Posted on 07/17/2006 11:21:30 AM PDT by kronos77
This time the Jewish movement which is represented at its best by Israpundit simply cannot sit silent. This is what it has done during the sustained campaign of lies conducted by the US State Department, the US Presidency under Clinton and later Bush, the direct and illegal intervention of US Ambassadors to Yugoslavia, all of the states of the EU, and finally the UN and NATO (which is really nothing more than the armed wing of all of the above mentioned)
During the late 80s and 90s the US State Department, along with the dirty tricks departments of especially Britain, France and Germany linked up with Croatian Nazis, and with Albanian and Bosnian Islamofascists, to ensure the breakup of a sovereign state, Yugoslavia.
In order to effect this the World Media, especially the “liberal” Media in Britain of the BBC, the Guardian, the Independent, and ITN created lie after lie in order to frame the Serbs and to create the Big Lie that the Serbs were the new Nazis. Anybody familiar with the gutter press in Britain during all this time will understand that this is not an over-statement
It is a very serious matter that the leadership of the Jewish movement decided to sit on the sidelines and not interest itself in this scandal.
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But in the case of the destruction of Yugoslavia the silence of Jewish movements has been totally self-defeating of its own national struggle. Apart from the obvious questions of principle involved, exactly the very same force which organised the destruction of Yugoslavia and the demonisation of a whole people, the Serbs, have been gathering and ARE gathering to do the exact same thing to Israel. And I could add that they are using, almost to a t, the exact same techniques of lying propaganda.
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
Essential peace for understanding whole MSM lies about Christian Serbs. A Must read for evry sound and freedom loving person!
Second part of article:
http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=1759
Maybe there's hope....
Bush is conspiring with the EU and the liberal media to destroy Israel? Who knew?!
Bump
One would have hoped this KKKlintonista/NWO policy would have been reversed by now...
Someone ought to tell this clown that the "frothing-at-the-mouth-overstatement" is the surefire clue that he is peddling half-truths or outright bullsh*t.
A few corrections:
1. The State Dep't is the LAST agency of the US Gov't to want the breakup of ANY long-existing state. As far as who broke-up Yugoslavia, I will quote a private 1991 comment by former Croatian President Tudjman, who was in the position to know:
"Milosevic is the only man who can break-up Yugoslavia!" Yes, Tudjman wanted YU broken up too. But he knew that only Slobo could do it. And Slobo did.
2. The Croatians of the 1990s were NOT 'Nazis'. Yes, the extreme elements in the government, who briefly held sway due to the rebellion of the Serbs in the border regions, and the invasion of those regions in 1991 by the YU Army under Slobo's direction, can certainly be held to have been sympathetic to that type of ideology. But that was a minority, and by the end of the 1990s they had been marginalized as a political force. In any event I can't recall the real Nazis tolerating massive protests and opposition parties - all of which were active in the Croatia of the 1990s.
2. The vast (98%) majority of Bosnian Muslims can hardly be called 'Islamofascists'. They are generally non-observant, drink smoke and make merry. Yes there were indeed al Q. mercenaries in Bosnia in the 1990s, some of whom got citizenship and are still around. But again, this is a small minority that has been completely marginalized. You want to know who caused the radicalization of the Bosnian Muslims? Yes, Alija was one, but the main guy was - Slobo, once again.
4. On Kosovo the author is closest to the truth. But the Kosovo terrorists were (and are) more organized criminal elements than an al Q. branch. Again, Slobo's heavy-handed tactics helped to radicalize the province even more than it had been. Slobo could have worked out a deal partitioning Kosovo in the 1990s and preserving most of the Serbian cultural heritage there within Serbia. As one of the main Serbian literary nationalists advocated at the time. It don;t take a brain surgeon to figure out that if you use an ironfist policy on a province where 90% of the population hates you, you won't like the final result.
People like this author ought to get a life and stop smoking Balkan nationalist 'crack'. It leads to BAD consequences. Just ask Slobo.
I'm Jewish, and I heard family members say back then that the label the MSM projected on the Serbs was wrong, or at least substantially exaggerated. But we really didn't do anything about it, or bring it up with anyone. History has shown us what a mistake that was.
All good points. But, did the MSM project a false label on the Serbs and exaggerate Serbian atrocities? I think, to some point, they did.
Milosevic may have caused, or aggravated, or both, a lot of the problems in the country. But the media treatment of the conflict, from what I recall, was not exactly fair.
And how exactly did he do it? By signing the Dayton Agreement? Or by making his famous 1989 speech in Kosovo? A few quotes:
"[...]
