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I've never wanted to think Mats Wilander was handsome as I do but I never thought the issue involved something theological . . . |
Posted on 07/02/2006 11:36:15 PM PDT by scripter
A feature published in The Columbus Dispatch (June 11) describes the work of New Pathways Ohio, a ministry affiliated with Exodus International.
The head of New Pathways is headed by Elton L. Moose of Springfield, an ex-gay and one of the charter members of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality. Moose was also a participant in Dr. Robert Spitzer's study of individuals who have dealt with their same-sex attractions.
Columbus Dispatch reporter Rita Price interviewed three men who attend New Pathways in an effort to deal with their unwanted same-sex attractions. David, who only wanted his first name used in the article, told her: "Don't tell me that I have to be gay. Who is the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association, to say that no one can change? Can you be certain there are no white ravens? No, you can't. Not unless you've seen them all."
David continued: "We call ourselves overcomers. We are not defined by our temptations. I'm still a virgin with both genders. If I did less than 1 percent of what went on in my mind, I'd have died of AIDS long ago."
Lynne Bowman, head of Equality Ohio believes that the growth of ex-gay movements is a hindrance to the struggle for gay acceptance. She notes: "It's the only question that matters. People think that if it's a choice, or something that can be changed, then we shouldn't be protecting the rights of those are gay."
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I've never wanted to think Mats Wilander was handsome as I do but I never thought the issue involved something theological . . . |
You have summarized the issues quite well. Some are not interested in the truth that gays can leave the lifestyle and we can see yet another example in post 4.
Indeed. There are degrees of change with some completely leaving the homosexual lifestyle, some struggling but remaining abstinent and some seeing no change, and a number of different combinations.
There is a great article posted here with links to more information: Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences.
That's quite a different scenario from what you mentioned in post 14. Sure, some fail and that's not surprising, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't offer help to those who want change.
As you said, there needs to be a lot more studies on the subject. Unfortunately, radical homosexuals do all they can to stop any work on the subject. Fortunately, as the article says, ex-gay groups are growing and that's a good thing.
good to see you back around. I hadn't seen you post on here in a while.
ping for future reference material
Thanks for posting this, scrip!
This is the core of the matter:
"It's the only question that matters. People think that if it's a choice, or something that can be changed, then we shouldn't be protecting the rights of those are gay."
Thanks. I've been concentrating on a couple of other things and will be involved here in some limited fashion.
Check my profile for more reference material.
That is certainly how I see it. We should not base rights on behavior, and sexual behavior at that.
Because the ex-gay movement is growing we'll see more attempts from radical homosexuals to silence ex-gays. Some folks and organizations have a lot to lose here.
While I can understand from where the radical homosexuals are coming as who wants to lose any political ground they've grabbed in recent years, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't offer help to those who want to leave the homosexual lifestyle.
One would think folks are interested in the truth but truth and politics are unfortunately, rarely found together. :-/
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