Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Rove Flatters Racists
NRO ^ | July 13, 2006 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 07/13/2006 4:55:12 AM PDT by conservativecorner

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

1 posted on 07/13/2006 4:55:12 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

"Senate bill seeks more pay for aliens" [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Senate bill seeks more pay for aliens

By Charles Hurt Washington Times July 13, 2006

The Senate immigration bill would require that foreign construction laborers here under the guest-worker program be paid well above the minimum wage, even as American workers at the same work site could earn less.

The bill "would guarantee wages to some foreign workers that could be higher than those paid to American workers at the same work site," says a policy paper released this week by the Senate's Republican Policy Committee. "This is unfair to U.S. workers, inappropriate, and unnecessary."

ME: Senators, you guys are going to regret the i word come November.


2 posted on 07/13/2006 4:57:38 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

Be aware that Rove is the hidden hand behind RINO Rudy Guiliani's bid for the presidency which means Guiliani would be expected to carry-out the racist immigration atrocity Rove is advancing here.............in addition to RINO Rudy's support for gun grabbing, promoting tax-paid abortion on demand, and gay marriage.

No candidate could be more wrong for America than Guiliani.


3 posted on 07/13/2006 5:23:42 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
The bill "would guarantee wages to some foreign workers that could be higher than those paid to American workers at the same work site," says a policy paper released this week by the Senate's Republican Policy Committee. "This is unfair to U.S. workers, inappropriate, and unnecessary."

Mind-numbing.

4 posted on 07/13/2006 5:23:48 AM PDT by itsinthebag (E)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Liz
It is shameful, shameful and disgraceful, that a senior adviser to our Republican President should be truckling and pandering to these Hispano-racists.

You would expect anything else out of this President? I support him on the WOT, but he is only giving lip service to border control and a whole host of other hotbutton issues.

A conservative he is not.

5 posted on 07/13/2006 5:26:23 AM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: sauropod

You can't seem to accept the fact that people can have legitimate differences of opinion.

"American". By every definition I have used since kindergarten EVERYONE in the Americas is American. Half my mon's sisters were Canadian, half were US. All of them and all Canadians and others in the Americas have alwasy been "Americans".

This is a debate like people from my Fundamentalist background claiming that only Protestant Fundamentalists are "Christian" and that Mainline Protestants and Roman Catholics and Orthodox Catholics and Coptic Catholics are not "Chrisitan".

There is a broader meaning to the words "American" and "Christian" that is used by most people. Then there is a narrower meaning to each word.

Should Rove be criticized if he appears before Catholics and includes them as "Christians" ?


6 posted on 07/13/2006 5:37:56 AM PDT by spintreebob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: sauropod
43's fighting and winning the WOT with one hand, and dealing away our sovereignty with the other.

Mr. President: What the H are you thinking?!?

7 posted on 07/13/2006 5:40:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: spintreebob

The problem is that we KNOW what definition he is using.


8 posted on 07/13/2006 5:41:29 AM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration.......(`'..').......Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

"You just have a problem with brown people." Karl Rove


9 posted on 07/13/2006 5:41:33 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Actually, I just have a problem with Karl Rove and the traitorous actions he pushes.


10 posted on 07/13/2006 5:42:34 AM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration.......(`'..').......Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: spintreebob
Would he be criticized for meeting with the KKK? If you answer yes, please explain why this racist organization should receive different treatment?
11 posted on 07/13/2006 5:56:28 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I have no problem with "any color" people. I do have a problem with the Constitution being trampled upon and wide open borders 5 years after 9/11.


12 posted on 07/13/2006 5:58:24 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: spintreebob
"You can't seem to accept the fact that people can have legitimate differences of opinion."

No. It's not "legitimate differences of opinion" that I cannot accept. It's the pandering to a very extreme group that is dedicated to the undermining of our distinctly American culture and our national sovereignty.

La Raza are fellow travelers with Mecha and the Aztlan advocates. Rove should not be pandering to a group such as this. It's up to them to prove that they hold to the American idea.

"Should Rove be criticized if he appears before Catholics and includes them as "Christians" ?"

