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The Fish That Shoots Down Evolution
Vertical Thought Magazine ^ | June 2006 | Mario Seiglie

Posted on 07/04/2006 8:42:50 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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To: freedumb2003
The fact this fish has adapted provides FURTHER PROOF of TToE.

Isn't that circular logic? Because it exists, that proves that evolution is true?

81 posted on 07/04/2006 9:58:31 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Redcloak
On the other hand, to instinct to spit water doesn't get a fish a meal if the water doesn't have the groove to guide it

Unless it starts out eating baby water skimmers.

82 posted on 07/04/2006 9:58:36 AM PDT by donh (U)
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To: DouglasKC; All
---NEWSFLASH FROM PLANET EARTH---

Neither every goldang unusual natural phenomenon nor every strange critter is a dadburn miracle!

If everything is a miracle, then nothing is a miracle. Comprendez? Capiche?

Anyway, Happy 4th of July!

83 posted on 07/04/2006 9:59:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: ccmay
The image that is projected on the retina by the lens of your eye is upside down and backwards. You can prove this by closing your eye, pressing gently on the eyeball at the edges of your eye sockets, and observing where the dark spot in your vision appears. The wiring in your optic nerves and brain corrects for this inversion without your conscious effort.

have you ever done "blind spot" experiments? The ability of the brain to provide missing information, even very complex patterns, freaks me out as much as (or ore than) an episode of "MindFreak."

It is humbling that God created a process (Evolution) that ended up with such a beautifully complex thing such as a human being.

It is sad that CRIDers put handcuffs on the ability of The Almighty.

84 posted on 07/04/2006 9:59:49 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: wbmstr24
you posited a way that is not verifiable, so it is no more than an opinion, not science.

It does not matter, as the initial argument itself is not science, but rather an appeal to a logical fallacy. All that is needed is to show that the claim is false.
85 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:02 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: DouglasKC
You've probably heard this before, but God designed a wide degree of variability into humans and animals so that we could survive in a number of different environments

You're right, and it's called evolution by variation and selection.

86 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:02 AM PDT by donh (U)
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To: DouglasKC
"GOD has built in the compensation."

Here's your answer, once and for all. Ready???

Drum-roll please....

GOD CREATED EVOLUTION!!!!

TA DA!!!

Stop wasting your time worrying about evolution. The theory of evolution is not even a remote threat to faith. Geesh!

87 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:14 AM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: DouglasKC

The Archerfish also has another special significance.

During World War II, the USS Archer-Fish, a submarine, discovered, followed and sunk the mightiest Japanese aircraft carrier ever built, the Shinano. The Shinano, a 72-ton carrier, on its maiden voyage.. was sunk before she ever fired a shot!


88 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:49 AM PDT by Spottys Spurs
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To: Beagle8U
And Darwin is going to explain why chimps never evolved into anything?

Into what should chimps evolve, and why?
89 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:52 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: DouglasKC

That could be. Darwin wrote that 150 years ago. He did not have the means to view rapid evolution like we do today. As I understand, evolution says nothing about origin, that's why I don't understand why creationists have their panties in such a knot.

Why can't creationists also recognize evolution?


90 posted on 07/04/2006 10:00:58 AM PDT by phantomworker (Live life so completely, when death comes like a thief in the night, there is nothing left to steal.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Does that adequately explain why this fish is able to spit at targets?

The existence of God would explain it. Why wouldn't it?

92 posted on 07/04/2006 10:02:41 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: George - the Other
Sciences like stratigraphy and processes like radiometric dating, all based on the laws of physics, laws created by God, show that life on this planet evolved over a period of immense time.

Psssst!

God's messing with your head.

;->

93 posted on 07/04/2006 10:03:14 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

And creationists do know? Is it because God made the earth in seven days? Does that adequately explain why this fish is able to spit at targets?

_________________________

You are asking the wrong question. WHY is never an answerable question. Antecedents are never knowable. Causes expand backward to include an infinity of alternatives.
The only valid question is WHAT. By understanding WHAT the fish is doing we are able to learn HOW it occurs. HOW gives us imagination and invention.
A piece of wood, a spring and 2 or 3 pieces of wire are not a mousetrap. To kill mice is WHAT, unless, that is, you are making a model airplane - another WHAT. In which case HOW is instrumental.
Without thought no amount of random shaking together produces a mousetrap or a model airplane. WHAT is the ineffible force that creates each.


94 posted on 07/04/2006 10:03:25 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: JusPasenThru

Perhaps, if you restricted your arguments to reality rather than absurd strawmen, you would carry more credibility.


95 posted on 07/04/2006 10:03:35 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: DouglasKC
Isn't that circular logic? Because it exists, that proves that evolution is true?

Because it has evolved special skills unique to its environment proves that TToE is true.

But to some degree, TToE says "survivors survive." This is not circular logic -- it is a theory based on the observation on how so many different species under different circumstances physically change over time to adapt to their environment. Those that cannot adapt cease to exist (despite the example of Liberals, but this is over a LONG period of time).

Existence IS proof of TToE.

96 posted on 07/04/2006 10:03:40 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: DouglasKC
A fascinating fish...

No doubt...They apparently can determine trajectory, altitude, velocity, wind speed and direction, speed of the flying bug, as well as anticipate the bug's changes in direction, speed, etc...

They're smarter than I am (no comments please)...

I wonder if anyone's ask them their views on evolution...

97 posted on 07/04/2006 10:03:43 AM PDT by Iscool (I spent MOST of my MONEY on cold beer and hot women...The REST, I just wasted ...)
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To: Thumper1960
God's messing with your head.

LOL!!! You're gonna get it!!!!!

99 posted on 07/04/2006 10:04:36 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Hound of the Baskervilles
The theory of evolution is not even a remote threat to faith. Geesh!

LOLOL! Well said.

100 posted on 07/04/2006 10:04:58 AM PDT by phantomworker (Live life so completely, when death comes like a thief in the night, there is nothing left to steal.)
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