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Law targets those with unearned military medals (Stolen Valor Act)(MUST READ)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 7-2-06 | Jason Cato

Posted on 07/02/2006 9:19:26 AM PDT by smoothsailing

 

Law targets those with unearned military medals

By Jason Cato

TRIBUNE-REVIEW

Sunday, July 2, 2006

Marine majors have accomplished plenty in the Corps' 230-year history, but tales from "The Terminator" just didn't add up.

He'd been a SEAL, a sniper and a pilot. His stories were larger than life, and no one at the Soldiers & Sailors National Military Museum and Memorial in Oakland believed him. But it was the Navy Cross pinned to his dress blues that proved too much to stomach.

"He had more battle activity than eight guys together," Ron Gancas, museum president, said about John Eastman, who faces federal charges of impersonating a military officer. "Why he picked this place to B.S. I don't know. Everybody was in the military here."

Eastman, 58, of New Galilee, Beaver County, is accused of falsely wearing a major's insignia at a Veteran's Day function in 2004. He was indicted this year and, if convicted, would face a maximum penalty of six months in prison and a $5,000 fine.

If his outcome is anything like that of another imposter prosecuted this year in Pittsburgh, jail time is unlikely. Albert McKelvey, 68, of Richland, faked being a Marine colonel, presenting neatly folded flags to widows at funerals and delivering inspirational speeches to veterans groups. He paid for his transgressions with a $2,500 fine and probation.

A bill -- the Stolen Valor Act -- making its way through Congress would increase the penalties for imposters and help prosecutors go after phonies....

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 109th; baghdadmurtha; hanoijohnny; kerryslaw; stolenvalor
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To: originalbuckeye
I would love to see community service in a VA hospital say 1000 hours per/fake award and a vest like they have at wal-mart with "Stolen Valor Convict" across the back. and a $2500 fine as a minimum graduated up for level of award
21 posted on 07/02/2006 10:31:41 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ("9 out of the 10 voices in my head told me to go home & clean my weapons!")
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To: PhilipFreneau

Does this mean that I have to quit claiming that I made E-8 in only four years, when actually I made E-4 twice?


22 posted on 07/02/2006 10:48:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: smoothsailing
Nothing disgusts me more than a poseur. Once a proper legal test has been established the penalty should be significant. I'm thinking 5 years.
23 posted on 07/02/2006 11:44:57 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: river rat

I think a big benefit of making it a crime, is that it would force the media to use formal journalistic standards on veterans stories.

Before they could run phony stories like CBS's The"Wall Within", in which one subject claimed to have been a SEAL super assassin in Vietnam at age 16, they would have to verify that their source wasn't committing a criminal act by feeding them lies.

Dan Rather himself did that story, Rather, until he was outed in recent years had posed as a Marine (he isn't)


24 posted on 07/02/2006 12:12:18 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: smoothsailing

Hey, I got my DFC for drinking beer and it's the only decoration I ever got that I value!


25 posted on 07/02/2006 12:19:33 PM PDT by Grut
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To: smoothsailing

Of all places to get causgt as a fake


Try the Vietnam Veterans reunion in Florida. A fool was wearing a trident on his cap. Had one on his car and had a blue and gold T-shirt with one on it. Told us a crock of crap and you could see panic in his face when he found out he was exposed to family and friends. I guess he didn't figure there would be any real SEAL's there.


26 posted on 07/02/2006 1:35:58 PM PDT by USN SIGNL MAN
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To: smoothsailing
"Why he picked this place to B.S. I don't know. Everybody was in the military here."


27 posted on 07/02/2006 1:50:21 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Twenty years in the Navy. Never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: Grampa Dave
" which is short a cup of coffee and maybe more. "

I'd say you still have all your braincells functioning... You brought up two possibilities I hadn't considered, and I'm about 16 years younger than you are, and I'm midway through my second Dr. Pepper of the afternoon...
28 posted on 07/02/2006 1:54:22 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: USN SIGNL MAN; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Well, it's about darned time you showed up around here! You got some buddies lookin' for ya! :-)

(HEY TONK, Look who's here!)

:-)

29 posted on 07/02/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: PhilipFreneau; RaceBannon; IGOTMINE; smoothsailing
the Good Conduct (which everyone received who didn't kill the general). LOL

I don't recall for the other services, but in the Marine Corps the officers were ineligible for the Good Conduct Medal. :-)

30 posted on 07/02/2006 2:14:01 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

>>>I don't recall for the other services, but in the Marine Corps the officers were ineligible for the Good Conduct Medal. :-)<<<

I believe that was true for the Navy, as well.


31 posted on 07/02/2006 2:25:03 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Graybeard58

>>>Does this mean that I have to quit claiming that I made E-8 in only four years, when actually I made E-4 twice?<<<

LOL.


32 posted on 07/02/2006 2:26:00 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: ansel12
It was only recently, that I heard Rather had been claiming to be a Marine...

He apparently based that claim on the fact he reported to boot camp, but was discharged in less than 4 months as being "physically unfit" to be a Marine..

As every puke and whale turd who reported to P.I. learned with seconds - is that you're NOT a Marine until your Senior D.I. welcomes you into HIS Marine Corps immediately AFTER graduation ceremony.

4 months - about he same time Rambo Kerry spent in Vietnam to "earn" his Silver Star and THREE Purple Hearts without bleeding.. Rather has been a purveyer and believer of his own myths for decades... Only in America can a lying, weak, spineless, communist admiring asshole become a wealthy "news" reader..

F'em.

Semper Fi

33 posted on 07/02/2006 2:33:21 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Coop
I don't recall for the other services, but in the Marine Corps officers were ineligible for the Good Conduct Medal.

Same in the Army. I got mine as an enlisted man and was allowed to wear it when I later became an officer.

Some of the best officers I knew had started out as grunts, and to them the GCM was proudly worn.

When you've been both officer and enlisted, you respect the guys who make things happen.

More times than not, it's the sergeants with the stripes, and the officers who respect them.

34 posted on 07/02/2006 2:33:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: smoothsailing
I got mine as an enlisted man and was allowed to wear it when I later became an officer.

Yep, that's how we could tell when the zeroes were worth anything. If they had a Good Conduct medal, you knew they were mustangs (prior enlisted).

Just kiddin'! I worked with some darn fine officers in all services that were able to overcome their lack of enlisted service. :-)

35 posted on 07/02/2006 2:37:42 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: tomnbeverly

And also charged with sedition.


36 posted on 07/02/2006 3:09:43 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: smoothsailing

Oh, oh, John Kerry's in trouble again.


37 posted on 07/02/2006 4:02:48 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Coop
"If they had a Good Conduct medal, you knew they were mustangs (prior enlisted)."

My experience has been that mustangs were either really, really good, or really, really bad. No inbetween at all. Mostly, good, though. Not entirely, though, either.

Having grown up a bit, I suppose I owe Lt. Hoying an apology. I laughed at him when he suggested I should try to go to OCS...although I do think I would have made a LOUSY officer.
38 posted on 07/02/2006 5:28:48 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Graybeard58

LOLOLOL


39 posted on 07/02/2006 5:35:03 PM PDT by patton (...in spit of it all...)
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To: Coop

LOL:)


40 posted on 07/02/2006 5:36:59 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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