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White House Statement on Hizballah Kidnapping //Rice: All sides must act with restraint
IMRA/White House/State Dept ^ | 7-12-06

Posted on 07/12/2006 1:25:31 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Brilliant
I don't see how you can kidnap someone and still be acting with restraint.

You can if you're a "moderate" terrorist.

41 posted on 07/12/2006 1:54:52 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: SE Mom
Hi Mom. I understand that Rice says what she is told, but I am not worried about her, I'm worried about the obvious coordinated attacks by Islamofascists, orchestrated by Iran, in alliance with Al Qaeda.

Modernity is under attack in many places (Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Israel, India, America, Britain, France, The Netherlands, Egypt, just to name a few) and we had better act quickly and strongly, we are emboldening the enemy.
42 posted on 07/12/2006 2:00:38 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O)) :-{>. . . .)
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To: SJackson

Bush, Rice, can stuff their "Restraints" in their ears.. hypocrites.


I hope the Jewboys light these scum muslums up.

I support Israel 100%. Period.

Go Israel.

God Bless Israel.

How about that?


43 posted on 07/12/2006 2:04:33 PM PDT by Praxeus
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To: Toespi

Even Michael Corleone knew that when you are at war, you need a “wartime consigliere”.

Which is why Rice should go to teach something and Bolton should be SOS.


44 posted on 07/12/2006 2:04:52 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice is Harriet Miers at State.)
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To: Toespi

Why are we trying be diplomatic? We're dealing with murderers and bandits and the countries enabling them.


45 posted on 07/12/2006 2:05:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: SJackson
Well, I think Israel should be restrained as they load their bombs into their planes, I think they should be VERY restrained as they bomb the he$$ out of the Beka Valley. They should also show restraint as they go after Nasrallah and be very careful that they don't hit anyone closer than 25 ft from the creature.

Yes, I agree Israel should show considerable restraint.

46 posted on 07/12/2006 2:10:08 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If the intelligence agencies can't find the leakers how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: SJackson

Quuite a contrast wouldn't you say between:

Hillary and Condi? Like night and day. Hillary as president wouldn't have rat's @ss clue of what to do in a situation like this, where Condi sharpen's her teeth with these kind of situations. To her it's like a football game.


47 posted on 07/12/2006 2:11:05 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: papabrody
"No Way! They have every right to not use restraint. Crossing an internationally recognized border to kidnap and kill is an "Act of War."

Does that also go for mexican illegals killing our border guards? The hell with amnesty, we need a declaration of WAR! ;-)

48 posted on 07/12/2006 2:17:45 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: groovejedi

Our SoS cannot speak to appeal to everyone all the time. She has to keep in mind who is her audience? Is Hez. or Hamas the audiance? I think the answer is NO, because if they were, then she would have to use a different tone. You don't release a statement that is directed at everyone in the world. It it directed at certain people and is worded appropriatley. What if.... one of our allies hears Dr. Rice say something like, "Isreal has US backing to completely level Damascus, and Tehran and anyone else they want to in retaliation for the kidnappings", Our allies would be wondering what the hell? Yeah it might scare the heck out of the Islamocrapheads, but would that really achieve anything? No, because unless it was really done, i.e. wiping these muslim crapheads off the face of the planet, they would only see it as weak of the US to say such things, without being really "series".... So in other words, she has to tone down her statement to appease allies and cannot call for more violence, even if she knows that is what is needed to end this.


49 posted on 07/12/2006 2:19:19 PM PDT by groovejedi
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To: Little Ray

I don't know because I am neither a diplomat or warrior. But I think we need a diplomat right now. If Israel explodes into a full blown war, the US will be immediately attacked in Iraq and we will be fully involved with Syria, Iran, Lebanon and probably SA. Then there is the wild card with North Korea and their missiles which incidentally, I find interesting at this time. Putin is making noise as well. Who knows what India and Pakistan would do, because of the recent train bombings. This could easily become a real World War with nuclear implications. Don't you think some restraint is a good idea at this time?


50 posted on 07/12/2006 2:19:24 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: groovejedi

oh yeah and .........../end rant


51 posted on 07/12/2006 2:20:35 PM PDT by groovejedi
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To: section9

Iran is about to be referred to the UN. If they mean what they've said in recent comments, the mullahs won't tolerate that. Therein lies the trigger.

