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If Iran gets the bomb
Golden Carp Awards ^ | July 2, 2006 | Stan Janiak

Posted on 07/02/2006 6:07:01 AM PDT by PolishProud

Attention MS President. We have placed nuclear suitcase bombs and dirty bombs in five major US cities. We will not detonate these bombs under the following conditions: 1) The US must not interfere with Iran's treatment of Israel 2) All Jews must leave Israel and all facilities must be turned over to us intact. 3) The US must withdraw from Iraq within 60 days. If these conditions are not met, we will detonate one bomb. If Israel or the US uses nuclear or conventional weapons against us, we will detonate all bombs. Checkmate.

It wasn't a light bulb that went off in my head -- it was a like a thousand halogen headlights. Iran will get the bomb and there is nothing we can do.

The MSM has so denigrated the Bush administration and the Iraq war that future presidents will be unable to act to protect the country.

Thanks to the liberal media, we have lost the will to risk lives to protect our freedom. Not until thousands of Americans have been killed will a president once more be given power to protect the country.

In the above scenario, bombs and Iranian suicide bombers have been smuggled in from Mexico. Since the New York Times's expose' of terrorist phone call monitoring and money transfers, terrorist now rely on couriers for coordination.

Meanwhile the EU, influenced by their growing Moslem populations, will do nothing. Russia will welcome the US emasculation with plans to supplement the US as the dominate world power. Russia, free of any democratic constraints, has no doubt it can match the ruthlessness of the Islamofascists at a later date, as Hitler once did to them.

The Democrat president tried to negotiate with Iran using the failed Clinton North Korea policy template, but Iran's bomb isn't about money, it's about power, pride and religion and the return to the so called "Golden Age of Islam."

Never mind that the Moslem Empire's inherited the knowledge and skills from others - Persia, China, Greece and India. Islam wasn't then and isn't now about science or art, it's about religion.

Where is the Democrat's plan to defeat Islamofracists? Many don't think the Iraq war is really a war. And, of course the scenario above, should it happen, will be blamed on Bush who, as MS Clinton will assert, squandered war support in an unnecessary war. Never mind that we rid the world of an unstable dictator with (be it present or future) WMDs and a motive to use them.

In military strategy, it is crucial that Iraq becomes a democracy where US flanks Iran and secures a source of oil.

What will happen when the Democrats regain power and are faced with the same threats as President Bush? Will they push the problem down the road as Clinton did with North Korea or will they expose their hypocrisy and follow the same path as Bush?

Considering their ownership by the antiwar fanatics, my guess is, they will wait for the next 9/11 to force them to take the same actions for which they now so vehemently criticize Bush.

How reprehensible it will be, if Democrats cure their hypocrisy with the dead from another 9/11.

It's criminal that the Democrats can't see beyond their thirst for power and their hatred of Bush. A free and properous Iraq is the only defense against the Iranian bomb.


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1 posted on 07/02/2006 6:07:03 AM PDT by PolishProud
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To: PolishProud

Don't give up hope yet. Bush is adamant that Iran not get the bomb. Europe's really not crazy about Iran having a bomb either, after all they are in range.


2 posted on 07/02/2006 6:11:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: PolishProud
Russia will welcome the US emasculation with plans to supplement the US as the dominate world power. Russia, free of any democratic constraints, has no doubt it can match the ruthlessness of the Islamofascists at a later date, as Hitler once did to them.

I'd change "Russia" to "China" in the above sentence. Otherwise, I'd say your scenario is all too easy to imagine.

3 posted on 07/02/2006 6:11:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: PolishProud

Please post this frequently during this holiday weekend and please Moderator let it run. This is the real scare in our lives...not Al Gore's premonition....


4 posted on 07/02/2006 6:23:10 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: PolishProud
How reprehensible it will be, if Democrats cure their hypocrisy with the dead from another 9/11.

Somehow, I don't think that anything will cure the demonrats hypocrisy.

