Posted on 07/13/2006 4:55:12 AM PDT by conservativecorner
Just been listening to Karl Rove's address to La Raza ("The Race"), the far-Left white-hating Hispanic lobbying group. You can hear the address here . It's 23 minutes and change.
It was pretty much WH boilerplate on immigration. "Hispanics, and all immigrants, are real Americans [So I guess illegal immigrants are 'real Americans'.] ... Mindful of the dignity and value of every human being... shared values... The President understands that immigration is a benefit for America... Current immigration system is broken [No it isn't. It just needs E-N-F-O-R-C-I-N-G]... Needs comprehensive solution... First, we must secure the borders [Five years after 9/11, we must secure the borders. Great idea!] ... The system's broken... Biometric ID card... All these measures will come to naught without a temporary worker program... Match willing employers with willing workers for jobs Americans will not do [And so long as the willing workers are Hispanic, I guess. Why shouldn't Chinese, Africans, Indonesians, Bangladeshis, Egyptians, etc. have a shot at being 'matched'?] ... Out of the shadows... We must address the status of the undocumented...
There was an odd little contradiction. At one point Rove seemed to claim that Mexicans just want to stay here a while to save money, to start a business in Mexico (which, said Rove, costs $5,000). Five minutes later he was talking about "Illegal immigrants who have roots in America... who want to stay..." What happened to those sojourning entrepreneurs, Karl?
And then there was the standard snow job on illegals "getting in line behind those who've applied legally..." Those who've applied legally, Karl, are waiting patiently **in their home countries** for the chance to come live in the USA. Some of them have been waiting for DECADES. If illegals are to wait in line behind them, then they too should go back to their home countries to wait. Seen from abroad, the great prize is not US citizenship; it's US residence. You are giving this tremendous prize away to law-breakers, many of whom couldn't care less about citizenship.
Rove's address included a long and implausible parallel between 19th-century Norwegian immigration (his own forebears were Norwegian) and present-day Hispanic immigration. "Norwegian immigration didn't occur without a backlash..." etc. The population of Norway in 1900 was 2.2m. Current population of Latin America: 470m. First rule of immigration: NUMBERS ARE OF THE ESSENCE.
The seems to be a lot of heckling and booing. Rove just talks right through it (making it hard to follow some of the address). He got a big cheer at the end when he mentioned Bill Richardson, though. Why? Because Richardson is half-Mexican. It's race, race, race. That's why they call themselves "The Race." My guess is that most of the people in that convention hall don't know where Norway is, and couldn't care less. As La Raza's sister organization Mecha says: "For those in the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing." Race, race, race—-that's what these people are all about. This is an outfit the administration wants to court?
It is shameful, shameful and disgraceful, that a senior adviser to our Republican President should be truckling and pandering to these Hispano-racists.
"Senate bill seeks more pay for aliens" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Senate bill seeks more pay for aliens
By Charles Hurt Washington Times July 13, 2006
The Senate immigration bill would require that foreign construction laborers here under the guest-worker program be paid well above the minimum wage, even as American workers at the same work site could earn less.
The bill "would guarantee wages to some foreign workers that could be higher than those paid to American workers at the same work site," says a policy paper released this week by the Senate's Republican Policy Committee. "This is unfair to U.S. workers, inappropriate, and unnecessary."
ME: Senators, you guys are going to regret the i word come November.
Be aware that Rove is the hidden hand behind RINO Rudy Guiliani's bid for the presidency which means Guiliani would be expected to carry-out the racist immigration atrocity Rove is advancing here.............in addition to RINO Rudy's support for gun grabbing, promoting tax-paid abortion on demand, and gay marriage.
No candidate could be more wrong for America than Guiliani.
Mind-numbing.
You would expect anything else out of this President? I support him on the WOT, but he is only giving lip service to border control and a whole host of other hotbutton issues.
A conservative he is not.
You can't seem to accept the fact that people can have legitimate differences of opinion.
"American". By every definition I have used since kindergarten EVERYONE in the Americas is American. Half my mon's sisters were Canadian, half were US. All of them and all Canadians and others in the Americas have alwasy been "Americans".
This is a debate like people from my Fundamentalist background claiming that only Protestant Fundamentalists are "Christian" and that Mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics and Orthodox Catholics and Coptic Catholics are not "Chrisitan".
There is a broader meaning to the words "American" and "Christian" that is used by most people. Then there is a narrower meaning to each word.
Should Rove be criticized if he appears before Catholics and includes them as "Christians" ?
