13 initiatives face California voters in November

Scripps News ^ | July 1, 2006 | PETER HATCH

[FairOpinion]

California voters will be asked to decide on potential record increases in state spending, including major public works programs and new taxes, under initiatives approved for the November ballot.

Mark DiCamillo, director of the California Poll, said the five bonds simultaneously on the ballot will make it difficult for voters to decide what public works programs the state should undertake and how much debt it should incur.

Another measure, Proposition 87, would spend $4 billion on a program to reduce oil and gas consumption by 25 percent by promoting energy efficient technologies and research and production incentives for alternative fuel vehicles. It would be funded by a 1.5 percent to 6 percent tax per barrel of oil on producers of oil extracted in California.

Proposition 88 would seek to increase K-12 school funding by charging a $50 tax on each real property parcel in California. The measure, which would exempt certain elderly and disabled homeowners, would raise up to $500 million annually for public school programs.

[Moral Hazard]

"This is about sexual predators who molest and murder children.

Do you think they should be allowed to be let out and do it again?

I personally think they should be executed, or at least locked up their entire lives.

But if they are let out, we need to have a means of keeping track of them -- there is a virtual 100% recidivism amongst these people."

I think you need to better define who "they" are. The recidivism rate for "sex offenders" is significantly lower than the recidivism rate for criminals as a whole.

[monkeyshine]

Does it require a 2/3 vote to pass?

[jocko12]

So far I only see 13 to vote no on.

[KTM rider]

13 initiatives = 13 tricks by the CA legislature to embezzle more $ for pet projects that have absolutly nothing to do with the original initiative description

[goldstategop]

Here's my take: vote NO to the following propositions:

1A

1B-E

Proposition 84

Proposition 86

Proposition 87

Proposition 88

Proposition 89

Vote YES for these:

Proposition 83

Proposition 85

Proposition 90

There three conservative initiatives on the ballot. The rest simply borrow more money, which we don't need, increase your taxes, which we don't need either, or put politicians on the taxpayer dole with public financing of their political campaigns, which is really the motherlode of wallet-grabbing measures on the ballot. So now people know how they ought to vote come November.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

[KTM rider]

prop 90 is not about eminent domain seizures, it is about maintaining property tax staus for seniors in order to encourage them to move to more remote areas....another example of the California "ballot initiative" shell game

[goldstategop]

It requires a simple majority to pass. There are ten liberal measures on the ballot that deserve to be voted down because they increase the debt, raise taxes, and put politicians on the government dole. The only good stuff is Jessica's Law that locks up sexual predators, the parental notification intiative, which requires parents to be notified when a child of their gets an abortion and a measure that strengthens private property rights by restricting the government's eminent domain powers. Vote YES only for those three and NO on the rest.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

[calcowgirl]

I'm pretty close to your take:

Proposition 1A: NO (more formulas and they can still suspend Prop 42)
Proposition 1B: NO (Pork Ridden)
Proposition 1C: HELL NO! (Need I say more?)
Proposition 1D: NO (Enforce the immigration laws instead)
Proposition 1E: NO (Pork Ridden)
Proposition 83: Probably (Want to read the fine print)
Proposition 84: NO
Proposition 85: Probably (Want to read the fine print)
Proposition 86: HELL NO!
Proposition 87: HELL NO!
Proposition 88: HELL NO!
Proposition 89: NO
Proposition 90: YES!

[pointsal]

Because Californians have allowed a permanent "public" servant class of politians and bureaucrates to grab control of all the power levers.... we are doomed

[calcowgirl]

prop 90 is not about eminent domain seizures, it is about maintaining property tax staus for seniors in order to encourage them to move to more remote areas....

How would it do that?

Initiative Language from www.protectourhomes2006.com

Tom McClintock, the Pacific Legal Foundation, and other strong property rights activists are all behind this. Are you saying there is a downside?

[calcowgirl]

So far I only see 13 to vote no on.

Eminent Domain (#90) and Parental Notification (#85) seem worthy of a YES vote, don't they?

There are, however, MANY initiatives that will motivate me to go to the polls and vote NO! lol

[Joan Kerrey]

representatives to Sacramento? Aren't they suuposed to be making these decisions?

I'd prefer that the reps on Sacramento not make any decisions ever on anything. We'd all be bankrupt if they did. Those folks would do us all a favor of never voting on anything and stay home.

[sheana]

The gas tax we pay in California goes into a fund that is used just like the Social Security funds. They use the tax to fund anything they want.

[Joan Kerrey]

I could possibly vote yes on 4 of the propositions [1a, 1c, 83, 85] but a definite NO on the other 9.

When it comes to bonds issues and/or spending on anything you'll almost always do well by voting them down. Even the reasonable sounding issues will end up favoring the demo machine and it is very likely that the reasonable sounding issue won't get a dime.

[Joan Kerrey]

Vote no on EVERYTHING. Sacramento takes in far too much money as it is. The little piggies can make do with the teats they already have.

Absolutely correct.

NO on all of them.

[sheana]

Then we need to fire them all, take away their taxpayer funded SUV's, per diem, etc., etc.
I agree, I am sick to death of voting on all this crap because the legislators, duly elected, and paid a huge salary will NOT do their jobs. What the heck are they drawing those huge salaries for?

[CdMGuy]

Mexico's contribution to California - Fabian Nunez

That's right folks, the Speaker of the California State Assembly, Fabian Nunez, is a native of Tijuana, Mexico.

You don't have to look any farther to see what is wrong in Sacramento. Nunez, Cedillo, Calderon, Romero, and the rest of the Mexican Mafia milking California dry.

Vote NO on ALL Bond and Tax raising propositions.

[monkeyshine]

I agree with you in fact, but in point of principle that is the job of the legislature. What we need is a more principled legislature with the cajones to allocate resources as necessary for the betterment of the state, instead of lockboxing 95% of the budget and then complaining they don't have any discretionary funds for important projects.

We in this state really need to roll back the tide all the way to Pat Brown. First, we should pass a school choice initiative. We can get a coalition of minority groups and conservatives to make this happen. And we can do it nicely, in such a way that would releive the burden on tenured teachers by selling off public school properties to buy out teachers' contracts.

If we do that, we cut off the ankles of the Democratic Party here in California by taking away on of their key demagogue consituencies.

[calcowgirl]

You'll vote for homeless shelters and farmworker housing? (1C)

[Redcloak]

My wife and I have a simple rule: If it's a bond issue, vote no. We don't bother with whatever glorious and noble purpose the initiative is supposed to have; it's a shell game anyway. The money goes into the budget on one end and get diverted out to what the politicos really wanted on the other. The budget stays the same and extra money magically becomes available in the budget for the politicos spend on crap the voters would never approve.