Rove should espouse conservative ideas and agitate for them. That's all I ask.

13 posted on 07/13/2006 5:59:04 AM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: WayneM

My problem with Rove is "race baiting" a "law & order" issue.

If you don't already know this, the quote I posted was what Congressman J.D. Hayworth says Karl Rove told him.


14 posted on 07/13/2006 6:02:35 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

When it is a question between the paymasters who put W. in office and the voters W. has never, ever, ever, ever chosen the latter. Why change now?


15 posted on 07/13/2006 6:02:56 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit ("my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side" - Lincoln)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: spintreebob

From Polipundit:

Those New Republican Voters? LOL LOL


Karl Rove (Republican) at the La Raza conference:

“But he drew scattered boos when he highlighted Bush’s recent approval of $1.9 billion in funding for more border security, including deployment of National Guard troops, and was disrupted twice by hecklers who unfurled antiwar and anti-Bush banners.”

Bill Richardson (Democrat) at the La Raza conference:

“New Mexico’s Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson outlined his own immigration plan — which was strikingly similar to Bush’s. Unlike Rove, however, he was not booed when he promoted tougher border security to crack down not only on illegal immigrants, he said, but also on drugs and violence.”


16 posted on 07/13/2006 6:12:07 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

If the GOP doesn't smack this idiot down quick, they've lost my vote. Forever.


17 posted on 07/13/2006 6:14:32 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

It looks like LaRaza is holding a political beauty contest -- an the Republican Party seriously thinks that they can compete. The only thing more futile is a Republican presidential candidate speaking before the NAACP. Why go when you're not really welcome?


18 posted on 07/13/2006 6:16:51 AM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ace of Spades

I tried to explain to a poster the other day that we only got 40% of the Hispanic vote in the last election. Their reply? Ya, but it's an ever growing 40%. LOL! I kid you not.


19 posted on 07/13/2006 6:18:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

20 posted on 07/13/2006 6:18:39 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Liz

Yeah fruity Rudy will prolly pile gay immigration rights on top of the GWBush-Senate amnesty


21 posted on 07/13/2006 6:19:29 AM PDT by dennisw (I've got my burner, y'all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Ace of Spades

Makes my blood boil. Per Polipundit:

Voter ID For Mexicans In Mexico, But Not In Georgia


Looks like a Judge has stopped the Georgia identification law to vote:

“The same federal judge who threw out Georgia’s voter ID law last year blocked the state Wednesday from enforcing its revised law during this year’s elections.”

This is not a Judge following the law, he is practicing politics.


22 posted on 07/13/2006 6:20:48 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

23 posted on 07/13/2006 6:23:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ace of Spades

Once again per Polipundit:

La Raza Sucks On The Golden Teet


Well, I thought it was bad that Karl Rove went to speak to La Raza.

Could it get worse? Michelle Malkin has some detail:

“According to GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood of Georgia, The Race snapped up $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone and more than $30 million since 1996. Undisclosed amounts went to get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions. The U.S. Department of Education funneled nearly $8 million in taxpayer grants to the group for a nationwide charter schools initiative.”

She also reminds us of of the old “new tone” garbage:

The White House will tell you that The National Council of The Race is a “moderate,” mainstream civil rights group.

Michelle, if you read this, I want to defend The White House. I think you are the finest Conservative writer around but you need some nuance. “The Race” is indeed a “moderate” organization when the people making that claim are the same ones that called the Minutemen “vigilantes:”

“He (Bush) condemned the organizers of Project Minuteman as “vigilantes” even though they have broken no law and pledge not to do so.”


I have a question for political guru Karl Rove. Karl, how much of those “undisclosed amounts” that “went to get-out-the-vote efforts” supported Republican candidates or conservative positions?


24 posted on 07/13/2006 6:25:30 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
Some posters on this thread get it......Rove is the lightening rod for the president......one of the oldest political tricks in the book.

He absorbs the slings and arrows because that's what his job entails. He IS a red herring.

Some folks think that Rove's "brilliant mind" is superior to the President's and that he leads GW into all paths.