Mr. President: What the H are you thinking?!?
The problem is that we KNOW what definition he is using.
"You just have a problem with brown people." Karl Rove
Actually, I just have a problem with Karl Rove and the traitorous actions he pushes.
I have no problem with "any color" people. I do have a problem with the Constitution being trampled upon and wide open borders 5 years after 9/11.
No. It's not "legitimate differences of opinion" that I cannot accept. It's the pandering to a very extreme group that is dedicated to the undermining of our distinctly American culture and our national sovereignty.
La Raza are fellow travelers with Mecha and the Aztlan advocates. Rove should not be pandering to a group such as this. It's up to them to prove that they hold to the American idea.
"Should Rove be criticized if he appears before Catholics and includes them as "Christians" ?"
Rove should espouse conservative ideas and agitate for them. That's all I ask.
My problem with Rove is "race baiting" a "law & order" issue.
If you don't already know this, the quote I posted was what Congressman J.D. Hayworth says Karl Rove told him.
When it is a question between the paymasters who put W. in office and the voters W. has never, ever, ever, ever chosen the latter. Why change now?
From Polipundit:
Those New Republican Voters? LOL LOL
Karl Rove (Republican) at the La Raza conference:
“But he drew scattered boos when he highlighted Bush’s recent approval of $1.9 billion in funding for more border security, including deployment of National Guard troops, and was disrupted twice by hecklers who unfurled antiwar and anti-Bush banners.”
Bill Richardson (Democrat) at the La Raza conference:
“New Mexico’s Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson outlined his own immigration plan — which was strikingly similar to Bush’s. Unlike Rove, however, he was not booed when he promoted tougher border security to crack down not only on illegal immigrants, he said, but also on drugs and violence.”
If the GOP doesn't smack this idiot down quick, they've lost my vote. Forever.
It looks like LaRaza is holding a political beauty contest -- an the Republican Party seriously thinks that they can compete. The only thing more futile is a Republican presidential candidate speaking before the NAACP. Why go when you're not really welcome?
I tried to explain to a poster the other day that we only got 40% of the Hispanic vote in the last election. Their reply? Ya, but it's an ever growing 40%. LOL! I kid you not.
Yeah fruity Rudy will prolly pile gay immigration rights on top of the GWBush-Senate amnesty
Makes my blood boil. Per Polipundit:
Voter ID For Mexicans In Mexico, But Not In Georgia
Looks like a Judge has stopped the Georgia identification law to vote:
“The same federal judge who threw out Georgia’s voter ID law last year blocked the state Wednesday from enforcing its revised law during this year’s elections.”
This is not a Judge following the law, he is practicing politics.
Once again per Polipundit:
La Raza Sucks On The Golden Teet
Well, I thought it was bad that Karl Rove went to speak to La Raza.
Could it get worse? Michelle Malkin has some detail:
“According to GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood of Georgia, The Race snapped up $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone and more than $30 million since 1996. Undisclosed amounts went to get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions. The U.S. Department of Education funneled nearly $8 million in taxpayer grants to the group for a nationwide charter schools initiative.”
She also reminds us of of the old “new tone” garbage:
The White House will tell you that The National Council of The Race is a “moderate,” mainstream civil rights group.
Michelle, if you read this, I want to defend The White House. I think you are the finest Conservative writer around but you need some nuance. “The Race” is indeed a “moderate” organization when the people making that claim are the same ones that called the Minutemen “vigilantes:”
“He (Bush) condemned the organizers of Project Minuteman as “vigilantes” even though they have broken no law and pledge not to do so.”
I have a question for political guru Karl Rove. Karl, how much of those “undisclosed amounts” that “went to get-out-the-vote efforts” supported Republican candidates or conservative positions?
He absorbs the slings and arrows because that's what his job entails. He IS a red herring.
Some folks think that Rove's "brilliant mind" is superior to the President's and that he leads GW into all paths.
I think it's the other way around. The President chooses to go down his own various political highways and byways and Rove goes to prepare the path for him.
Karl is also there to tidy up when wreckage accrues on the road. Hence his speech to La Raza, a speech actually aimed at anti-immigrationers everywhere via the media.
This is how things work in major league politics.
Leni
At least it was "Dirty Harry" that did this deed:
Cornyn Outs Harry Reid [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Via his office last night:
An amendment to help DHS end “Catch and Release” was just killed by Sen. Reid. He raised a “point of order” against the amendment, preventing a vote on Sen. Cornyn’s amendment.