5 posted on 07/02/2006 6:23:58 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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To: PolishProud

There are many in this forum who are so angry with President Bush over illegal immigration that they'll stay home in November. I don't like the White House or Senate stance on immigration either, but I have voted a straight Republican ticket in every election since 9-11 and will continue to do until Islamofascism is defeated.


6 posted on 07/02/2006 6:26:07 AM PDT by RedRover (Dems cannot take the reins of power while there is fighting to be done.)
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To: CPOSharky
Somehow, I don't think that anything will cure the demonrats hypocrisy.

They will blame Bush for not having done enough although they slowly but surely are taking away the tools needed to fight the muzzles. They will take no blame.

7 posted on 07/02/2006 6:27:49 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: RedRover

There's no leadership outside the WH. Frist, Grassley, Lugar; all jokes.


8 posted on 07/02/2006 6:29:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

It's both dude... and one day... when they believe they can win, they will roll the dice.


9 posted on 07/02/2006 6:30:50 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: PolishProud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1613696/posts
Dancing with Uranium


10 posted on 07/02/2006 6:31:27 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: PolishProud
We evacuate all major cities. Then we launch a sufficient nuclear arsenal to turn every square inch of Iran into radioactive glass. Then we rebuild any of our cities destroyed.

Then we fire the head of Homeland Security.

11 posted on 07/02/2006 6:36:59 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: nikos1121
I don't want to diminish the threat of terrorism at all, it is extremely serious, but on a long-term global basis, global warming is the most serious problem we are facing." - Al Gore, 11/13/2005

Link:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/business/gore-makes-sustainable-investment-his-business/2005/11/13/1131816810708.html?page=2&oneclick=true

12 posted on 07/02/2006 6:37:40 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Amnesia is a train of thought.)
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To: RedRover
There is ONLY ONE substitute for complete victory against Islamofascists.

and that is subjugation and dhimmitude.

13 posted on 07/02/2006 6:41:12 AM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: PolishProud

There is a bright side, if one could call it that. Most of the people who have worked the hardest to help Al Queda live in the largest cities. Indirectly, the scenario above might, after all, help the US.


14 posted on 07/02/2006 6:41:21 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: PolishProud
We have placed nuclear suitcase bombs and dirty bombs in five major US cities.

Dear Nutcase: We have found all of your bombs and are returning them and a few extra gifts via express U.S. Air Force air mail. They should be arriving at any moment.

15 posted on 07/02/2006 6:45:57 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: PolishProud

You mean my IPOs will never come in??


16 posted on 07/02/2006 6:52:11 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

There's no leadership outside the WH. Frist, Grassley, Lugar; all jokes.

I don't disagree. But I'll take the worst of our lot over Kennedy, Feingold, and Reid running the show.

17 posted on 07/02/2006 6:53:21 AM PDT by RedRover (Dems must not take the reins of power while there is fighting to be done.)
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To: RedRover
This letter showed up this morning from a friend. At this time it is right to the point on the current subject.




ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS

In brief, Jill Edwards, a junior math major at the University of
Washington, and a member of the UW student senate, opposed a memorial to UW
grad "Pappy" Boyington. Boyington was a U.S. Marine aviator who earned the
Medal of Honor in World War II. Edwards said that she didn't think it was
appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. She also said that a
member of the Marine Corps was NOT an example of the sort of person the
University of Washington wanted to produce.

What follows is Gen. Dula's letter to the University of Washington
student senate leader.


To: Edwards, Jill (student, UW)
Subject: Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs

Miss Edwards, I read of your 'student activity' regarding the proposed
memorial to Col Greg Boyington, USMC and a Medal of Honor winner. I suspect
you will receive a bellyful of angry e-mails from conservative folks like
me. You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations
of servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you and your fellow
students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of youth and your
naiveté.

It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There's no dishonor in being a
sheep - - as long as you know and accept what you are. Please take a couple
of minutes to read the following. And be grateful for the thousands - -
millions - - of American sheepdogs who permit you the freedom to express
even bad ideas.

