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Rove: Hispanics are `real Americans'
SF Gate ^ | July 11, 2006 | MICHAEL R. BLOOD

Posted on 07/11/2006 5:24:30 PM PDT by managusta

White House political strategist Karl Rove said Tuesday that the highly charged immigration debate has "clouded" the views of some Americans, leading them to dismiss the importance of immigrants and their contribution to the nation's success.

"Everything that this country is, everything that we have achieved, everything that we hold, everything that we promise, is because we are a nation of diversity, brought together by immigration, and sharing a common dream," Rove told members of the nation's largest Hispanic civil rights group, the National Council of La Raza.

Rove ticked off enforcement elements of the president's proposal, but added, "All these measures will come to naught without a temporary worker program. ... It's not enough to say send them home."

He also warned that critics against were confusing the debate with catchwords, rather than solutions.

"Too many simplify the problem into one word, "amnesty," Rove said. "In an issue this vital, we cannot allow words to be misused."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
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Wow! This will certainly please the Republican base. Talk about snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

This speech featured deplorable pandering adorned with playing the Hispanic race card. A video on Fox showed Rove saying " We would accept a poor bill because the issue is so important".

This is not good for Nov.

1 posted on 07/11/2006 5:24:31 PM PDT by managusta
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To: managusta

What is the spanish word for "Horse$h1t" ??


2 posted on 07/11/2006 5:26:04 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


3 posted on 07/11/2006 5:26:30 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: xcamel
Rove
4 posted on 07/11/2006 5:27:56 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (This message has been edited to meet FCC standards)
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To: managusta
This needs a BARF ALERT
5 posted on 07/11/2006 5:28:58 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: xcamel

mierda del caballo


6 posted on 07/11/2006 5:29:30 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: managusta

7 posted on 07/11/2006 5:29:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: managusta
White House political strategist Karl Rove said Tuesday that the highly charged immigration debate has "clouded" the views of some Americans, leading them to dismiss the importance of immigrants and their contribution to the nation's success

The main thing that has "clouded" the view is spinmeisters like Rove who can't seem to put "illegal" in the same paragraph as "immigrant". Instead they throw up strawmen like these.

8 posted on 07/11/2006 5:30:08 PM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: managusta
They're real Americans only if:

1) They're legal citizens.

2) Their allegiance is to the U.S. .....and only the U.S.

Comprende, Karl?

9 posted on 07/11/2006 5:30:56 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: managusta
Too many simplify the problem into one word, "amnesty," Rove said. "In an issue this vital, we cannot allow words to be misused."

How "uncivil" of Karl. Karl is now a word "vigilante." LOL. Hypocrite.

11 posted on 07/11/2006 5:32:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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Bush is getting bad advice from Rove.
Rove needs to spend one week in San Diego and get into the world of reality.


12 posted on 07/11/2006 5:33:05 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

You give "Horse$h1t" a bad name!


13 posted on 07/11/2006 5:33:05 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: xcamel
He also warned that critics against were confusing the debate with catchwords, rather than solutions.

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Is horse$h1t a catchword? Interesting how rove talks about catch word and his entire speech is about the immigrant American spirit. A catch word designed to deflect from the fact that these people are not immigrants, or Americans.
14 posted on 07/11/2006 5:33:17 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: xcamel
WAY TO GO KARL!!!!!!!

Whooooppp! ;^)

15 posted on 07/11/2006 5:33:55 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: managusta
"In an issue this vital, we cannot allow words to be misused."

I guess you don't mind if the 'illegals' misuse America or America's National Security then, eh Rove? I can't type anymore on this.....I'll just simply have to vote and be done with it.

16 posted on 07/11/2006 5:33:58 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: managusta

Oh boy.


17 posted on 07/11/2006 5:34:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: managusta

Rove is speaking like a true traitor or a crazy man.


18 posted on 07/11/2006 5:35:25 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: SoCalPol
So right SoCal!

I was reading this and waiting for the word illegal to come up. Nobody has a problem with immigration. The key word is illegal!

19 posted on 07/11/2006 5:36:18 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: managusta

Rove made far too much sense for the growing anti-hispanic brigade here on FR.


20 posted on 07/11/2006 5:36:50 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Dante3

he sounds like he is blazing the trail for mcinsane


21 posted on 07/11/2006 5:36:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: Shermy

Another one that doesn't know what the meaning of is is.


22 posted on 07/11/2006 5:37:44 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Gitcher pander followup right heah! Step right up and read the words of The Strategic Pander Man, Karl Rove, as he sinks to new lows in a speech to a gathering of La Raza members.

(Pardon me while I puke up the Italian chicken sausage I ate for dinner.)


23 posted on 07/11/2006 5:37:47 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Melas

anti Hispanic? Not true, though you'd like to think so. I am against illegal entry into the United States and I don't care about anything further!


24 posted on 07/11/2006 5:38:20 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: SoCalPol
Wonder how he feels about this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663896/posts

or if he (or anyone) really gives a fig anymore, it's all about power, s@rew the country.

25 posted on 07/11/2006 5:38:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: LexBaird
The main thing that has "clouded" the view is spinmeisters like Rove who can't seem to put "illegal" in the same paragraph as "immigrant".