I think it's the other way around. The President chooses to go down his own various political highways and byways and Rove goes to prepare the path for him.

Karl is also there to tidy up when wreckage accrues on the road. Hence his speech to La Raza, a speech actually aimed at anti-immigrationers everywhere via the media.

This is how things work in major league politics.

Leni

25 posted on 07/13/2006 6:38:49 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("We will fight them on the beaches, on the streets, in the radical mosques.....hasta la vista, baby")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MinuteGal

At least it was "Dirty Harry" that did this deed:

Cornyn Outs Harry Reid [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Via his office last night:


An amendment to help DHS end “Catch and Release” was just killed by Sen. Reid. He raised a “point of order” against the amendment, preventing a vote on Sen. Cornyn’s amendment.



That amendment was:

CORNYN AMENDMENT WOULD SPEED EXPEDITED REMOVAL, HELP END ‘CATCH AND RELEASE’

WASHINGTON—U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, chairman of the Immigration and Border Security subcommittee, offered an amendment to the pending homeland security funding bill Tuesday that would end the practice of “catch and release” for hundreds of illegal immigrants each week. The Cornyn amendment would require federal judges to take into account national security and border security when imposing any injunction that restricts the Department of Homeland Security’s ability to administer immigration laws. The amendment closes a current loophole in the law for illegal immigrants from El Salvador.

A 20-year-old injunction on the deportation of illegal immigrants from El Salvador created a situation where upwards of 600 Salvadorans are released into the United States every week rather than being deported as the law requires. Because of the injunction, the Department of Homeland Security is unable to apply Expedited Removal to Salvadorans. In the first few months of this year alone, the Border Patrol has already arrested more than 6,600 Salvadorans—they are now the largest OTM (Other Than Mexican) group illegally in the United States.

“This is a simple, commonsense approach to a serious problem,” Cornyn said. “This amendment would require judges to consider our national and border security before issuing any order that limits the ability of DHS to enforce the immigration laws. The alternative is to continue releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants into our cities every week. That alternative is unacceptable.”

Sens. Cornyn and Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) are the authors of The Comprehensive Enforcement and Immigration Reform Act of 2005 (S.1438). The legislation will strengthen enforcement, bolster border security, and reform immigration laws.



26 posted on 07/13/2006 6:43:26 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

I gotta ask. Would he show up to talk to the Klan? A Neo-Nazi group?
susie


27 posted on 07/13/2006 6:44:49 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mewzilla

Such a good question. When you get an answer will you ping me?? ;)
susie


28 posted on 07/13/2006 6:49:38 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
Current immigration system is broken [No it isn't. It just needs E-N-F-O-R-C-I-N-G]..

No...it's broken.

The system cannot process enough immigrants needed to sustain our current economy [which has been a BOOM in any language] and status quo.

Favoring Mexican and Central Americans [read:christian catholic] is the safer route than the one taken by our "friends" in Europe. [read: muslims].

29 posted on 07/13/2006 6:58:05 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot

I notice you have DC in your moniker. LOL! Clueless is all I can say!


30 posted on 07/13/2006 7:01:55 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: brytlea
Such a good question. When you get an answer will you ping me?? ;)

Sigh. Yup :)

But I suggest we don't hold our breath while we wait :(

31 posted on 07/13/2006 7:06:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Spiff

how sad


32 posted on 07/13/2006 7:07:12 AM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MinuteGal
Hence his speech to La Raza, a speech actually aimed at anti-immigrationers everywhere via the media.

Yet again, your side omits the key word "illegal" here. We are not anti-immigration. We are anti-illegal-immigration. And the omission is deliberate, an effort to paint the other side as xenophobic, nativist and even bigoted. In other words, the tactics of Jesse Jackson.

33 posted on 07/13/2006 7:10:06 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
That's it. I'm now leaning third party next election cycle. The repubs have grown the federal budget 2-3 times the inflation rate, the tax cuts are not permanent and I'm barraged daily about the need for "comprehensive immigration reform", and if Karl Rove is kissing up to "The Race" it doesn't sound like anyone is interested in eliminating Affirmative Action or Welfare.

