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Group claims 3 GIs killed over rape-murders
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/10/06 | Robert H. Reid - ap

Posted on 07/10/2006 7:33:49 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An al-Qaida-linked group claims it killed three U.S. soldiers last month and mutilated two of their bodies to avenge the rape-slaying of a young Iraqi woman by troops of the same unit, an institute which monitors extremists Web sites said Tuesday.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council made the claim in a 4:39 minute video posted on the Internet which included the mutilated bodies of two of the soldiers attacked June 19 near Youssifiyah southwest of Baghdad, according to a statement by the SITE Institute.

The institute released still pictures from the video showing two of the American dead, one of whom had been decapitated.

According to the institute, the statement by the insurgent group said the video was released as "revenge for our sister who was dishonored by a soldier of the same brigade."

Two sergeants are among five American soldiers charged in the March 12 alleged rape-murder and the killing her parents and a younger sister. The U.S. military released the identities of the suspects Monday.

A previously discharged soldier had been arrested in the case last month and charged with rape and murder.

According to the SITE Institute, the statement by the insurgents said that as soon as fighters heard of the rape-slaying, "they kept their anger to themselves and didn't spread the news."

"They decided to take revenge for their sister's honor," the statement said. "With Allah's help, they captured two soldiers of the same brigade as this dirty crusader."

The Mujahedeen Shura Council is an umbrella organization of several Islamic extremist groups, including al-Qaida in Iraq. It claimed responsibility for shooting down a U.S. Apache helicopter in the Youssifiyah area in April.

U.S. investigators had said there was no evidence linking the deaths of the three soldiers last month to the alleged rape-slaying.

Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, Spc. James P. Barker, Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman and Pfc. Bryan L. Howard are accused of rape and murder and several other charges as alleged participants. They could face the death penalty if convicted.

A fifth, Sgt. Anthony W. Yribe, is charged with failing to report the attack but is not alleged to have been a direct participant.

The five will face an Article 32 hearing, the military equivalent of a grand jury proceeding, to determine if they should stand trial.

They are charged with conspiring with former soldier Steven D. Green, who was arrested in the case last month in North Carolina. Green has pleaded not guilty to one count of rape and four counts of murder and is being held without bond.

The U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, declined to comment further on details about the attack, saying the investigation continues.

"But they obviously had enough information in the initial investigation to go ahead and charge those four soldiers all with alleged rape, rape, obstruction of justice, housebreaking, arson and the other offenses," he told reporters in Baghdad.

Spielman, of Chambersburg, Pa., is a 2002 graduate of Chambersburg Area Senior High School.

His mother, Nancy Hess, told WGAL-TV in Lancaster, Pa., on Monday: "I don't believe the charges and I'm still proud of him." She said her son always wanted to be a soldier.

According to an FBI affidavit filed in Green's case, he and at least two others targeted the young woman and her family for a week before the attack, which was not revealed until witnesses came forward in late June.

The soldiers drank alcohol, abandoned their checkpoint, changed clothes to avoid detection and headed to the victims' house, about 200 meters (yards) from a U.S. checkpoint in the "Triangle of Death," a Sunni Arab area south of Baghdad known for its violence, the affidavit said.

The affidavit estimated the rape victim was about 25. But a doctor at the Mahmoudiya hospital gave her age as 14. He refused to be identified for fear of reprisals.

Green is accused of raping the woman and killing her and the three other family members, including a girl estimated to be 5 years old. An official familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press that Green set fire to the rape victim's body in an apparent cover-up attempt.

Iraqi authorities identified the rape victim as Abeer Qassim Hamza. The other victims were her father, Qassim Hamza; her mother, Fikhriya Taha; and her sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.

The March 12 attack was among the worst in a series of cases of U.S. troops accused of killing and abusing Iraqi civilians.

U.S. officials are concerned the case will strain relations with Iraq's new government and increase calls for changes in an agreement that exempts American soldiers from prosecution in Iraqi courts.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has demanded an independent investigation into the case, which comes after a series of allegations that U.S. troops killed and mistreated Iraqi civilians.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaida; claims; iraq; killed; mahmoudiya; murders; rape; shura
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To: NormsRevenge

Its pretty clear that we didn't hear this until weeks after it became common knowledge that the US began its investigation.

Of course, if they really did it for that reason, it would perhaps have helped their murderous cause if they had like, actually found the people who allegedly did it.

No, they are interested in murder, not Justice, if anyone was confused.


21 posted on 07/10/2006 9:09:22 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Did I defend rape and murder? Didn't think so. If these soldiers did it they'll hang. Until then, innocent until proven guilty.

No mention that the murder of our captured soldiers was in retribution for a crime until it was mentioned in the msm. Just a coincidence I guess. Get the picture or do I have to spell it out for you?

If fair is as fair does our troops have the right to kill every terrorist captured. Remember the rape of Jessica Lynch? The murder of our troops captured early in the war? The videoed beheading of American civilians and many others? The daily slaughter of women and children by the enemy?

Zarqawi put out orders to capture Ameicans alive for "slaughter" especially women. These were the first they got and speculation is that they weren't captured alive.

"If" this girl was raped and murdered, then the jihadis are only pissed off because they didn't get the chance to "slaughter" her for being raped by a Crusader.

22 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: gandalftb

The msm, the enemy and dems will say that the jihadis didn't want to inflict further distress on the girl's family by bringing this up.


23 posted on 07/10/2006 9:23:17 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6
Well, the family is dead... The msm, dems and enemy are all political opportunists, cheap-shot artists, that's all. Trying to give the enemy any sort of "understanding" patina on this slaughter is just plain falling into the enemies propoganda.