Brett Dula
Sheepdog, retired


ON SHEEP, WOLVES, AND SHEEPDOGS............................

By LTC(RET) Dave Grossman, RANGER,
Ph.D., author of "On Killing."

Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so
because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things
that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that
may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as
always,even death itself. The question remains:
What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living
for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy
November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:
"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle,
productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is
true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the
aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that
the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another.

Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent
crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record
rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which
means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less
than one in a hundred on any given year.
Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat
offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than
two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation:
We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still
remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who
are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme
provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me, it is like the
pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will
grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard
blue shell.

Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and
someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.
For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves
feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there
who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are
evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you
forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety
in denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to
protect the flock and confront the wolf."

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive
citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for
your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf.

But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your
fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who
is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness,
into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

Let me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep,
wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what
makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the
world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they
want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits
throughout their kids' schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police
officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more
likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but
the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea
of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they
chose the path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the
wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is
that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any
sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished
and removed. The world cannot work any other
way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that
there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them
where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our
airports, in camouflage fatigues, holding an M-16. The sheep would much
rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray
paint himself white, and go, "Baa." Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire
flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough
high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have
had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just
had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and
SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and
hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids
off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the
wolf is at the door.

Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded
hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt
differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel?
Remember how many times you heard the word hero?

Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a
sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog
is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter,
checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and
yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a
righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they
move to the sound of the guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep
pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After
the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens
in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of
those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could
have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference."
When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested
yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make
a difference.

There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but
he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to
survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the
population.

There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted
of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes
of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The
vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language:
Slumped walk, passive behavior and
lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when
they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.

Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically
primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose
which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans
are choosing to become sheepdogs.

Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was
honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was
the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert
an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking.
When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used
as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, "Let's roll,"
which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront
the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation
occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. --
from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately
saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil
of evil men. - Edmund Burke

Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of
police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real
sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves.
They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you
can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.

If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay,
but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your
loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you.
If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to
hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love.
But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you
must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and
prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf
comes knocking at the door.

For example, many officers carry their weapons in church. They are well
concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters
tucked into the small of their backs. Anytime you go to some form of
religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your
congregation is carrying.
You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of
worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the
break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The
other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church" I
asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew
who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident,
a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning
down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved
every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot,
and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die.
That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it
would be to live with yourself after that?"

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer
was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would
probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would
call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars
were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire
sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that
fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards
against them.

Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often
their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog
quietly asks himself, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live
with yourself if your loved ones were attacked and killed, and you had to
stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for
that day?"

It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically
destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is
counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and
horror when the wolf shows up.

Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when
you are not physically prepared: you didn't bring your gun, you didn't
train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy.
Denial kills you a second time because even if you do
physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear,
helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.

Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11
book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms
with our current world situation: "...denial can be seductive, but it has an
insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by
saying it isn't so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all
the more unsettling."

Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in
small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some
level. And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of
his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes.

If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you
step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that
the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime.
Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and
you walk outside without it, just
take a deep breath, and say this to yourself..."Baa."

This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no
dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of
degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on
the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one
end or the other.

Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in
America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a
few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors
started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up
that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you
and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your
moment of truth.
Dave Grossman

"If It Weren't For The United States Military"
"There Would Be NO United States of America"
18 posted on 07/02/2006 6:55:54 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: PolishProud

Eliminating the leadership of Iran and Syria is the only way to a secure Middle East.

Neither political party in this country has the "stones" to do it.

When we pop Shiite heads a good one in Iran, we'll lose what currently looks like a passable democracy in Iraq due to affiliations through their religion.

The best solution is to eliminate all problems at once.....


19 posted on 07/02/2006 6:57:35 AM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: RedRover

With Grassley, Lugar, Frist, we've gotten Kennedy, Feingold and Reid running the place. What's the diff ?


20 posted on 07/02/2006 7:00:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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