The repubs are the lessor of two evils, but still very evil.
34 posted on 07/13/2006 7:10:48 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mewzilla

Good advice! ;)
susie


35 posted on 07/13/2006 7:11:15 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
I live in the DC region but herald from the Peoples Republic of Maryland...in Montgomery County where illegal immigrants flourish and are a protected species.

Have a pleasant day!

36 posted on 07/13/2006 7:12:15 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot
Let me explain something else to ya Patriot. I'm for a free market economy, and I will assume that you are for this as well. Free markets work with something called "supply and demand". It works great at finding equilibrium unless you provide artificial stimulus on either side of the equation. When you allow 20 million illegal aliens to work in this country, you are stealing from ordinary Americans who would be paid more but for the artificial dampening of wages by undocumented labor. This is as basic as it gets, and one of the first things you learn in Econ classes. Send them all home to apply like everyone else on the PLANET. Walking into our country gives them no more rights or privileges than anyone else looking to make America their home. You typify the DC mindset of both the Senate and President. You will lose this fight, and are losing this fight as I type this post.
37 posted on 07/13/2006 7:13:01 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner

Bookmarked.


38 posted on 07/13/2006 7:14:19 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (Loose lips sink ships and the NYT is the Bermuda triangle.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dennisw

Fruity Rudy-----LOL-----love it.

No question, you are FR's resident poet.


39 posted on 07/13/2006 7:17:34 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
Are you suggesting that the current unemployment rate of 4.4% would fill the void in your supply and demand analogy?

IMNSHO, you should put down the bong and back away slowly.

40 posted on 07/13/2006 7:18:39 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot

I'm suggesting that they shouldn't be in our country. We can sort out our employment problems with fellow Americans who would love to have all the goodies showered on them just like it's showered on the illegals. I'm for LEGAL IMMIGRATION, and we can always increase or decrease the numbers as we see fit. First and foremost though is the protection of our borders and Constitution.


41 posted on 07/13/2006 7:22:51 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
La Raza

La Racistas.

42 posted on 07/13/2006 7:25:03 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
First and foremost though is the protection of our borders and Constitution.

I wholeheartedly agree.

But, for at least a generation, the local, county, state, and federal government....transcending party lines has decided not to do it.

So...why don't you run for political office on a platform that promises to deport everyone here illegally?

You'd garner many Freepers' votes...for sure.

But you'll lose in a landslide.

43 posted on 07/13/2006 7:26:08 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot

Really? Well I have a few polls that show how wrong you are:

Immigration Bills:
House vs. Senate

A new Zogby poll of likely voters, using neutral language, finds that Americans prefer the House of Representatives’ enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration. The poll was conducted for the Center for Immigration Studies.

Click here for detailed analysis of the poll conducted April 17-24, 2006.

On immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration. Only twenty-six percent said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels, compared to sixty-seven percent who said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.

While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, two percent of Americans believe current immigration is too low. This was true for virtually every grouping in the survey by ethnicity, income, age, religion, region, party, or ideology thought immigration was too low.

When offered by itself, there is strong support for the House bill: sixty-nine percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; twenty-seven percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

Support for the House approach was widespread, with eighty-one percent of Republicans, seventy-two percent of independents, fifty-seven percent of Democrats, and fifty-three percent of Hispanics saying it was good or very good idea.

When offered by itself, there is also some support for the Senate approach, thought not as much as for the House bill: forty-two percent said the Senate approach was a good or very good idea when told it would allow illegal immigrants to apply for legal status provided they met certain criteria, and it would significantly increase legal immigration and increase enforcement of immigration laws; fifty percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.

There were few groups in which a majority supported the Senate plan, even when presented by itself, exceptions included Hispanics sixty-two percent of whom said it was a good or very good idea and the most liberal voters (progressives) fifty-four percent of whom approved of it.

When given three choices (House approach, Senate approach, or mass deportation), the public tends to reject both the Senate plan and a policy of mass deportations in favor of the House bill; twenty-eight percent want the Senate plan, twelve percent want mass deportations; while fifty-six percent want the House approach.