Serbia has never had only Serbs living in it. Today, more than in the past, members of other peoples and nationalities also live in it. This is not a disadvantage for Serbia. I am truly convinced that it is its advantage. National composition of almost all countries in the world today, particularly developed ones, has also been changing in this direction. Citizens of different nationalities, religions, and races have been living together more and more frequently and more and more successfully.
[...]
Equal and harmonious relations among Yugoslav peoples are a necessary condition for the existence of Yugoslavia and for it to find its way out of the crisis and, in particular, they are a necessary condition for its economic and social prosperity. In this respect Yugoslavia does not stand out from the social milieu of the contemporary, particularly the developed, world. This world is more and more marked by national tolerance, national cooperation, and even national equality. The modern economic and technological, as well as political and cultural development, has guided various peoples toward each other, has made them interdependent and increasingly has made them equal as well [medjusobno ravnopravni]. Equal and united people can above all become a part of the civilization toward which mankind is moving. If we cannot be at the head of the column leading to such a civilization, there is certainly no need for us to be at is tail.
[...]
Six centuries ago, Serbia heroically defended itself in the field of Kosovo, but it also defended Europe. Serbia was at that time the bastion that defended the European culture, religion, and European society in general. Therefore today it appears not only unjust but even unhistorical and completely absurd to talk about Serbia's belonging to Europe. Serbia has been a part of Europe incessantly, now just as much as it was in the past, of course, in its own way, but in a way that in the historical sense never deprived it of dignity. In this spirit we now endeavor to build a society, rich and democratic, and thus to contribute to the prosperity of this beautiful country, this unjustly suffering country, but also to contribute to the efforts of all the progressive people of our age that they make for a better and happier world.
Let the memory of Kosovo heroism live forever!
Long live Serbia!"
Long live Yugoslavia!
Long live peace and brotherhood among peoples!"
Perpaps they should drink your absinthe instead and enjoy the blurred vision.
Let's go back to your comments:
>>>>1. The State Dep't is the LAST agency of the US Gov't to want the breakup of ANY long-existing state. As far as who broke-up Yugoslavia, I will quote a private 1991 comment by former Croatian President Tudjman, who was in the position to know:"Milosevic is the only man who can break-up Yugoslavia!" Yes, Tudjman wanted YU broken up too. But he knew that only Slobo could do it. And Slobo did. >>>>>>>
The reality is that all former republics of Yugoslavia were given note to get out of Federation by the end of 1991 or any ecconomic aid to them will be stopped. It was the matchstick that lighted a Balkan tinder box. Everything else is a window dressing.
>>>>>>>>2. The Croatians of the 1990s were NOT 'Nazis'. Yes, the extreme elements in the government, who briefly held sway due to the rebellion of the Serbs in the border regions, and the invasion of those regions in 1991 by the YU Army under Slobo's direction, can certainly be held to have been sympathetic to that type of ideology. But that was a minority, and by the end of the 1990s they had been marginalized as a political force. In any event I can't recall the real Nazis tolerating massive protests and opposition parties - all of which were active in the Croatia of the 1990s.<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Yes, Croatians of 199s were not Nazis, yet Nazi salute was in use in Croatian army and home guard, , WWII Nazi monetary unit kuna was reestablished, WWII Nazi coat of arms and "U" sign (comparrable to SS runes) was in use. The volunteers from abraad (Germany, France, UK) wore Nazi insignia and used Nazi salute. The last time flag with Hakenkreutz was used in combat was not in Berlin 1945, but in Croatia 1991. (Used by European mercenaries but tolerated by the Croatian authorities)
Nazis who fled after WWII, came freeely to Croatia and took prominent positions. Ivo Rojnica, WWII Nazi Commandant of Dubrovnik was hailed as a hero. Streets, squares, schools were renamed to commemorate Croatian WWII Nazi war criminals. And so on.
You are right, Croatia of the 1990's was not a Nazi state. It only used Nazi props to please the local public fond of Nazis and Nazism.
If Germany after unification did the same, my guess is that it would be nuked.
