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U.S. soldiers beheaded in retribution for rape?
WND ^ | July 9, 2006 | unk

Posted on 07/09/2006 1:05:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

When U.S. Army privates Kristian Menchaca and Thomas Tucker were abducted from their checkpoint near the town of Yusufiyah on June 16 and later found mutilated and beheaded, their killing by insurgents was seen as retaliation for the death of al-Qaida leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi two days earlier, but now residents from a neighboring town are claiming the kidnap was carried out in retaliation for the rape and murder of a 15-year-old girl by an American soldier.

U.S. Army prosecutors say Steven Green, 21, a recently discharged private, and others entered the home of Abeer Qassim Hamza on March 21, killed her parents and younger sister, then raped the teenage girl and shot her in the head. The bodies were burned in what investigators believe was an attempt to cover up the crime and put the blame on insurgents.

Four other soldiers stationed in Iraq are under investigation for the incident.

While Army officials have considered the possibility the murder of the family and the brutal killing of Menchaca and Tucker could be related, they say it is only "speculation" at this time.

"We are trying to find out if this hit on these ... soldiers was a retribution for the rape and murder," a military official involved in the investigation said earlier this week. "I cannot fathom the audacity it would take to do such a complex attack. What sort of rage exists in the populace? Are they saying we aren't going to take this from people who do this to our women?"

According to Iraqis who knew the dead girl's family, that may indeed be the case. They have told the London Telegraph that relatives with ties to insurgent groups requested they exact "blood for blood" revenge.

"We knew about this crime but the mujahideen brought revenge when they kidnapped two American soldiers in Yusufiyah," said Saba Shukr, a Sunni sheikh at al-Aziz mosque in Mahmoudiyah. "They are still waiting to kidnap and kill another eight soldiers, as the price of the death of the girl should be the death of 10 Americans. I am sure about this. The mujahideen promised us revenge."

Because of Muslim reluctance to report sexual crimes, relatives and friends were unwilling to contact the U.S. Army or Iraqi police.

"We went to visit the cousin of the family who lived about half a mile away to tell them the news," said Abu Hazem, a neighbor of the family. "He said, 'Please keep it secret and we will take revenge on the Americans the quiet way'."

Capt. Ehsan Abdul Rahman, a police officer, said that he had told Abeer's cousin there should be a proper investigation but he did not want media attention."

Residents of Mahmoudiyah said that Abeer had caught the attention of soldiers while working in her family's garden at their isolated farmhouse.

"She had been told by her parents not to go to school any more because of poor security," said Hazem. "She spent most of her time at home cleaning and in the garden so the American forces saw her many times. She was a beautiful girl, and my wife told me that the Americans kept watching her. When I told her father, though, he said it was no problem and that she was just a small girl."

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on Wednesday demanded a role for his country in the investigation of the rape and murders.

"I promise the Iraqi people a transparent investigation into this case," he said


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And speculation is all it is
1 posted on 07/09/2006 1:05:40 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

""Because of Muslim reluctance to report sexual crimes, relatives and friends were unwilling to contact the U.S. Army or Iraqi police.""

How convenient. No sale!


2 posted on 07/09/2006 1:07:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: Kaslin

Lies are all it is!


3 posted on 07/09/2006 1:09:12 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: Kaslin
but NOW residents from a neighboring town are claiming .....

How very convenient for them.

4 posted on 07/09/2006 1:11:19 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: claudiustg

Muslims are only bount to tell the truth to other Muslims.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 1:11:20 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Kaslin
According to Iraqis who knew the dead girl's family, that may indeed be the case. They have told the London Telegraph that relatives with ties to insurgent groups requested they exact "blood for blood" revenge.

How can that be the case when the family said they thought it was "insurgents"?

Too much speculation with few facts.

6 posted on 07/09/2006 1:13:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Kaslin
As if the muslims need an excuse to behead and mutilate anyone.

More BS played to the hilt by and for the media, our primary enemy in the world.
7 posted on 07/09/2006 1:19:58 PM PDT by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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To: Kaslin

---U.S. Army prosecutors say Steven Green, 21, a recently discharged private, and others entered the home of Abeer Qassim Hamza on March 21, killed her parents and younger sister, then raped the teenage girl and shot her in the head. The bodies were burned in what investigators believe was an attempt to cover up the crime and put the blame on insurgents.----

Haven't they arrested 5 soldiers for this? It doesn't compute that you could get 5 US soldiers to go along with something like this. It does sound exactly like something some jihadis would do. It sounds like some Saddam's sons would do doesn't it?