But when given a choice between just the House and Senate approaches, without the choice of mass deportations, the public prefers the House approach sixty-four percent version to thirty percent.

One reason the public does not like legalizations is that they are skeptical of need for illegal-immigrant labor. An overwhelming majority of seventy-seven percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better; just fifteen percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs.

Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is that seventy-three percent said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

Public also does not buy the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law: seventy-one percent felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate," while only nineteen percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.

Prefer Lower Numbers

Sixty-seven percent of Americans approve of the U.S. government deporting illegal immigrants to the country they came from.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Sixty-seven percent of Americans would you like to see the number of illegal immigrants currently in this country decreased.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Fifty-seven percent of registered voters believe the illegal immigration situation in the United States is "very serious" and twenty-nine percent believe it is "somewhat serious."
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006

Fifty-five percent of registered voters "favor" trying to send as many illegal immigrants back to their home countries as possible.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006

Seventy-seven percent of Americans think the United States is not doing enough to keep illegal immigrants from coming into this country.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll, May 11-15, 2006

Fifty-seven percent of Americans think the May 1, 2006 illegal alien solidarity protests did more to hurt their cause than help.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, April 21-24, 2006

Informed that U.S. population is projected to grow to 420 million by 2050, fifty-seven percent of respondents believed that the present U.S. population of 300 million or less would be best for the country in the long run.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Six of ten Americans, according to the poll, favor annual immigration (now one million yearly) of less than 600,000 a year. Forty-five percent of respondents favored annual immigration of less than 300,000. Overall, seventy-two percent of respondents favor an annual immigration level that is less than the current one million.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Fifty-six percent of Americans agree that a practical way to reduce to near zero the number of resident illegal aliens is legislation making penalties for illegal presence so severe that illegal immigrants would leave voluntarily rather than run the risk of being caught and penalized.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Two Americans in three (sixty-eight percent) agree that the United States should set a goal of completely halting new illegal immigration.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Over half of Americans (fifty-five percent) support the goal of reducing the population of 10 to 12 million illegal immigrants now residing in the United States "to near zero."
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

One hundred percent of Americans believe it is important that the government take steps this year to control U.S. borders to halt the flow of illegal aliens.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Eighty-one percent of Americans believe that illegal immigration to the United States is "out of control."
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Almost all Americans (eighty-seven percent) say they are concerned illegals will overburden government services, including 61 percent that are "very" concerned and another 26 percent that are "somewhat" concerned.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Almost all Americans (ninety percent) say illegal immigration is a "very" serious (sixty percent) or "somewhat" serious (thirty percent) problem for the country today — essentially unchanged from a year ago this time.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

The majority of Republicans (sixty-five percent) and Democrats (fifty-eight percent) say illegal immigration is a "very" serious problem.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Sixty-one percent said they are less likely to be sympathetic to illegal aliens as a result of the protests.
Zogby Poll, March 31-April 3, 2006

Eighty-two percent say that the United States is not doing enough to keep illegals from entering this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Sixty-one percent say they are "very concerned" that illegal aliens cost taxpayers too much money to provide them with services.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Sixty-two percent of Americans polled said they want their own congressional representative to support more restrictive policies governing immigration.
Zogby Poll, released March 19, 2006 / conducted February 3-7, 2006

Fifty-seven percent of American voters polled say illegal immigration into the U.S. is a "very serious problem."
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006

Eighty-three percent of American immigrant voters, or the children or grandchildren of immigrants, say illegal immigration is a serious problem.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006

Sixty-two percent of American voters are opposed to making it easier for illegal immigrants to become citizens, with immigrant families opposed fifty-six percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006

Seventy-three percent of Californians say they are concerned to some degree about illegal immigration, with forty-three percent being "extremely concerned."
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006

Fifty-seven percent of California voters say illegal immigration is having a negative effect on the state.
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006