>>>>>>>>>2. The vast (98%) majority of Bosnian Muslims can hardly be called 'Islamofascists'. They are generally non-observant, drink smoke and make merry. Yes there were indeed al Q. mercenaries in Bosnia in the 1990s, some of whom got citizenship and are still around. But again, this is a small minority that has been completely marginalized. You want to know who caused the radicalization of the Bosnian Muslims? Yes, Alija was one, but the main guy was - Slobo, once again.<<<<<<<<<<<
Only 35% Germans were active Nazis bent on new religion. The rest were non-observant, drink smoke and make merry. Hitler wrote Mein kampf and Germnans followed him. Izetbegovic wrote Islamic Declaration and Muslims followed him. In this book, Izetbegovic claimed that secular Western and Islamic society can not coexist. For that reason, before the civil war erupted, he chose war. When war started Izetbegovic claimed that he will sacrifice peace for independent iIslamic Bosnia but will not sacrifice independent Islamic Bosnia for peace.
Today, Bosnia is partially islamic and partially independent. Over 102,000 Muslims, Croats and Serbs paid the Izetbegovic madness with their own lives. And scumbag died of old age.
>>>>>>>>>>4. On Kosovo the author is closest to the truth. But the Kosovo terrorists were (and are) more organized criminal elements than an al Q. branch. Again, Slobo's heavy-handed tactics helped to radicalize the province even more than it had been. Slobo could have worked out a deal partitioning Kosovo in the 1990s and preserving most of the Serbian cultural heritage there within Serbia. As one of the main Serbian literary nationalists advocated at the time. It don;t take a brain surgeon to figure out that if you use an ironfist policy on a province where 90% of the population hates you, you won't like the final result.<<<<<
Here, you are closest to the truth. American businessman Milan Panic who has done a stint as a Serbia PM before the war errupted offered Albanians all kind of concessions short of independence. They flatly refused.
Some people, many people did do something. Israelis did help with Intel and otherwise. Conservative Jewish Americans did speak up as much as they could.
On other side, many JINOs profited handsomely spreading rabid lies about the Serbs as a people. You could not open tv without seeing a liberal American Jew spitting lies and venom against the Serbs as a people.
B'nai brith and other Jewish American political umbrella orghanizations were the outlets for the most rabid propaganda in suport of Islamofascists.
In State Department, careers were being made on hatred of Serbs. Fuelled with Saudi money.
One of the most despicable creatures who used Goebbels-styled lies to denigrate Serbs as a people was alleged Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel. He insulted the memory of 6 millions of dead with his lies.
I have said many times on this forum, show me a Jewish American who denigrated Serbs as a people and I will show you a Jew who works against Israel. This shameful list is very lenghty.
Their handiwork was used to set up a precendent against Israel. Even worse, their handiwork is the most important body of work of The Holocaust revisionism so far, because it became part of accademic curicula. That is what this article is all about.
Kid who wrote this blog article perhaps does not have perfect command of all the pertinent facts but has clear overall picture and the heart on the right side.
(Islamic Declaration, page 22)
Here's an interview with Chedomir Prelinchevich, Chief Archivist of Kosovo and leader of the Jewish Community in Pristina, Kosovo in 1999.
http://emperor.vwh.net/interviews/ceda.htm Jared Israel runs this website.
Julia Gorin, who also writes for Jewish World Review, has long seen thru the media lies re the Serbs and one of her many articles on the subject is here: http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17357
Julia, along with Freeper Tom Gambill, are also advisors to "The American Council on Kosovo" here: http://www.savekosovo.org
and Julia just published my letter to her re Israel and the Serbs, here: http://www.republicanriot.com
Here is my post from yesterday re Israel: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666925/posts
Jim Jatras will be on the Don Kroah Show on Monday evening, 17 July at 6:00 p.m. EST (3PM PST)
Jim is an attorney at the Venable law firm in Washington, DC. For many years Jim was a policy analyst for the Republican Leadership in the US Senate, and before that served as a diplomat with the State Department.
On Monday, he will be on the Don Kroah Show to talk about Kosovo. It seems that a lot of people here may have forgotten about Kosovo but that doesn't mean the problem has gone away. In fact, it's getting a lot worse. As Jim will tell us, Kosovo's Orthodox Christian Serbian community -- of which Jim is the authorized representative -- is facing extinction at the hands of a violent jihad movement if Kosovo is detached from Serbia and made an independent country
You can listen to the program electronically by going to: http://www.wava.com/common/listen.shtml .You can listen locally by going to 780AM or 105.1FM The website is: http://www.wava.com/don/don.shtml
This crime as well as the one committed in 1995 on Serbian Krajina fulfills the legal definition of genocide.
"acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group"
These are the two main crimes of the last years in the territory of former Yugoslavia. Both were done with the help of NATO.
I was just listening thw show. Great piece of jurnalism!
Very simple and tue, Bokababe THANK YOU!
Where do you get the kool-aid that you drink?
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