That amendment was:
CORNYN AMENDMENT WOULD SPEED EXPEDITED REMOVAL, HELP END ‘CATCH AND RELEASE’
WASHINGTON—U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, chairman of the Immigration and Border Security subcommittee, offered an amendment to the pending homeland security funding bill Tuesday that would end the practice of “catch and release” for hundreds of illegal immigrants each week. The Cornyn amendment would require federal judges to take into account national security and border security when imposing any injunction that restricts the Department of Homeland Security’s ability to administer immigration laws. The amendment closes a current loophole in the law for illegal immigrants from El Salvador.
A 20-year-old injunction on the deportation of illegal immigrants from El Salvador created a situation where upwards of 600 Salvadorans are released into the United States every week rather than being deported as the law requires. Because of the injunction, the Department of Homeland Security is unable to apply Expedited Removal to Salvadorans. In the first few months of this year alone, the Border Patrol has already arrested more than 6,600 Salvadorans—they are now the largest OTM (Other Than Mexican) group illegally in the United States.
“This is a simple, commonsense approach to a serious problem,” Cornyn said. “This amendment would require judges to consider our national and border security before issuing any order that limits the ability of DHS to enforce the immigration laws. The alternative is to continue releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants into our cities every week. That alternative is unacceptable.”
Sens. Cornyn and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) are the authors of The Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act of 2005 (S.1438). The legislation will strengthen enforcement, bolster border security, and reform immigration laws.
I gotta ask. Would he show up to talk to the Klan? A Neo-Nazi group?
susie
Such a good question. When you get an answer will you ping me?? ;)
susie
No...it's broken.
The system cannot process enough immigrants needed to sustain our current economy [which has been a BOOM in any language] and status quo.
Favoring Mexican and Central Americans [read:christian catholic] is the safer route than the one taken by our "friends" in Europe. [read: muslims].
I notice you have DC in your moniker. LOL! Clueless is all I can say!
Sigh. Yup :)
But I suggest we don't hold our breath while we wait :(
how sad
Yet again, your side omits the key word "illegal" here. We are not anti-immigration. We are anti-illegal-immigration. And the omission is deliberate, an effort to paint the other side as xenophobic, nativist and even bigoted. In other words, the tactics of Jesse Jackson.
Good advice! ;)
susie
Have a pleasant day!
Bookmarked.
Fruity Rudy-----LOL-----love it.
No question, you are FR's resident poet.
IMNSHO, you should put down the bong and back away slowly.
I'm suggesting that they shouldn't be in our country. We can sort out our employment problems with fellow Americans who would love to have all the goodies showered on them just like it's showered on the illegals. I'm for LEGAL IMMIGRATION, and we can always increase or decrease the numbers as we see fit. First and foremost though is the protection of our borders and Constitution.
La Racistas.
I wholeheartedly agree.
But, for at least a generation, the local, county, state, and federal government....transcending party lines has decided not to do it.
So...why don't you run for political office on a platform that promises to deport everyone here illegally?
You'd garner many Freepers' votes...for sure.
But you'll lose in a landslide.
Really? Well I have a few polls that show how wrong you are:
Immigration Bills:
House vs. Senate
A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language, finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives’ enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies.
Click here for detailed analysis of the poll conducted April 17-24, 2006.
On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only twenty-six percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to sixty-seven percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.
While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, two percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology thought immigration was too low.
When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: sixty-nine percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; twenty-seven percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.
Support for the House approach was widespread, with eighty-one percent of Republicans, seventy-two percent of independents, fifty-seven percent of Democrats, and fifty-three percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.
When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, thought not as much as for the House bill: forty-two percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; fifty percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.
There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself, exceptions included Hispanics sixty-two percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea and the most liberal voters (progressives) fifty-four percent of whom approved of it.
When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and a policy of mass deportations in favor of the House bill; twenty-eight percent want the Senate plan, twelve percent want mass deportations; while fifty-six percent want the House approach.
But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach sixty-four percent version to thirty percent.
One reason the public does not like legalizations is that they are skeptical of need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of seventy-seven percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just fifteen percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.
Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that seventy-three percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.
Public also does not buy the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: seventy-one percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only nineteen percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.
