Stark finally reveals the Democrats' Iraq plan:
There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said.
The Iraqis will realize its stupid to keep killing each other, Stark said. They will come back to a stabilized society.
And the Democrats' plan to control illegal immigration:
Well, we could gas them? We could throw them all in prison.
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To: counterpunch
Fortney "Pete" Stark is the stark raving Dhimmicrat from California's 13th District.
2 posted on
07/01/2006 2:16:44 AM PDT by
Beckwith
(The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
To: counterpunch
There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said. Sure, he's right about that. But the whole point of staying is to help build up the Iraqis we want to stay in control of Iraq by stacking the deck in their favor with training, native troop numbers, and institutional history. Factors that the cut and run, anti-war idiots seem to overlook.
There's also the fact that no non-extremist government is going to be popular with the terrorists, and that as long as their are extremists, there will be terrorism against secular, Christian, and moderate governments and societies.
3 posted on
07/01/2006 2:17:34 AM PDT by
coconutt2000
(NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
To: counterpunch
Stark, the author who wrote his opinions and their publisher are so irrelevant, that conservative site readers shouldn't be bothered with their anti-defense, anti-American material.
If there's too much trouble in Iraq, taking Iran's leaders and military forces down will solve it. The area is a good base of operations from which to win the War on Terror.
4 posted on
07/01/2006 2:24:56 AM PDT by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: counterpunch
Pete StarkThat's all I had a read. He's a f'ing loon.
5 posted on
07/01/2006 2:26:53 AM PDT by
csvset
("It was like the hand of G_d slapping down and smashing everything." ~ JDAM strikes Taliban)
To: counterpunch
"Stark Says Stop the Stupid War" I hope the voters stop the stupid Stark.
6 posted on
07/01/2006 2:50:07 AM PDT by
Enterprise
(Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
To: counterpunch
For those of you who have been in the service, said the Air Force veteran, its called about face. Gee - how about another command...."Stand Fast!"
8 posted on
07/01/2006 3:10:05 AM PDT by
Tennessee_Bob
("Those who "abjure" violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.")
To: counterpunch
Stick it Stark where the sun don't shine!
To: counterpunch
The Iraqis will realize its stupid to keep killing each other, Stark said. They will come back to a stabilized society.. . . which is run by people loyal to the winners, either Saddam Hussein or Osamma ben Laden or both. Iraq was so "stable" under Hussein that 4% of the population was killed and 10% of the population emigrated in terror. And Stark wants Iraq - wants all of the middle east - run by people who identify America with Bill Clinton - vain, self absorbed, narcissistic and ineffectual. People who think that, the number and quality of our weapons and our military personnel notwithstanding, we can be conquered because we will collapse if pushed. People, IOW, who see the United States in essentially the same terms that Ronald Reagan saw the USSR.
10 posted on
07/01/2006 3:30:07 AM PDT by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
To: counterpunch
There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said.
Yeah, just like in Vietnam.
What a loser this guy is!
11 posted on
07/01/2006 3:50:11 AM PDT by
proudmilitarymrs
(It's not immigration, it's an invasion!)
To: counterpunch
its called about face. it's also called "retreat" and if put in the proper context it would be just like in the Monty Python movie "The Holy Grail", "Run away, run Away".
13 posted on
07/01/2006 3:56:59 AM PDT by
strange1
("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
To: counterpunch
or what were fighting for?
This guy is really stupid, how did he get this job? Was he in a comma on 9/11?
15 posted on
07/01/2006 4:29:15 AM PDT by
garylmoore
(Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I read this after your timely post about the mind of terrorists and just have to wonder if the liberal think is just a coincidence.
To: counterpunch
What would we do with the 10 to 12 million people who would probably vote for democrats?
Thats what worries stark and his cronies .
Of course the first thing is we bring this border crossing thing to a screeching halt., The we start sending illegals back whenever and wherever they are found, and fining their employers.
17 posted on
07/01/2006 4:58:11 AM PDT by
sgtbono2002
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: counterpunch
"There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said."
Just as there was 'some violence' in Vietnam when we last followed the democrat strategy.
18 posted on
07/01/2006 5:05:34 AM PDT by
DugwayDuke
(Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
To: counterpunch
Peter Stark is an utter moron who has obviously gone senial. Hey Pete, 9-11-01. Grow up you super stupid twit. It is NOT 1971 and this is NOT Vietnam.
19 posted on
07/01/2006 5:07:20 AM PDT by
MNJohnnie
(Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
To: counterpunch
Kalifornian's have got to be proud of the "pile of crap"...they keep reelecting him to office!
20 posted on
07/01/2006 5:07:25 AM PDT by
harpu
( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
To: counterpunch
...due to malfeasance in the VA, though. They just screwed up, he said.
You say tomato, I say tomato.
21 posted on
07/01/2006 5:29:28 AM PDT by
carumba
(The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
To: counterpunch
35 years later the same lies, the same Treason. These twits really are stuck in 1971. Here is Stark now.
****Snip******
"Stark finally reveals the Democrats' Iraq plan: There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said. The Iraqis will realize it's stupid to keep killing each other,Stark said. They will come back to a stabilized society."
****Snip*****
Here is John Kerry's 1971 Testimony before the US Senate about probable impact of US leaving Vietnam.
http://www.c-span.org/2004vote/jkerrytestimony.asp
***Snip****
"Mr. Kerry: Well, I think if we were to replace the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime and offer these men sanctuary somewhere, which I think this Government has an obligation to do since we created that government and supported it all along. I think there would not be any problems. The number two man at the Saigon talks to Ambassador Lam was asked by the Concerned Laymen, who visited with them in Paris last month, how long they felt they could survive if the United States would pull out and his answer was 1 week. So I think clearly we do have to face his question. But I think, having done what we have done to that country, we have an obligation to offer sanctuary to the perhaps 2,000, 3,000 people who might face, and obviously they would, we understand that, might face political assassination or something else. But my feeling is that those 3,000 who may have to leave that country."
*****Snip******
So not only are the Democrat Party Leadership reliving History, they have learned NOTHING from their own personal history. Millions dead, millions of refuges after the Fall of Saigon means NOTHING to these super morons.
22 posted on
07/01/2006 5:35:01 AM PDT by
MNJohnnie
(Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
To: counterpunch
Stark . . . . hmmmmm . . . Stark . . .
Be patient . . . it's coming . . .
Ahhhhhh, yes, the picture forms more clearly . . .
Render him stark naked and ride him out of town on a rail. Methinks that would fit Stark's starkly ignorant postulations very well.
24 posted on
07/01/2006 5:46:58 AM PDT by
Quix
(PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
To: counterpunch
"There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said.
The Iraqis will realize its stupid to keep killing each other, Stark said. They will come back to a stabilized society.
Just like when we left the South Vietnamese to the communists, Right Pete?
Idiot liberal. How anybody could trust these nut cases with national security is beyond me.
27 posted on
07/01/2006 7:55:33 AM PDT by
headstamp
(Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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