Sixty percent of Americans polled say there are already too many people in the U.S. without adding illegal aliens.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Eighty-nine percent of Americans polled say illegal immigration into the U.S. is a problem.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Oppose Amnesty

By eight-to-one, Americans think it is unfair to grant rights to illegal immigrants while thousands of people wait each year to come to the United States legally. Fully eighty-six percent of Republicans think it is unfair, as do seventy-seven percent of Democrats.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Sixty-five percent of those surveyed said they would be willing to pay significantly higher prices for some goods and services should that be the result of tighter control of the southern U.S. border and a resulting lower number of undocumented workers.
Zogby Poll, March 31-April 3, 2006

Fifty-six percent of Americans polled say the U.S. should NOT grant temporary-worker status to foreigners who are here illegally, as this would make them and their families eligible for government services while they are here. We should not reward people who have broken the law, and this will encourage even more people to enter the United States illegally.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, March 10-13, 2006

Protect Jobs and Wages

Sixty percent of Americans favor imposing fines of tens of thousands of dollars on employers who hire illegal immigrants.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Eighty-one percent of Americans polled support strict criminal penalties on employers who, after repeatedly being cited, persist in knowingly hiring illegal aliens.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Eighty-four percent of Americans believe the most effective way to reduce illegal immigration is to cut off the employment incentive for coming here by instituting tough penalties for businesses that hire illegal immigrants. More than half think this would be "very effective," and another 32% say it would be "somewhat effective."
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Fifty-nine percent of black California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Sixty percent of California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Seventy-three percent of Americans favor imposing fines and criminal charges against employers who hire illegals.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

More than ninety percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed believe illegal immigration is a problem. Seventy percent rank it as a "very serious" or "serious" problem.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Eighty-six percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed say illegal immigration should have a "very high" or "high" priority for Congress and the Bush administration.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants if they only need to prove that they have been living in the U.S. for at least three years.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by seventy-eight percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Seventy-one percent support major penalties for employers who hire illegals.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Seventy-six percent of Americans polled are concerned that American workers can't afford to work for the same low wages as illegal aliens.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Sixty-three percent of Americans polled are concerned about illegal aliens taking away jobs from American workers.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Seventy-four percent of Americans polled favor providing major penalties for employers convicted of hiring illegal aliens and strongly enforcing it.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Eighty percent on Arizona voters favor penalizing businesses that hire illegal aliens.
KAET-TV and Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication poll, January 19-22, 2006

Support Tougher Enforcement

72 percent of all New York State residents say that entering the United States without valid immigration documents should be made a criminal offense.
2006 Empire State Poll; July 2006

Seventy-eight percent of Americans favor putting more Border Patrol and federal law enforcement agents on the U.S. border with Mexico.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Fifty-six percent of Americans favor sending National Guard troops to the U.S. border with Mexico.
Opinion Research Corporation/Lou Dobbs poll, June 8-11, 2006

Seventy-nine percent of registered voters "favor" increasing the number of federal agents patrolling the border to stop illegal immigration.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006

Sixty-three percent of registered voters "favor" using thousands of National Guard troops temporarily to help border patrol agents along the Mexican border to stop illegal immigration.
FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll, May 16-18, 2006

Sixty-two percent of Americans say they would favor stationing 6,000 National Guard troops in a support capacity at the U.S.-Mexico border to try to stop illegal immigration.
CBS News Poll, May 16-17, 2006

Sixty-eight percent of Americans think stationing National Guard troops at the U.S.-Mexico border would be effective in reducing the number of illegal immigrants to the U.S.
CBS News Poll, May 16-17, 2006

Seventy-four percent of Americans support using National Guard troops to patrol the U.S. border with Mexico.
ABC News/Washington Post Poll, May 12-14, 2006

Seventy-four percent of Americans support using National Guard troops to patrol the U.S.-Mexico border.
Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 14-16, 2006

