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KILL, DON'T CAPTURE
New York Post ^ | July 10, 2006 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:10 AM PDT by yoe

July 10, 2006 -- THE British military defines experience as the ability to recognize a mistake the second time you make it. By that standard, we should be very experienced in dealing with captured terrorists, since we've made the same mistake again and again. Violent Islamist extremists must be killed on the battlefield. Only in the rarest cases should they be taken prisoner. Few have serious intelligence value. And, once captured, there's no way to dispose of them. Killing terrorists during a conflict isn't barbaric or immoral - or even illegal. We've imposed rules upon ourselves that have no historical or judicial precedent. We haven't been stymied by others, but by ourselves.

The oft-cited, seldom-read Geneva and Hague Conventions define legal combatants as those who visibly identify themselves by wearing uniforms or distinguishing insignia (the latter provision covers honorable partisans - but no badges or armbands, no protection). Those who wear civilian clothes to ambush soldiers or collect intelligence are assassins and spies - beyond the pale of law.

Traditionally, those who masquerade as civilians in order to kill legal combatants have been executed promptly, without trial. Severity, not sloppy leftist pandering, kept warfare within some decent bounds at least part of the time. But we have reached a point at which the rules apply only to us, while our enemies are permitted unrestricted freedom.

The present situation encourages our enemies to behave wantonly, while crippling our attempts to deal with terror.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: globaljihad; jihad; jihadists; ralphpeters; waronterror; wot; wwiv
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[snip] Consider today's norm: A terrorist in civilian clothes can explode an IED, killing and maiming American troops or innocent civilians, then demand humane treatment if captured - and the media will step in as his champion. A disguised insurgent can shoot his rockets, throw his grenades, empty his magazines, kill and wound our troops, then, out of ammo, raise his hands and demand three hots and a cot while he invents tales of abuse.
1 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:11 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

Great minds think alike! We even put the same snippet in our comments!


2 posted on 07/10/2006 6:18:13 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: yoe

Makes sense to me.


3 posted on 07/10/2006 6:18:34 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: yoe

I've been saying this now for years. There is only a very limited amount of intelligence we can gain from these guys and most of what we gain is from the papers we sieze or their computers. If we had been killing them right from the start, fewer of them would have decided to leave home and join the jihad, but since they are treated better after they are captured than they have ever been treated in their lives, there is little to deter them.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 6:19:22 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If the intelligence agencies can't find the leakers how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: yoe
Consider today's norm: A terrorist in civilian clothes can explode an IED, killing and maiming American troops or innocent civilians, then demand humane treatment if captured - and the media will step in as his champion. A disguised insurgent can shoot his rockets, throw his grenades, empty his magazines, kill and wound our troops, then, out of ammo, raise his hands and demand three hots and a cot while he invents tales of abuse.

ALL OF THIS made possible by three institutions: the Democrat Party (liberals in government), the MainStream Media (liberals in the press), and the United Nations (liberals on the global stage).

5 posted on 07/10/2006 6:20:22 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: yoe

In a time of war, when American soldiers are being killed, or captured and tortured, the Democrats support the enemy. The enemy has blood on their hands, and it drips from the teeth of their allies, the Democrat jackals.


6 posted on 07/10/2006 6:21:12 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: yoe

The fewer prisoners we take the better.


7 posted on 07/10/2006 6:22:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: yoe

Works for me.


9 posted on 07/10/2006 6:24:47 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: yoe
Just like killing cockroaches - you wouldn't keep one alive to find out where the others live.
10 posted on 07/10/2006 6:24:50 AM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitur")
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To: McGavin999

We will need to quit embedding reporters with our troops if we change to this tactic.


11 posted on 07/10/2006 6:25:18 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: yoe

Kill all terrorists except the ones who have some information and would be executed after a speedy military trial.


12 posted on 07/10/2006 6:25:54 AM PDT by GBA
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To: yoe

While this makes battlefield sense and has from the beginning, I simply do not know of any modern conflict that has ended in stable perpetuity because one side was able to kill all the other side.

By perverting the "Geneva Convention" into a US civil rights document, liberal lawyers have essentially neutered it as a military treaty.


13 posted on 07/10/2006 6:25:55 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Don't forget the liberal activists on the SCOTUS...they contributed to this farce more than most.


14 posted on 07/10/2006 6:26:03 AM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT NYT, LAT, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, WaPo, USA Today, and ALL leftist rags!!!)
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To: yoe
I have always felt that way.
Further, I consider "rules of war" an oxymoron.

The concept is pretty simple: hide among civilians and wage or support murder?
Die.

15 posted on 07/10/2006 6:26:46 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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A terrorist in civilian clothes can explode an IED, killing and maiming American troops or innocent civilians, then demand humane treatment if captured - and the media will step in as his champion.

As evidenced by the NY Times obsession with abu Garib ... 140 stories in the first two months (most on the front page) after the so called atrocities came to light. More recently two U.S. soldiers were captured by terrorists, tortured and horribly mutilated, to the extent when their bodies were found it took DNA testing to identify the remains. The NY Times gave the story one day of front page coverage ... after that, no further reference to the incident.

16 posted on 07/10/2006 6:30:24 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: yoe
Gore is preaching tolerance. If he had been elected, the Islamists would have been setting off carbombs in the USA. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
17 posted on 07/10/2006 6:30:48 AM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: tsmith130

...and this, teach children at an early age not to throw rocks at people who have guns.
They need to know it's not worth a Kent State photo op.


18 posted on 07/10/2006 6:30:59 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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And, once captured, there's no way to dispose of them.

This is the only statement in the article with which I disagree.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 6:31:02 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Enterprise

That about sums it up.


20 posted on 07/10/2006 6:31:28 AM PDT by Obadiah (I wanted to play Mousetrap. You roll the dice, you move your mice. Nobody gets hurt.)
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