Prefer Lower Numbers
Sixty-seven percent of Americans approve of the U.S. government deporting illegal immigrants to the country they came from.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006
Sixty-seven percent of Americans would you like to see the number of illegal immigrants currently in this country decreased.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006
Fifty-seven percent of registered voters believe the illegal immigration situation in the United States is "very serious" and twenty-nine percent believe it is "somewhat serious."
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006
Fifty-five percent of registered voters "favor" trying to send as many illegal immigrants back to their home countries as possible.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006
Seventy-seven percent of Americans think the United States is not doing enough to keep illegal immigrants from coming into this country.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll, May 11-15, 2006
Fifty-seven percent of Americans think the May 1, 2006 illegal alien solidarity protests did more to hurt their cause than help.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, April 21-24, 2006
Informed that U.S. population is projected to grow to 420 million by 2050, fifty-seven percent of respondents believed that the present U.S. population of 300 million or less would be best for the country in the long run.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Six of ten Americans, according to the poll, favor annual immigration (now one million yearly) of less than 600,000 a year. Forty-five percent of respondents favored annual immigration of less than 300,000. Overall, seventy-two percent of respondents favor an annual immigration level that is less than the current one million.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Fifty-six percent of Americans agree that a practical way to reduce to near zero the number of resident illegal aliens is legislation making penalties for illegal presence so severe that illegal immigrants would leave voluntarily rather than run the risk of being caught and penalized.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Two Americans in three (sixty-eight percent) agree that the United States should set a goal of completely halting new illegal immigration.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Over half of Americans (fifty-five percent) support the goal of reducing the population of 10 to 12 million illegal immigrants now residing in the United States "to near zero."
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
One hundred percent of Americans believe it is important that the government take steps this year to control U.S. borders to halt the flow of illegal aliens.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
Eighty-one percent of Americans believe that illegal immigration to the United States is "out of control."
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
Almost all Americans (eighty-seven percent) say they are concerned illegals will overburden government services, including 61 percent that are "very" concerned and another 26 percent that are "somewhat" concerned.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Almost all Americans (ninety percent) say illegal immigration is a "very" serious (sixty percent) or "somewhat" serious (thirty percent) problem for the country today — essentially unchanged from a year ago this time.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
The majority of Republicans (sixty-five percent) and Democrats (fifty-eight percent) say illegal immigration is a "very" serious problem.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Sixty-one percent said they are less likely to be sympathetic to illegal aliens as a result of the protests.
Zogby Poll, March 31-April 3, 2006
Eighty-two percent say that the United States is not doing enough to keep illegals from entering this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Sixty-one percent say they are "very concerned" that illegal aliens cost taxpayers too much money to provide them with services.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Sixty-two percent of Americans polled said they want their own congressional representative to support more restrictive policies governing immigration.
Zogby Poll, released March 19, 2006 / conducted February 3-7, 2006
Fifty-seven percent of American voters polled say illegal immigration into the U.S. is a "very serious problem."
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006
Eighty-three percent of American immigrant voters, or the children or grandchildren of immigrants, say illegal immigration is a serious problem.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006
Sixty-two percent of American voters are opposed to making it easier for illegal immigrants to become citizens, with immigrant families opposed fifty-six percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006
Seventy-three percent of Californians say they are concerned to some degree about illegal immigration, with forty-three percent being "extremely concerned."
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006
Fifty-seven percent of California voters say illegal immigration is having a negative effect on the state.
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006
Sixty percent of Americans polled say there are already too many people in the U.S. without adding illegal aliens.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Eighty-nine percent of Americans polled say illegal immigration into the U.S. is a problem.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Oppose Amnesty
By eight-to-one, Americans think it is unfair to grant rights to illegal immigrants while thousands of people wait each year to come to the United States legally. Fully eighty-six percent of Republicans think it is unfair, as do seventy-seven percent of Democrats.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Sixty-five percent of those surveyed said they would be willing to pay significantly higher prices for some goods and services should that be the result of tighter control of the southern U.S. border and a resulting lower number of undocumented workers.
Zogby Poll, March 31-April 3, 2006
Fifty-six percent of Americans polled say the U.S. should NOT grant temporary-worker status to foreigners who are here illegally, as this would make them and their families eligible for government services while they are here. We should not reward people who have broken the law, and this will encourage even more people to enter the United States illegally.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, March 10-13, 2006
Protect Jobs and Wages
Sixty percent of Americans favor imposing fines of tens of thousands of dollars on employers who hire illegal immigrants.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006
Eighty-one percent of Americans polled support strict criminal penalties on employers who, after repeatedly being cited, persist in knowingly hiring illegal aliens.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Eighty-four percent of Americans believe the most effective way to reduce illegal immigration is to cut off the employment incentive for coming here by instituting tough penalties for businesses that hire illegal immigrants. More than half think this would be "very effective," and another 32% say it would be "somewhat effective."