Of those Americans polled who favored the goal of halting new illegal immigration, 64 percent support tough penalties against violators such as fines and mandatory prison terms, followed by deportation.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Of those Americans polled who favored reducing to near zero the number of resident illegal aliens, 72 percent of that group also support tough penalties against violators such as fines and mandatory prison terms, followed by deportation.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Sixty-one percent of Americans support making illegal immigration a crime, and fifty-two percent support making it a crime to knowingly assist an illegal alien.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Sixty percent of Americans believe not allowing illegal aliens to use American schools and hospitals would be effective at reducing illegal immigration: thirty percent call this very effective and 30 percent say it is somewhat effective.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

The vast majority of Americans also see value in beefing up the number of border control officers: thirty-seven percent call this very effective and forty-four percent say it is somewhat effective.
The Gallup Poll, April 7-9, 2006

Sixty-six percent of black California voters favor building a wall along major sections of the border between the U.S. and Mexico to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Sixty-four percent of California voters oppose allowing illegal aliens to obtain a driver's license in California.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Fifty-seven percent of Americans polled favor deporting as many illegals as possible.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Fifty-five percent of Americans polled favor using the U.S. military to stop entry at the borders.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Eighty percent of Americans polled favor increasing the number of border patrol agents.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for FOX News, April 4-5, 2006

Americans would limit illegals' access to government services, such as driver’s licenses (sixty-nine percent not allow), health care/food stamps (seventy-five percent not allow), and attending public schools (fifty-one percent not allow).
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Sixty-two percent favor taking whatever steps are necessary at the borders, including the use of the military, to cut the flow of illegals into this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Fifty-six percent favor building a security fence along the U.S.-Mexican border.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, March 29-30, 2006

Seventy-one percent of Americans polled say they are more likely to vote for a Congressional Candidate who favors tighter controls on illegal immigration.
NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll, March 10-13, 2006

Seventy-one percent of Americans polled say they are concerned that illegal aliens increase the amount of crime.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Seventy percent of Americans polled are concerned that illegal aliens increase the likelihood of terrorism in the United States.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Seventy-four percent of Americans polled say the U.S. isn't doing enough along its borders to keep illegal aliens from crossing into this country.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Oppose Rewards for
Illegal Migration

Fifty-three percent of Americans polled support legislation to deny automatic U.S. citizenship to children born here to parents who are illegal aliens.
Roper ASW Poll conducted for Negative Population Growth (NPG), April 14-16, 2006

Sixty-two percent of California voters oppose driver's licenses for illegal aliens.
Field Poll, February 12-26 2006

Seventy-two percent of American voters are opposed to allowing illegal immigrants to get drivers' licenses, with immigrant voter families opposed sixty-six percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006

Eighty-four percent of American voters are in favor of requiring proof of legal residency in order to obtain government benefits, with immigrant voter families in support eighty percent.
Quinnipiac University National Poll, February 21-28, 2006

Eighty-three percent of Americans polled are concerned that it costs taxpayers too much money to provide illegal aliens with services such as health care and education.
Time Magazine/SRBI Survey, January 24-26, 2006

Hispanics on Immigration

Forty-six percent of Mexicans (approximately 46 million people) would immigrate to the United States and more than 20% of them would enter illegally if given the chance. Specifically:

65% of U.S.-born Latinos say Immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Twenty-eight percent of U.S.-born Latinos say immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Eighty-nine percent of foreign-born Latinos say immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Five percent of foreign-born Latinos say immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Eighty percent of all Latinos say immigrants strengthen the U.S.
Fourteen percent of all Latinos say Immigrants are a burden on the U.S.
Sixty percent of U.S.-born Latinos approve restricting driver's licenses to U.S. citizens or legal immigrants.
Twenty-nine percent of foreign-born Latinos approve restricting driver's licenses to U.S. citizens or legal immigrants.
Forty-five percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 7 times minimum wage.
Forty-five percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 3-7 times minimum wage.
Forty-seven percent of Latinos residing in Mexico say they would move to the U.S. increase their family income by 0-3 times minimum wage.
Pew Hispanic Center poll, August 2005
Black Americans on Immigration

Sixty-six percent of black California voters favor building a wall along major sections of the border between the U.S. and Mexico to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Fifty-nine percent of black California voters favor imposing stiff penalties on employers and individuals who hire illegal aliens.
The Field Poll, April 3-10, 2006

