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Jury Convicts Man Who Killed Woman Because She Was White (Hate Crime)
WFSB Hartford ^ | July 12, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/12/2006 6:05:06 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

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To: Stallone

Wait....is THAT a crime?

Not yet.


21 posted on 07/12/2006 6:41:41 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

ping


22 posted on 07/12/2006 6:47:27 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: misterrob

Wait til the ACLU appeals it on the basis that blacks can't be racist.


23 posted on 07/12/2006 6:50:16 AM PDT by kjo
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To: MissEdie
True, show me a love crime! In all honesty, what crimes committed against a person aren't hate crimes?

Lol. I've never heard that expression, "love crime."
It's a perfect way to describe the NONSENSE of "hate crime" and shows the entire idea as racist, sexist, bigoted and heterophobic.

Geez, punishing thoughts....that's SO stupid.

There is an old German song about "Thoughts are free." They aren't here any more. Sad.

24 posted on 07/12/2006 6:51:06 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Vaquero

OFFICER: OK Lebron, so do ya' understand your rights?
LEBRON: Ugghhhh...
OFFICER: YES OR NO, PUNK!?
LEBRON: Yeahhh.
OFFICER: Now it says here I got to ask you. Did ya' hate this broad?
LEBRON: Whhhaaaaat?
OFFICER: Did ya' hate her?
LEBRON: Whadda' you think, man? I didn't go buy her no damn flowers an' chocolates!
OFFICER: ANSWER THE QUESTION!
LEBRON: What ya' talkin' about? I damn wasted the fat bitch!
OFFICER: Hmmm. So ya' didn't hate her?


25 posted on 07/12/2006 6:55:05 AM PDT by Stallone (Mainstream Media is dead. I helped kill it.)
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To: misterrob
Wow, a black person was convicted of a hate crime...

who'd a thunk it?

Black people were charged and convinced of hate crimes for acts during a riot in Cincinnati a few years back as well.

That fact was almost unreported in the press.

I personally don't see the need to have special hate crimes laws to handle murders or other violent crimes baske on race or other factors. Someone who would kill another person just because of their physical attributes without knowing anything else about them is a seriously disturbed and dangerous person that should never be released back into society.

Their race or the race of the victim may matter to them, but it should not matter in the eyes of the law. We need to quit confusing politics with justice.

I am glad to see that the laws seem to be being applied equitably. However, I think lawmakers should quit adding complication to our laws for political reasons.

26 posted on 07/12/2006 6:56:37 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: starfish923
When THOUGHTS are crimes, we have gone too far to the STUPID side.

There is precedent...

Exodus 20:17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

27 posted on 07/12/2006 6:58:26 AM PDT by null and void (It's a crazy world. Someone ought to sell tickets.)
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To: Obadiah
Just what does it take to get a capital murder conviction and sentence?

Kill a senator. They have special laws protecting them.

So far no one has challenged this under the unequal protection clause...

28 posted on 07/12/2006 7:01:20 AM PDT by null and void (It's a crazy world. Someone ought to sell tickets.)
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To: AliVeritas
If he had killed a muslim, he would've gotten the death penalty. s/

If he had BEEN a muslum you would have the ACLU and half of Hollywood there protesting the trial.

29 posted on 07/12/2006 7:03:49 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: null and void

But God is specifically noted as having the ability to see into men's (and women's) souls, whereas mankind is specifically noted in the Bible as not having that ability. Therefore, God may judge intent and thought, whereas man can only adjudicate according to another man's actions.


30 posted on 07/12/2006 7:08:35 AM PDT by MortMan (There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Wow.... I'm sure that 'hate crime' designation means a hill of beans.

POC will be out in 20 years....

The death penalty would be a much better preventative measure of future offense than some scarlet letter for a deranged maniac.


31 posted on 07/12/2006 7:10:49 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Too soon... to forget. See United 93)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I regret this. Doesn't make a difference to the woman, and doesn't put the murderer on the gallows where he belongs, but it does go another step in the direction of "thought crime."


32 posted on 07/12/2006 7:12:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Time for jesse jackass to get his face on tv.


33 posted on 07/12/2006 7:12:17 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"Grant faces a sentence of 20 years to life to a hearing Sept. 11"

Hmmm...I guess he'll be out killing more blond haired blue eyed people in about 7 years.
34 posted on 07/12/2006 7:15:25 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: MortMan

True. But it is still, to the best of my knowledge, the first record of a thought crime.


35 posted on 07/12/2006 7:22:20 AM PDT by null and void (It's a crazy world. Someone ought to sell tickets.)
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To: chiefqc

When is is not???


36 posted on 07/12/2006 7:23:17 AM PDT by null and void (It's a crazy world. Someone ought to sell tickets.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

"20 years to life"? We're not in Canada, are we?


37 posted on 07/12/2006 7:27:29 AM PDT by Dionysius
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To: AliVeritas

What a ludicrous statement. No veritas in it AT ALL.


38 posted on 07/12/2006 7:31:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: starfish923
You are right to dislike them. ACTIONS are criminal, not thoughts. Who cares WHAT thoughts caused the actions, it was the ACTION for which one should be convicted.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- I'm thoroughly against the idea of "hate crimes" as a legal category. However, prosecutors should be allowed to introduce evidence of "hate bias" (or whatever you want to call it) in the trial phase in order to help establish motive and also in the sentencing phase to help establish whether or not to criminal remains a threat to others. But they can do that without having separate categories for "hate crimes" per se.

39 posted on 07/12/2006 7:37:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: chiefqc

Will the 'hate crime' bonus be concurrent or consecutive IF he is convicted?


40 posted on 07/12/2006 7:49:09 AM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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