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
Fifty-nine percent of black California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Sixty percent of California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Seventy-three percent of Americans favor imposing fines and criminal charges against employers who hire illegals.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
More than ninety percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed believe illegal immigration is a problem. Seventy percent rank it as a "very serious" or "serious" problem.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Eighty-six percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed say illegal immigration should have a "very high" or "high" priority for Congress and the Bush administration.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants if they only need to prove that they have been living in the U.S. for at least three years.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by seventy-eight percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Seventy-one percent support major penalties for employers who hire illegals.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Seventy-six percent of Americans polled are concerned that American workers can't afford to work for the same low wages as illegal aliens.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Sixty-three percent of Americans polled are concerned about illegal aliens taking away jobs from American workers.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Seventy-four percent of Americans polled favor providing major penalties for employers convicted of hiring illegal aliens and strongly enforcing it.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Eighty percent on Arizona voters favor penalizing businesses that hire illegal aliens.
KAET-TV and Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication poll, January 19-22, 2006
Support Tougher Enforcement
72 percent of all New York State residents say that entering the United States without valid immigration documents should be made a criminal offense.
2006 Empire State Poll; July 2006
Seventy-eight percent of Americans favor putting more Border Patrol and federal law enforcement agents on the U.S. border with Mexico.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006
Fifty-six percent of Americans favor sending National Guard troops to the U.S. border with Mexico.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006
Seventy-nine percent of registered voters "favor" increasing the number of federal agents patrolling the border to stop illegal immigration.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006
Sixty-three percent of registered voters "favor" using thousands of National Guard troops temporarily to help border patrol agents along the Mexican border to stop illegal immigration.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006
Sixty-two percent of Americans say they would favor stationing 6,000 National Guard troops in a support capacity at the U.S.-Mexico border to try to stop illegal immigration.
CBS News Poll, May 16-17, 2006
Sixty-eight percent of Americans think stationing National Guard troops at the U.S.-Mexico border would be effective in reducing the number of illegal immigrants to the U.S.
CBS News Poll, May 16-17, 2006
Seventy-four percent of Americans support using National Guard troops to patrol the U.S. border with Mexico.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll, May 12-14, 2006
Seventy-four percent of Americans support using National Guard troops to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border.
Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 14-16, 2006
Of those Americans polled who favored the goal of halting new illegal immigration, 64 percent support tough penalties against violators such as fines and mandatory prison terms, followed by deportation.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Of those Americans polled who favored reducing to near zero the number of resident illegal aliens, 72 percent of that group also support tough penalties against violators such as fines and mandatory prison terms, followed by deportation.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Sixty-one percent of Americans support making illegal immigration a crime, and fifty-two percent support making it a crime to knowingly assist an illegal alien.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
Sixty percent of Americans believe not allowing illegal aliens to use American schools and hospitals would be effective at reducing illegal immigration: thirty percent call this very effective and 30 percent say it is somewhat effective.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
The vast majority of Americans also see value in beefing up the number of border control officers: thirty-seven percent call this very effective and forty-four percent say it is somewhat effective.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006
Sixty-six percent of black California voters favor building a wall along major sections of the border between the U.S. and Mexico to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Sixty-four percent of California voters oppose allowing illegal aliens to obtain a driver's license in California.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Fifty-seven percent of Americans polled favor deporting as many illegals as possible.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Fifty-five percent of Americans polled favor using the U.S. military to stop entry at the borders.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Eighty percent of Americans polled favor increasing the number of border patrol agents.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006
Americans would limit illegals' access to government services, such as driver’s licenses (sixty-nine percent not allow), health care/food stamps (seventy-five percent not allow), and attending public schools (fifty-one percent not allow).
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Sixty-two percent favor taking whatever steps are necessary at the borders, including the use of the military, to cut the flow of illegals into this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Fifty-six percent favor building a security fence along the U.S.-Mexican border.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006
Seventy-one percent of Americans polled say they are more likely to vote for a Congressional Candidate who favors tighter controls on illegal immigration.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, March 10-13, 2006
Seventy-one percent of Americans polled say they are concerned that illegal aliens increase the amount of crime.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Seventy percent of Americans polled are concerned that illegal aliens increase the likelihood of terrorism in the United States.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Seventy-four percent of Americans polled say the U.S. isn't doing enough along its borders to keep illegal aliens from crossing into this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Oppose Rewards for
Illegal Migration
Fifty-three percent of Americans polled support legislation to deny automatic U.S. citizenship to children born here to parents who are illegal aliens.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006
Sixty-two percent of California voters oppose driver's licenses for illegal aliens.