And then he has the gall to say, "In an issue this vital, we cannot allow words to be misused."

26 posted on 07/11/2006 5:38:41 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: xcamel

CaCa........


27 posted on 07/11/2006 5:38:52 PM PDT by GlennLivett (Insula est scelestus interficio monastica quod Mohammed est abbas of totus monachus quod volutabrum.)
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To: Melas

Throwing out the race card like a true democrat.


28 posted on 07/11/2006 5:38:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Melas

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663896/posts


29 posted on 07/11/2006 5:39:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mr. Mojo

"""They're real Americans only if:
1) They're legal citizens.

2) Their allegiance is to the U.S. .....and only the U.S.

Comprende, Karl?"""


Yeah Karl stop being a dipsh$$!





30 posted on 07/11/2006 5:39:16 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Melas

"Rove made far too much sense for the growing anti-hispanic brigade here on FR."

Rove has been playing the racist card from day one, if you oppose him you will be labeled so. Ironically, he's speaking today to a racist group.


31 posted on 07/11/2006 5:39:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: managusta

---In his speech, Rove talked about his family's Norwegian heritage, saying he kept a picture of his great-grandfather, an immigrant, on his office wall "to remind me of the promise of our great county."---

His great-grandfatherr sneaked into the country, purchased forged documents, and worked illegally until the Congress passed an amnesty bill? And of course, they put up signs everywhere in Norwegian and made sure he wasn't offended by having to learn English?


32 posted on 07/11/2006 5:40:02 PM PDT by claudiustg (dou•ble•think ('d&-b&l-"thi[ng]k), noun, 1949: a simultaneous belief in two contradictory ideas.)
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To: managusta
"Rove: Hispanics are `real Americans'"

Sure they are. The ones who are American Citizens.

34 posted on 07/11/2006 5:40:26 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: CAluvdubya

I bet Karl has a front door and lock and uses it.
We want the same for our state.


35 posted on 07/11/2006 5:40:40 PM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: managusta
" "Everything that this country is, everything that we have achieved, everything that we hold, everything that we promise, is because we are a nation of diversity, brought together by immigration, and sharing a common dream," "

One question Karl?

The last 5 words of your above statement are "...and sharing a common dream."

What common dream do you ( Karl ) and la Raza share ? I really want to know where your common ground is with La Raza.

36 posted on 07/11/2006 5:40:45 PM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: DCPatriot
I'm hopelessly liberal on immigration. They took the nerve to get across the border to work here....let them stay. Give them citizenship.

Please tell us that's sarcasm. Because if it's not, how would you feel about folks taking the nerve to invade your house, take up residence and force you to pay for them?

37 posted on 07/11/2006 5:40:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Dante3

Rove is kissing George Bush,s ass big time.


38 posted on 07/11/2006 5:41:41 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Americans can be legal all they want, and illegals can be illegal all they want, eh Rove? What a waste.


39 posted on 07/11/2006 5:42:17 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: managusta

He is out of his mind.


40 posted on 07/11/2006 5:42:47 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: managusta

He is out of his mind.


41 posted on 07/11/2006 5:42:48 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: Smartass; JustPiper; SeaBiscuit; OKIEDOC; La Enchiladita; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; ...

ping


42 posted on 07/11/2006 5:43:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: managusta

Yeah, that's right Rove, let's not misuse the word 'Amnesty' with 'Comprehensive'.. or 'Immigration' with 'Illegal Entry', or 'La Raza' with 'Civil Rights', or 'Window Dressing' with 'Securing the Borders', or 'Phantoms' with '6000 NG', or 'Pandering' with 'Honesty' and especially, 'Lies' with 'Truth'.


43 posted on 07/11/2006 5:43:21 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless America and All who protect and preserve this Great Nation.)
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To: managusta

Sure Hispanics are real Americans......as long as they're legal citizens.

I detect a hint of quiet desperation here...actually not so quiet.


44 posted on 07/11/2006 5:43:32 PM PDT by Dazedcat ((Please God, make it stop))
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To: gubamyster
Thanks for the ping, Gubamyster.

I see that I'm getting another load from the folks I voted for.

Dare I hope for a pony? I think not.

45 posted on 07/11/2006 5:43:38 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: SoCalPol

Oh don't you know that Karl wants to protect his property. Hey maybe we should all just move in with Karl. We can bring tents and cots and stoves. We won't be any bother to him and his family.


47 posted on 07/11/2006 5:44:36 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Melas
Just the anti illegal Hispanic allian brigade here.
48 posted on 07/11/2006 5:44:51 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: managusta
Statement: "Rove: Hispanics are `real Americans'"

Response: He is living proof of the dictum, "In declining states the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action."-A Great Historian 1888

49 posted on 07/11/2006 5:45:03 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: KoRn

"Rove: Hispanics are `real Americans'"

Nobody doubts that. It's Rove's way to claim his opponents say otherwise. He has to tread lightly on playing the racist card given prior "words" he has given Bush to say.


50 posted on 07/11/2006 5:45:06 PM PDT by Shermy
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