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Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials (SCOTUS rules against President)
Fox News & AP ^ | June 29, 2006

Posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Edited on 06/29/2006 7:41:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Breaking...


Update:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.

Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.

The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; chiefjustice; clubgitmo; congress; constitution; cotus; detainees; dta; georgewbush; gitmo; guantanamo; guantanamobay; gwot; hamdan; judicialanarchy; judicialreview; judicialreviewsux; judiciary; president; presidentbush; ruling; scotus; supremecourt; usconstitution; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 06/29/2006 7:11:54 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Court rules president overstepped his authority in trying terrorists held at Gitmo... more...


2 posted on 06/29/2006 7:12:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The Chief Justice RECUSED himself!


3 posted on 06/29/2006 7:12:56 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: pabianice

The Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that President Bush did not have authority to set up the war crimes tribunals at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and found the "military commissions" illegal under both military justice law and the Geneva convention.


4 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:06 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: pabianice

How many soldiers does the Supreme Court have?


5 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Jack Bauer" is Arabic for "I'm f*cked.")
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To: pabianice

Bad news. The SCOTUS f****d up, BIG TIME.


6 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:17 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pabianice

So, what happens now?


7 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:25 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: pabianice

There you have it...


8 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:34 AM PDT by Dog (The founders gave freedom of the press to the people, they didn't give freedom to the press.)
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To: goodnesswins
The Chief Justice RECUSED himself!

He had to. It was his decision they were ruling on.

9 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:37 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: pabianice

What an outrage. Big win for democrats.


10 posted on 06/29/2006 7:13:56 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: pabianice

I don't like lawyers.


11 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:03 AM PDT by Vision ("America's best days lie ahead. You ain't seen nothing yet"- Reagan)
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To: pabianice

You beat me by 15 seconds or so!


12 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:08 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: pabianice
SCOTUS rules:

1. President had no authority to set-up military commissions without Congressional approval.

2. May have violated Geneva Convention

3. SCOTUS has authority to rule on this case

13 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:08 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

How were the individual justices divided?


14 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:09 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: pabianice

Great, just frigging great.


15 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:27 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: IMRight

Yes.....and that's probably why it went the way it did....so sad....


16 posted on 06/29/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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To: goodnesswins

Kennedy reportedly sided with the four Leftists on the Court.


17 posted on 06/29/2006 7:15:46 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: IMRight
found the "military commissions" illegal under both military justice law and the Geneva convention.

Yes ...but they are not covered by the Geneva convention.

18 posted on 06/29/2006 7:15:49 AM PDT by Dog (The founders gave freedom of the press to the people, they didn't give freedom to the press.)
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To: goodnesswins
Hallelujah!!! Let's chain the moslem bastards together and then push 'em into the ocean!!!
19 posted on 06/29/2006 7:15:49 AM PDT by chadwimc
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To: pabianice

Take the Gitmo prisoners and move them into the SCOTUS members neighborhood and give them welfare and food stamps too. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


20 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:04 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pabianice

Well, Bush has no reason to fear the next "big one"...he's done what he can but every tool to deal with a ruthless enemy is being stripped away.


21 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:06 AM PDT by zarf (It's not a question.....)
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To: pabianice

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana


22 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: pabianice

Damn it!!


23 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:12 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Down with Half-Assery!)
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May have violated Geneva Convention

This seems the most outrageous..... We cannot win this war if we must rely on the Courts to fight it with us. I can't wait to hear Dr Levin tonight on this abomination.

24 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Ron in Acreage

And the terrorists. And the lawyers. Oh! Wait!

Same thing.....you got it right.


25 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:21 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

It seems to me that the idiots have just ruled on having our military never take enemy combatants prisoner again. There will be no such animal in the future. Amen.


26 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:24 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: CholeraJoe

Let's wait for the details.


27 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:26 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Jrabbit
All the detainees are going to be shipped back to a Country that will deal with them harshly?

And if that happens do you the detainees will want to declare asylum?

28 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:44 AM PDT by thingumbob (Democracy is the best defense against terrorist/communist thugs!)
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To: Constitution Day

From now on we should kill them all where they stand.


29 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:47 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: pabianice

First the eminent domain ruling, now this. Unbelievable. WTF are they thinking?


30 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:50 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: pabianice

Impeach the Supreme Court.


31 posted on 06/29/2006 7:16:57 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Dog
Yes ...but they are not covered by the Geneva convention.

Of course they are.

32 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:06 AM PDT by IMRight
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To: IMRight

How do they figure the detainees are covered under the Geneva convention?


33 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:08 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Screw the DEMS...the American people got screwed here....what the hell do we do with people caught on the battlefield?


34 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:15 AM PDT by Dog (The founders gave freedom of the press to the people, they didn't give freedom to the press.)
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To: pabianice
2. May have violated Geneva Convention

May have? Many of the people caught were not wearing a uniform.

35 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:16 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: pabianice

Important to wait for details . . . MSM reported Texas redistricting decision the other day as win for Dems at first . . . turned out to be the opposite . . .


36 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:35 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: pabianice

Okay. No more prisoners.

Leave them dead on the battlefield.


37 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:38 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: bnelson44

Court: "These are not prisoners of war and thus immune from military prosecution" ... WTF??


38 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:38 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: goodnesswins
Yes.....and that's probably why it went the way it did....so sad....

It would have still been 5-4.

39 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:41 AM PDT by IMRight
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Oh man this is going to make all the Bush hating leftists and the Bush hating media drool with glee! DAMN!!!


40 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:51 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Right on. Take no prisoners!


41 posted on 06/29/2006 7:17:54 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: IMRight

No they are not....they are freaking TERRORISTS.


42 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:01 AM PDT by Dog (The founders gave freedom of the press to the people, they didn't give freedom to the press.)
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To: pabianice

FNS

Opinion being read on SC bench currently, so it is not available yet.

SC actually has reversed the Roberts decision when Roberts was on the DC Circuit Court.

SC decision does not rule to close Gitmo. It just says it is illegal to have it. [huh?]


43 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:25 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: pabianice

If it is 5-3, with Roberts recused then this, in reality, is not really a surprise and no big deal. Of course, the MSM and the Left will put it forth as proof that Bush is out of control. Let them. When they live in their fantasy world, they lose elections.


44 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:25 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Brilliant

I'd prefer to know a lot more about the ruling and the ramifications before coming to that conclusion.


45 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:40 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: pabianice

Predictable, Scalia already made his views clear. Sad but predictable. Congress needs to act now.


46 posted on 06/29/2006 7:18:44 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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Idiots.

Guess it's time to adopt - Take no prisoners.

47 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!)
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To: IMRight
illegal under both military justice law and the Geneva convention

The Geneva Convention does NOT apply to these terrorists!!

48 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:09 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Dog

Democrats want them to have citizenship and voting rights.


49 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:10 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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To: b4its2late

OK Line them up and shot the lot of them.


50 posted on 06/29/2006 7:19:28 AM PDT by Dog (The founders gave freedom of the press to the people, they didn't give freedom to the press.)
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