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006
Seventy-two percent of American voters are opposed to allowing illegal immigrants to get drivers' licenses, with immigrant voter families opposed sixty-six percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006
Eighty-four percent of American voters are in favor of requiring proof of legal residency in order to obtain government benefits, with immigrant voter families in support eighty percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006
Eighty-three percent of Americans polled are concerned that it costs taxpayers too much money to provide illegal aliens with services such as health care and education.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006
Hispanics on Immigration
Forty-six percent of Mexicans (approximately 46 million people) would immigrate to the United States and more than 20% of them would enter illegally if given the chance. Specifically:
65% of U.S.-born Latinos say Immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Twenty-eight percent of U.S.-born Latinos say immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Eighty-nine percent of foreign-born Latinos say immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Five percent of foreign-born Latinos say immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Eighty percent of all Latinos say immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Fourteen percent of all Latinos say Immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Sixty percent of U.S.-born Latinos approve restricting driver's licenses to U.S. citizens or legal immigrants.
Twenty-nine percent of foreign-born Latinos approve restricting driver's licenses to U.S. citizens or legal immigrants.
Forty-five percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 7 times minimum wage.
Forty-five percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 3-7 times minimum wage.
Forty-seven percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 0-3 times minimum wage.
Pew Hispanic Center poll, August 2005
Black Americans on Immigration
Sixty-six percent of black California voters favor building a wall along major sections of the border between the U.S. and Mexico to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Fifty-nine percent of black California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006
Union Members on Immigration
Former Calif. Governor Gray Davis' granting of drivers licenses to illegal aliens was cited as a key reason why 31 percent of Democrats in unions were likely to vote to recall him.
Los Angeles Times Poll, September 2003
Business Owners on Immigration
More than ninety percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed believe illegal immigration is a problem. Seventy percent rank it as a "very serious" or "serious" problem.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Eighty-six percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed say illegal immigration should have a "very high" or "high" priority for Congress and the Bush administration.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants if they only need to prove that they have been living in the U.S. for at least three years.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by seventy-eight percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006
Moderates and Independents on Immigration
President Bush's job approval rating has dropped by 10 percentile from 60 to 50 percent. His approval rating matches the lowest of his entire presidency, and his disapproval rating is now at the highest ever at 45 percent. One of the three main reasons for the decline in the President's popularity is his wildly unpopular amnesty/guest worker proposal. Most of the President's huge decline in popularity has been among Independents.
CBS New Poll, January 2004
Women on Immigration
Over half (fifty-six percent) of women think legal immigration should be reduced. Only 10 percent of women think legal immigration should be increased.
CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001
A majority of women (eighty-four percent) think the United States has made it too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.
CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001
Opinion Elites vs. Public
Fifty-four percent of those polled disapprove of President Bush's handling of immigration issues -- his lowest rating on any issue other than the budget deficit.
CNN/Gallup/USA Today poll, January 2005
I reiterate.....Rove was ostensibly addressing a La Raza audience but he was actually lobbing trite warning phrases to anti-immigrationists as well as anti-illegal immigrationists (as you correctly added to my thought).
My main point was that Rove is a combination stalking horse, red herring and lightning rod for his boss's policies and not the 100% powerful "l'eminence grise" people think he is. I believe the President originated his own personal shamnesty policy and Rove has, does and will go along with it.
Yet Rove is the center of attention with many folks on this thread. Evidence that the "lightning rod" political ploy utilized to deflect criticism from presidents continues to be effective.
Leni
You don't expect me to read that do you?
I am not one to be dazzled with Bullsh*t. ;^)
Interesting. So by 'American' you mean anyone living in either North or South America? Typically, when people in the U.S. say "American" they are refering to U.S. citizens. Are you a U.S. citizen? (Just curious as to where you got this very un-American way of defining 'American. LOL)
I don't care if ya read it or not. You made a statement that I clearly blew out of the water with dozens and dozens of polls. Your mind is made up, and I'm not trying to change it. I'm merely questioning your statements based on facts and not your conjecture.
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