8 posted on 07/09/2006 1:20:35 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Well .. this statement doesn't sit well with me ..

"... relatives with ties to insurgent groups requested they exact "blood for blood" revenge."

So insurgents were involved in this mess .. and for my money it was the insurgents who killed this family for their cooperation with our soldiers .. or other reasons .. perhaps a relationship of the daughter with one of the soldiers ..??


9 posted on 07/09/2006 1:24:48 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It's only speculations. Unlike like Saddam's hoods who were rewarded by him, the soldiers are being infestigated as they should be and if they are found guilty will be punished.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 1:25:37 PM PDT by Kaslin (Bad news for the left..President Bush's plan is working, and the Carl Rove indictment went bye bye)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

"Because of Muslim reluctance to report sexual crimes,"

makes me think of all the publicity afforded uday and qusay and other saddamists re rape....oh yeh, murder afterward, too.


11 posted on 07/09/2006 1:26:51 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Kaslin

This kind of speculating doesn't serve getting to the truth. It's a shame they're doing it.


12 posted on 07/09/2006 1:28:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Kaslin
Residents of Mahmoudiyah said that Abeer had caught the attention of soldiers while working in her family's garden at their isolated farmhouse. "She had been told by her parents not to go to school any more because of poor security," said Hazem. "She spent most of her time at home cleaning and in the garden so the American forces saw her many times. She was a beautiful girl, and my wife told me that the Americans kept watching her. When I told her father, though, he said it was no problem and that she was just a small girl."

How do we know this wasn't some sort of honor killing made to look like murder?

13 posted on 07/09/2006 1:29:20 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: CyberAnt

".. and for my money it was the insurgents who killed this family for their cooperation with our soldiers .. or other reasons .. perhaps a relationship of the daughter with one of the soldiers ..??"

very likely.


14 posted on 07/09/2006 1:29:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: Kaslin

I don't believe a word of it. It's waaaaaay too convenient.


15 posted on 07/09/2006 1:29:52 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Agreed. It don't pass the smell test : )


16 posted on 07/09/2006 1:30:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: Kaslin

So the Muslim way to pay back for rape is to capture two people innocent of that rape and behead and mutilate and torture them?

I guess thats about right for these rabid POS terrorist emefers, but for anywhere else in the world thats a sack of dog crap.

It makes a good story but its a lie. Told by a pack of liars. We made our biggest mistake in not bombimng Iraq into submission destroying every city in the country until the begged to give us Saddam.


17 posted on 07/09/2006 1:31:08 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: AliVeritas; Txsleuth; daybreakcoming; PISANO

Mahmoudiya (or Mahmudiya or Mahmudiyah) pinglist--if you want on or off, please let me know via freepmail.


18 posted on 07/09/2006 1:31:25 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: CyberAnt
I thought one of the soldiers has admited this. Is that not the case?

I really hate to think our guys would do this, however, our forces are made up of various people, and we know there are bad guys in this country who would do something similar, so I don't think it's impossible. It IS hard to imagine 5 being willing to do it. If it's true, they need to really pay a high price, because not only was the crime heinous, it puts our country in a bad light, and our other soldiers (and perhaps civilians) in even more danger.

In addition, I noted this quote:

"We went to visit the cousin of the family who lived about half a mile away to tell them the news," said Abu Hazem, a neighbor of the family. "He said, 'Please keep it secret and we will take revenge on the Americans the quiet way'."

It reminds me that it will be extremely difficult to get this part of the world what I would consider civilized. I also wonder how many immigrants we have taken in who have that same mindset. Hopefully that dissipates within a generation, however it does not meld well with our system.

19 posted on 07/09/2006 1:33:27 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Just A Nobody
No doubt the tale about the people "in the other town" is being passed along by folks who'd like the US to exterminate the people in that "other town".

Really have to be careful what you listen to in a country that uses the vendetta system.

20 posted on 07/09/2006 1:37:29 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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