SOS Rice's comments may be cover for the inevitable. And in the meantime, Israel doesn't look likely to heed any further calls for "restraint". Not for a while.


52 posted on 07/12/2006 2:21:19 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Toespi

I don't know if this would be entirely a bad thing. Its about time we got on a Total War footing.


53 posted on 07/12/2006 2:23:26 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: groovejedi

An absolute nonsense response.

Israel, a friend and ally, was attacked. Her soldiers were killed and kidnapped and her civilians were targeted.

There is no excuse in the World in asking Israel to show restraint. None. Zero.

Maybe it's too much to expect the US to show some affirmative support but to ask for restraint is disgraceful and cowardly.


54 posted on 07/12/2006 2:23:49 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice is Harriet Miers at State.)
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To: Sabramerican

There is too an excuse for asking Israel to show restraint.... it's called full scale thermo-nuclear warfare! If that isn't reason enough, then nothing is. So you want a SoS that encourages violence, even if it's called for, in this case, that violence could get way out of control, and fast! I was just saying that she can't be the one who says "kill 'em all" she has to be the one who says "please show restraint". You think that she and the pres. aren't on the phone with Olmert today anyway, he knows we got his back....


55 posted on 07/12/2006 2:28:05 PM PDT by groovejedi
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To: SJackson

One more "restraint" comment & I'm gonna scream. C'mon, Dr. Rice, find a better phrase. How 'bout "go for it, Israel, kick Hezbollah booty" or "Hamas' a$$ is grass."


56 posted on 07/12/2006 2:30:16 PM PDT by madison10 (Don't care how crazy he is...Tancredo for President)
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To: Little Ray

I think the US has to be practical. NK is itching to pull the trigger, and our only possible response would have to be with a nuclear weapon, as our resources are fully involved in the ME. A strike against NK would have to be immediate and devastating, without troop deployment. What would China and Russia do? An all out war in the ME against sovereign nations will be catastrophic and if this situation with Israel escatlates much further, our troops are going to be attacked in Iraq and we will respond. I see this thing exploding very rapidily, worldwide. Restraint and diplomacy is crucial at this time.


57 posted on 07/12/2006 2:35:58 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: madison10

Our church just put up a new message on it's lighted sign by the road.

It says:

Go Israel!


We are not wishywashy about Israel. Their enemies are our enemies.


58 posted on 07/12/2006 2:48:42 PM PDT by Praxeus
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To: Frank_Discussion
I have been convinced for some time that a way needed to be found for the Iranians to make the first overt hostile act. Remember, we could never move against the Japanese or the Germans unless they were foolish enough to attack us first. We can't touch Bashar or Natanz unless Ahmadhi-Nejad is stupid enough to rain Taepo-Dongs down on Tel Aviv and Haifa.

Then we can invoke our security arrangements with Israel and wipe the slate clean. Bush and Rice have their eye on the ball, of that I'm sure. It's all about making sure that Dinner Jacket overplays his hand. He's a fanatic; a smart and intelligent fanatic, but a fanatic, and fanatics always undo themselves.

He wants to make us attack him first. What if we don't? What if we provoke him with the hated Joooz? If the Israelis wipe out Hezboallah and Hamas, and he does nothing, he loses big time face to bin Laden and other radicals in the Jihadist movement. He has to do something with the missiles the Chia Pet sold him. Doesn't he? I mean, what if the Israelis kill Hezboallah and knock the Syrians around and then agree to a ceasefire arranged by, ...the Iraqis! Then whose up S**t Creek?

Unless, of course, Dinner Jacket is a big, fat, screaming paper tiger. What if that's been the case all along?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

59 posted on 07/12/2006 2:51:50 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: trisham
You know, a straight message and clear well defined policy can be the best diplomacy: it won't make any illusions and can achieve political goals better than a message that needs to be deciphered on multiple levels with a good probability of a mistake (like a message to Saddam before his attack in Kuwait).

How about a message to Syria: abandon all support of Hezbollah, or we will let Israel to take out you too? Israel kills Hezbollah. Lebanon loses its menace. Syria stays intact (for now). Clear and simple.
60 posted on 07/12/2006 3:18:39 PM PDT by Tolik
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