Disgusting, the SITE Institute ought to know better, they do this for a living, and they don't even have my hacked sources or they would know what a hustle this is.

24 posted on 07/10/2006 9:32:46 PM PDT by gandalftb
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To: AliVeritas; Txsleuth; daybreakcoming; PISANO; Chickenhawk Warmonger; Just A Nobody; ...

Mahmoudiya pinglist--if you want on or off, let me know via freepmail.


25 posted on 07/11/2006 5:43:35 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: SAMS

You are right. Even in the US, most folks can spot a military man walking down the street. In another country like Iraq, I think that would be doubly true.

This story has a LOT of holes in it--plus it seems to change more and more as time goes by.


26 posted on 07/11/2006 5:46:23 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: mystery-ak

The "confession" stories change just about every day. Some stories claim one confessed, others say no one officially confessed, but people heard one or more talking about the attack, now they're saying two have confessed? Someone's lying.


27 posted on 07/11/2006 5:49:44 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: gandalftb; SandRat; abb; La Enchiladita; freema; jazusamo

Pinging folks to gandalftb's #20, which shoots down the revenge motive story (which never did make sense).


28 posted on 07/11/2006 5:54:05 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Eagles6
The msm, the enemy and dems

One and the same!

29 posted on 07/11/2006 8:00:37 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: gandalftb

gandalftb - do you have a link where you found that article about negotiations? The al-Basrah link has removed their copy of that article. Guess it wouldn't look good to have that article posted when claiming the murders were revenge, huh?


30 posted on 07/11/2006 8:01:24 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (All aboard the Chickenhawk Express... www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: MizSterious; gandalftb

Thanks for the ping Miz and the post gandalftb. Excellent find even if the MSM is not interested.


31 posted on 07/11/2006 8:36:26 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: Eagles6
No mention that the murder of our captured soldiers was in retribution for a crime until it was mentioned in the msm.

Do you see the fallacy in your argument? You didn't hear about it in the news until you heard about it in the news.

32 posted on 07/11/2006 9:12:50 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: dynoman; MizSterious

Thank you for posting the affidavit link (post 14). Everyone interested in this case should read it.

Your first reaction, dynoman, is it "doesn't look too good for Mr. Green."

My first reaction is, Wow, look at the discrepancies. The affidavit raises so many more questions than it gives answers. Of course, FBI special agent Ehlers begins with the qualifier that he did not include "each and every fact known to me concerning this investigation."

My question is this: Since the affidavit attests that both U.S. Army personnel and Iraqi Army personnel were called to the crime scene in its immediate aftermath (March 12, 2006), what investigation was conducted on scene from that time forward? And why did the investigation not lead to the soldiers?

The affidavit states that soldier complicity was only "discovered" on June 20, 2006 via an interview conducted with the "hearsay" soldier as part of redeployment counseling. By then, they were out of country and it was 3-1/2 months after the fact.

I raised questions re the affidavit in the other thread and, now, with another reading I have more questions. It was also pointed out by another FReeper that the soldiers interviewed may not have had access to legal counsel prior to or during their questioning by the FBI.


33 posted on 07/11/2006 9:59:39 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (U.S. troops are the best in the world.)
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To: CobaltBlue
There is no fallacy in my arguement. Please read gandalftb's post #20. Sheds light. The terrorists did not mention rape, murder or revenge until the first story raising the theory was published in the LA Times last week. The alleged incident was never mentioned by the jihadis in the months since it happened. Don't you think that the "justice" done to the Crusaders would have been proclaimed in all the jihadi sites if that had been true? It wasn't because that wasn't why they had been taken, alive or dead. This is a way to use the msm to garner support for the terrorist cause and the media is only too happy to comply.
34 posted on 07/11/2006 5:46:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6

Sorry, but you're mistaken, as a tiny bit of effort would reveal to you.

The first person to say they thought it was revenge was the man who confessed to the incident. Not the media, not the persons who killed the Americans, not anybody taking credit for the act. One of the men who was there.


35 posted on 07/12/2006 3:19:05 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue

We'll have to disagree then.


36 posted on 07/12/2006 6:07:04 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6

Speaking of revenge, did you know that jihadis weren't beheading Americans in Iraq until two weeks after the Abu Ghraib photos surfaced?

True fact.

Blowback's a bitch.


37 posted on 07/13/2006 4:39:46 AM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: CobaltBlue
Word from people who were there is that Americans were beheaded and bodies abused early in the war from the 507th and the Marines who were trying to rescue the captured soldiers. Remeber the video of the captured soldiers showing bullets between the eyes and genital mutilation? Does it really matter whether you're shot and left to bleed out or your head is sawed off on dvd? Remember Matt Maupin and those murdered after capture with the 507th.

The enemy has murdered all Americans captured except when it wasn't to their advantage, ie, close to capture.

We are expected to believe that these savages only behead Americans when they have been driven over the edge by American excesses. They sawed off Nicholas Berg and Paul Johnson's heads because their buddies had to wear women's underwear? They wouldn't have had to "slaughter infidels" if they had been made to wear tiger print instead of leopard like the zark boy's girlfriend?

Abu Ghraib showed the enemy that the media was ready to jump on the "anti-American" bandwagon.

38 posted on 07/13/2006 9:03:58 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The bad people play the drive by media like a fiddle. This is pure BS. Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
39 posted on 07/13/2006 9:06:54 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Eagles6

Well, maybe you don't have a problem with wearing leopard print panties and bras but you're you.

If you think other men should gladly wear women's underwear -- well, that's an interesting argument.

Why not put on fishnet hose and give blowjobs for $5 a pop while you're at it?


40 posted on 07/13/2006 9:08:19 PM PDT by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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