

(Marble Hill) In the original proposal, the estimated cost was a little over $1 billion to build the twin 1130 MWe Westinghouse reactors at the Marble Hill site. Construction began in 1977 and by 1984, costs had skyrocketed and production was shut down. $7-$8 billion had been put into the project and at that time the project was estimated to be only 20% complete. The main problem with the project was the financing. Huge loans were taken out and the interest grew rapidly. Any delay cost millions of dollars, since more time literally meant more money. Problems with workmanship by general contractor Newburg Construction led to many man-hours and therefore many dollars being spent chipping away “honeycombs” (air pockets) in the concrete of the containment building and then re-pouring the concrete.


10 posted on 06/29/2006 7:02:42 AM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: chimera

Dang ... the passage of time sure screws around with the memory, doesn't it?


11 posted on 06/29/2006 7:10:53 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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There are many radioactive elements in coal. A coal burning plant emits much more radiation into the environment than a nuclear plant.

The disposal of nuclear waste is not an engineering problem. It is a political problem made by the Luddite left and enviro wacko's.

GE and the French have nuclear reactor designs that are safe and than have ran for decades safely. The meltdown at Three Mile Island was the result of idiocy. Designs can be made that are melt down proof. You assume a meltdown scenario but make the reactor in a manner that it goes sub critical if a melt down sequence occurs. That is not hard to design. The meltdown of the reactor and subsequent release of massive radiation was the result of poor reactor design and something that goes far past idiocy by those running the reactor.
12 posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:00 AM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Building two plants "near Houston" would indicate South Texas Project (closer to Corpus actually) would go from 2 plants to 4 plants.
.............Interesting


13 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:38 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: OmahaFields
"The main problem with the project was the financing. Huge loans were taken out and the interest grew rapidly. Any delay cost millions of dollars, since more time literally meant more money. "

And the eco-fanatics know this VERY well, which is why they file dozens of frivolous lawsuits to delay, delay, delay.

"Problems with workmanship by general contractor Newburg Construction led to many man-hours and therefore many dollars being spent chipping away “honeycombs” (air pockets) in the concrete of the containment building and then re-pouring the concrete."

This may indeed be true, but I'll bet a much larger fraction of the cost was those frivolous lawsuits by the eco-fanatic groups.

14 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: cpdiii
You assume

WTF??? I assume nothing ... I never even discussed that matter. Beyond that, you're preaching to the choir. ;'} I've been a big-time nuke proponent for ... well ... ever since I was old enough to understand what a "Power Plant" is.

15 posted on 06/29/2006 7:15:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: cpdiii

We'll have a couple dozen built in the next 25 years. Our commuter cars will be electric, plugged in for a recharge overnight.


16 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Thermalseeker

"Watts Bar, a nuke plant owned by TVA, about 30 miles up the road from me, was plagued by poor workmanship and it's commissioning was delayed significantly as a result. Another nuke plant, Widows Creek, about 30 miles the other direction was never commissioned to go nuclear because of problems with workmanship. WC has since been converted to a coal fired plant."

Do you remember the abandoned reactor in Hartsville? What a waste. I knew some union welders and pipefitters up there that stood around for most of the day doing nothing.


17 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: ArrogantBustard

Not to mention hyped and mythical nucyouler disasters, and any idiot that thinks wind, ethanol and solar, are going to do anything for future energy needs, is, well, an idiot. Many of our US navy ships are noocyouler. It is the best technology ready for the future, there isn't anything on the horizon that is even close to production. Newquler hasn't been sitting still either, the technology and safety have made significant progress in the last thirty years.


18 posted on 06/29/2006 7:23:08 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: ArrogantBustard
the Sierra Club and the rest of the environMENTAL patients.

Don't forget unions. During the construction of WNP-2 in Wa state, two painters got mad and started picketing a gate. All unions working that day honored the picketers and work was shut down a full day.

19 posted on 06/29/2006 7:24:51 AM PDT by philo
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To: IrishMike

Forget investing in alternative energy stocks. Buy uranium mining and processing companies.


20 posted on 06/29/2006 7:29:38 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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