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Why citizens must own and carry firearms (only criminals have the right to choose)
Townhall ^ | Wednesday, July 12, 2006 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 07/12/2006 4:05:09 AM PDT by IrishMike

At 2 a.m. on Sunday, 27-year-old Alan Senitt was murdered. Senitt, an aspiring British politician, Jewish activist and Democratic volunteer, was walking home a female companion in the Georgetown area of Washington, D.C. when he was accosted by Christopher Piper, 25, Jeffrey Rice, 22, and a 15-year-old. Piper, who had a gun, immediately grabbed Senitt's female companion and pulled her away to rape her. Rice, who had stated earlier in the night that he was desperate to "cut" someone, slit Senitt's throat. The three thugs then hopped into a getaway car driven by Olivia Miles, 26, and sped off into the night.

Only hours later, the police arrested the four suspects. Apparently, two of the suspects matched the descriptions of perpetrators of two recent robberies, and the police had already obtained an address for those two suspects. So why did Alan Senitt have to die in order for these animals to be arrested? "I can give you my 100 percent word everything was done within the confines of the law," Lt. Robert Glover of the police department's violent crimes branch told the Washington Post. "We cannot make an arrest without probable cause."

Now the police have their probable cause. Rice was found with Senitt's ID and the woman's cell phone on his person, and his shirt covered in Senitt's blood. The suspects are in custody. And Alan Senitt is dead.

Our Constitution mandates that citizens may not be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. One of the requirements of due process of law is that arrests not be arbitrary. It is likely true that the D.C. police did everything within the confines of the law to pursue the suspects.

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1 posted on 07/12/2006 4:05:13 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

I'm doing my part....

;-)


2 posted on 07/12/2006 4:09:19 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

..I'm doing my part....


Bang,......... I mean Ping !


3 posted on 07/12/2006 4:11:30 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Would Alan Senitt have bought a gun for self-defense?

If he was a Demoncratic activist we can guess the answer to that question, but the thugs who killed him wouldn't have known that.

4 posted on 07/12/2006 4:15:13 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: IrishMike

Walking home at 2:00 AM, in any big city is going to be a problem.

Give the man a gun, maybe he can blow away these bastards, but I see he did work for the Rats so he would not know how to use it anyway.


5 posted on 07/12/2006 4:17:19 AM PDT by Duke Wayne
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To: IrishMike

For those of you that are interested in defending yourselves I would reccomend writing your Senators and demand that they support Senator George Allen's [R-VA]bill S.3275 and your Congressman to support H.R. 4547 introduced by Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]. If passed they would standardize concealed carry laws and make it mandatory for all states to recognize concealed carry permits issued by other states.


6 posted on 07/12/2006 4:21:30 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: IrishMike
Maybe I'm missing something here . . .

If Senitt was a British citizen, then he'd have no business carrying a firearm here in the U.S. under any circumstances.

7 posted on 07/12/2006 4:27:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
"If Senitt was a British citizen, then he'd have no business carrying a firearm here in the U.S. under any circumstances."

In my state (Free Republic of Texas) a non citizen that is a legal resident can go through the same process as the rest of us and obtain a CCL.
8 posted on 07/12/2006 4:41:23 AM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I believe you are correct. The thing I noticed in this story, if I read it correctly the criminals had the juvenile carrying the gun. Washington DC has tough gun laws and they knew the juvenile would walk if arrested with it. If they can prove pre-meditation to cut someone this character needs the death penalty, but this is DC again. Just some poor black youths out for a good time.


9 posted on 07/12/2006 4:41:39 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: cpdiii

Absolutely correct.
States regulate & license firearms, drivers licenses, fishing licenses, nursing and other professional types.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 4:47:51 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike

Years ago, while living in D. C., I had a conversation at my front door with four gentlemen. I happened to have a cocked 1911 in my hand. When they were going down the steps I head the largest one (who had been in front) say, “What were you poking me in the back for when the man had a great big gun in my face!”

Concealed Carry:

I will relate a story told to me by my mother, who was a police reporter on a Washington, D. C. newspaper during the early 1920's. I will not swear to its veracity.

Mother covered an attempted robbery of some firm in which a charwomen of ample proportions, particularly laterally, rose from her knees and threw a brick accurately and hard enough to brain the gunman.

During the interview my mother asked, “Where did you get the brick?”

The lady drew herself up with pride and announced, “Ah always carries a brick in mah bosom!”


11 posted on 07/12/2006 5:10:54 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei (One doesn't have to regret the Enlightenment to be a conservative!)
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To: Tabi Katz; IrishMike

Seeing as he was a Democratic activist, I'm surprised he didn't have a gun. That gun control stuff is for us serfs, not the ruling elite.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 5:15:21 AM PDT by magslinger (Crusade, what happens when enough Christians have enough jihad.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

What are you carrying?
Depending on the activity, I alternate between a .380 PPK clone and a .45 Springfield Armory Compact.
The Springfields V-10 have a ported barrel which makes recoil enjoyable. It really eliminates the muzzle flip.


13 posted on 07/12/2006 5:20:22 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Sig 230 is the flavor of the day for me!


14 posted on 07/12/2006 5:22:22 AM PDT by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: cpdiii

Even in The People's Republic of California, that'd be the case (IIRC)--provided he was here legally.


15 posted on 07/12/2006 5:24:08 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: magslinger

Good point there. Gun control for thee, not for me.


16 posted on 07/12/2006 5:26:16 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus

Actually, I meant with regards to gun ownership. In CA it's pretty hard to a CCW permit regardless of what your nationality is.


17 posted on 07/12/2006 5:26:30 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: IrishMike
At 2 a.m. on Sunday, 27-year-old Alan Senitt was murdered. Senitt, an aspiring British politician, Jewish activist and Democratic volunteer, was walking home a female companion in the Georgetown area of Washington, D.C...

Poor situational awareness. I think a lot of Europeans become crime victims because they don't understand there are places you can't safely be at certain times. Then the European media depicts the entire US as a gun-filled free-for-all, when it's really a case of poor decision-making.

I have some friends from England who lived over here for a couple of years and toward the end of their stay they thought nothing of going into the city for dinner late at night, in neighborhoods I would never go to. They quickly got used to the crime-free suburbs and seemed to think that the whole area was kind of a well-policed theme park. There are "no-go" areas even for the police in English cities like Manchester, but because California isn't visibly run-down they couldn't draw the parallel. DC, with its prominent government buildings and monuments, probably exerts the same effect on foreign visitors.

18 posted on 07/12/2006 5:32:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Hiddigeigei

I like that story.

I won't say all or most, but many automobile drivers who drive daily to work, in suburban neighborhoods - have SOMETHING, easily and quickly reached close to or near the drivers seat.


19 posted on 07/12/2006 5:47:29 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: cpdiii
How about we "streamline" the process and institute Alaska style carry laws.

This would finally bring the States back in line with "shall not be infringed"... at least in regards to personal protection equipment.

20 posted on 07/12/2006 5:50:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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