Union Members on Immigration

Former Calif. Governor Gray Davis' granting of drivers licenses to illegal aliens was cited as a key reason why 31 percent of Democrats in unions were likely to vote to recall him.
Los Angeles Times Poll, September 2003

Business Owners on Immigration

More than ninety percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed believe illegal immigration is a problem. Seventy percent rank it as a "very serious" or "serious" problem.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Eighty-six percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed say illegal immigration should have a "very high" or "high" priority for Congress and the Bush administration.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Sixty-three percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants if they only need to prove that they have been living in the U.S. for at least three years.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Increasing penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens was supported by seventy-eight percent of NFIB small-business owners surveyed.
National Federation of Independent Business Research Foundation Member Survey on Immigration, April 4, 2006

Moderates and Independents on Immigration

President Bush's job approval rating has dropped by 10 percentile from 60 to 50 percent. His approval rating matches the lowest of his entire presidency, and his disapproval rating is now at the highest ever at 45 percent. One of the three main reasons for the decline in the President's popularity is his wildly unpopular amnesty/guest worker proposal. Most of the President's huge decline in popularity has been among Independents.
CBS New Poll, January 2004

Women on Immigration

Over half (fifty-six percent) of women think legal immigration should be reduced. Only 10 percent of women think legal immigration should be increased.
CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001

A majority of women (eighty-four percent) think the United States has made it too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.
CBS News/New York Times poll, September and December 2001

Opinion Elites vs. Public

Fifty-four percent of those polled disapprove of President Bush's handling of immigration issues -- his lowest rating on any issue other than the budget deficit.
CNN/Gallup/USA Today poll, January 2005


44 posted on 07/13/2006 7:29:32 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot
I should also mention that the House is absolutely kicking the WH and Senate arses on this issue. Some goodies have been found in the Senate Bill, but many more are yet to be revealed. Not to worry though because the House Leadership has planned more illegal immigration hearings after the 3 they held were so successful. Popcorn time when they start back! :>)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
45 posted on 07/13/2006 7:32:47 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot
I don't need to run for office. We have the House that exemplifies my feelings concerning illegal immigration.
46 posted on 07/13/2006 7:38:04 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: dirtboy
I just don't get your reply to my comment. What do you mean by "your side"? I'm vehemently opposed to shamnesty as I believe you to be.

I reiterate.....Rove was ostensibly addressing a La Raza audience but he was actually lobbing trite warning phrases to anti-immigrationists as well as anti-illegal immigrationists (as you correctly added to my thought).

My main point was that Rove is a combination stalking horse, red herring and lightning rod for his boss's policies and not the 100% powerful "l'eminence grise" people think he is. I believe the President originated his own personal shamnesty policy and Rove has, does and will go along with it.

Yet Rove is the center of attention with many folks on this thread. Evidence that the "lightning rod" political ploy utilized to deflect criticism from presidents continues to be effective.

Leni

47 posted on 07/13/2006 7:41:47 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("We will fight them on the beaches, on the streets, in the radical mosques.....hasta la vista, baby")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: conservativecorner
RE; That long list of poll data...

You don't expect me to read that do you?

I am not one to be dazzled with Bullsh*t. ;^)

48 posted on 07/13/2006 7:47:45 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: spintreebob
By every definition I have used since kindergarten EVERYONE in the Americas is American.

Interesting. So by 'American' you mean anyone living in either North or South America? Typically, when people in the U.S. say "American" they are refering to U.S. citizens. Are you a U.S. citizen? (Just curious as to where you got this very un-American way of defining 'American. LOL)

49 posted on 07/13/2006 8:04:14 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: DCPatriot

I don't care if ya read it or not. You made a statement that I clearly blew out of the water with dozens and dozens of polls. Your mind is made up, and I'm not trying to change it. I'm merely questioning your statements based on facts and not your conjecture.


50 posted on 07/13/2006 8:09:40 AM PDT by conservativecorner
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-59 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson