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Posted on 07/19/2006 11:05:24 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
The trouble with ignorant bigots such as yourself is that the you'll never be able to see beyond your own little noses. The Vatican single-handedly brought down the Soviet Empire, without ever firing a shot. And please don't try to sell me that shiite that Reagan "outspent" the USSR into destruction.
BTW, in my quest to help educate another ignorant bigot, here is a quiz:
Which world leader has recently condemned the teachings of the koran and said their adherents were "stuck"; and which world leader believe that islam is "one of the world's great religions", and "a religion of peace"?
Answer:
Father Fesio, close friend and student of Pope Benedict XVI, recently attended a meeting with the Pope regarding Islam, he told Hugh Hewitt on radio that the Pope believes that "Islam and democracy are not compatable" because of the inflexibility of the koran. He said the Pope stated that the koran "must be radically reinterpreted" --- "before islam becomes compatable with the modern world". -
Father Fesio: "Yeah, (the Pope related) that Christianity can engage modernity just like it did...the Jews did Egypt, or Christians did to Greece, because we can take what’s good there, and we can elevate it through the revelation of Christ in the Bible. But Islam is stuck. It’s stuck with a text that cannot be adapted...". - - - -
as reported on January 6, 2006
: "Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate." (Bush, September 10, 2002).
"I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements." (Bush, Rose Garden, June 24, '02).
"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements." (Bush, Nov. 19, 2001).
I have all 3 or your "reactions" also. When/if it does happen I think there will be a moment of silence when the terrorists say to themselves, "Oh Sh**". But you are probably right about #2, they won't get blamed for it in the end.
They need to stop doing this sh!t.
If a butterfly in Brazil burps the wrong way, they will riot, burn things, declare Jidah for the ten millionth time, and say it was a US-Israel "conspiracy."
As a good FR buddy puts it: allahu fubar!
Ignorant bigot? I made a simple tongue in cheek comment and I get slandered by you? Quite Christian.
You are talking to a 31 year cradle catholic who became disillusioned with people such as yourself within the catholic church.
I never said that the pope did not take a stand on muslims. I will not deny, however, that I had issues with his condemnation of Israel last week.
"For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer."
ROM 13: 4
Would you like to discuss something? The apocryphal books of the bible? The Council of Trent? Limbo?
I would more than happy to have some sort of an intellectual dialogue with you, but I will not participate in disrespectful name calling.
For the honor of your church, I would suggest that you study the Lord's word more than your pope's. Because if you truly knew Him, you would understand just how poor your post has made yourself and the catholic faith look.
Bomb Mecca.
The MSM: crAP, Al-Reuters, etc. don't bother to report it. It doesn't fit their agenda.
Interesting what you can learn from a mispelling.
Did I say that he didn't? My issue is with his condemnation of Israel's response.
See post 28.
At their meeting in St. Petersburg, Russia, the G8 leaders had approved a statement calling for an immediate ceasefire. The G8 statement urged Israel to act with restraint, but suggested that the primary blame for the latest violence should fall upon Hezbollah terrorists.
“These extremist elements and those that support them cannot be allowed to plunge the Middle East into chaos and provoke a wider conflict," the G8 leaders agreed. "The extremists must immediately halt their attacks.”
I sincerely hope that you can see the enormous difference it approac to Israel (should act with restraint) and Hezbollah (mus immediately halt).
I would further add that when we (USA) go to war, we go out of our way to "act with restraint" ... deliberatly avoiding unnecessary civilian damage.
You apparently didn't know ...
That's OK. Ignorance is curable. finding sources other than crAP, Al-Reuters, the Washington Compost, the New York Slimes, and their fellow travellers on the boob-tube would be a good start.
Wow. O. K. One more time. First, the pope did not ask Israel to act with restraint last week. He condemned their actions. I had a problem with this for the reasons explained in post 28. Second, an immediate cease fire does not benefit Israel in any way. I disagree with the G8 statement here, in turn causing me to once again disagree with the pope. Third, Israel has gone out of their way to show restraint. When was the last time terrorists dropped flyers telling civilians to stay away from government buildings that will be targetted. Oh that's right, that is what Israel did. How many of Israel's government offices are located in schools, hospitals, or residential neighborhoods? Oh that's right, none. The pope is (and if you agree with him you are as well) off base here.
You are absolutely right, ignorance is curable.
Read here...
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060716/3/2n7xz.html
2) I favour the intersts of the United States, and of the Christian communities in other countries. What's 'good for Israel' isn't necessarily good for the United States, or for the world's Christians, although their interests and ours often run parallel.
3) If the Israelis (or us, for that matter) are already 'acting with restraint', then the Vatican statements are simply reminders to follow SOP. I seem to recall an Israeli military official being quoted last week to the effect that he wanted to "set Lebannon back 20 years". I remember what Lebannon was like in the early 1980s. Anybody who wants to return to that is an idiot, and deserves to be condemned.
4) What part of "These extremist elements and those that support them cannot be allowed to plunge the Middle East into chaos and provoke a wider conflict," do you not understand?
Get a news source, not a propaganda network.
That is what is so discouraging and disgusting about the dhimmi attitude of the Vatican. After all the temples (Hindu and Jewish) and churches which have been destroyed throughout history by the mohammedans, it is a certainty that St Peters is gone.
Folks should STOP BEING DHIMMIS.
O. K. I don't know what else to tell you. Is this not a quote from the article?
"Pope Benedict on Sunday condemned "terrorist" acts and reprisals in Lebanon and Israel, saying the violence was unjustifiable."
As quick as you are to call others ignorant, I am going to assume that you understand that when he speaks of the reprisals, he is speaking of the actions of Israel, correct?
If you favor Christian interests then you sure as anything better favor the interests of God's chosen people.
I understand quite well the meaning of extremist elements. And that is well and good. But that does not change the quote from above.
You're condescending attitude is typical catholic arrogance.
I will once again refer you back yo my post 28.
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