Posted on 07/20/2006 1:27:37 PM PDT by r-q-tek86
In 1940 Adolph Hitler was determined to conquer all of Europe. Despite isolationist sentiment, President Roosevelt planned for US entry into the European conflict. His courage in the face of popular opposition ultimately allowed for the Allied victory.
Anybody else watch?
Liberals have a convenient memory.
You know, like following the Ten Commandments, e.g. Thou Shalt Not Lie.
Judging from what I heard last night, I would say he is right. I cannot imagine what it would be like to have this president and this media in the late 30's early 40's.
It's just frustrating to see these people fawning over FDR for doing those things.
In retrospect, it's too bad we didn't let him.
Pat's mad that his guy lost.
"We're a Christian nation. It is imperative that our leaders lie to us when they see fit so that we can maintain our Christian way of life."
"You know, like following the Ten Commandments, e.g. Thou Shalt Not Lie."
The Ten Commandments does not say anything about not lying.
Depending on the version, it says "Thou shall not bear false witness" or "Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor"
So are you saying that if a reporter had ask FDR in May 1944 when we were going to invade France, FDR would have had to say "June 5th" to be a Good Christian and not break the Ten Commandments?
Thats what you get for watching the Discovery-New York Times Channel. I almost barfed at the hour long special calling LBJ courageous, when I think he did things that were politically expedient on civil rights.
Everything FDR did was justified to liberals because they see WW2 as a holy mission to save their promised land, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics from the evil right-wing conservatve racist white Germans.
Oh, but Adolf Hitler DID conquer all of Europe.
It just did not happen in his lifetime.
But his legacy lives on. A form of National Socialism is part of the legal structure of every country on the European continent, and even affects several other countries with roots in Europe.
The Jews were largely driven out of Europe in most of the countries where once they made up a large minority.
The Christian religion has effectively been largely stamped out all across Europe, which was one of the objectives of National Socialism.
Even the Soviet Union finally collapsed, some forty-six years after Stalingrad.
World War Two was finally over.
I taped the Reagan one and will watch it tonight. I didn't watch the LBJ one.
You're right, I shouldn't watch the Discovery/Slimes channel... but the show was interesting and informative. I like to think of myself as knowing quite a bit about WWII... I just never really studies the two years that led up to US involvement.
I don't know that I have problems with most of what FDR did in preparation for WWII (I do have big problems with almost everything else about him). I was just struck by the similarities of that time and the present.
We had war DECLARED ON US in 1941... what was FDR 'gonna do... say NO?! He knew we were going to eventually get involved... but so did most with half a brain. We were ill-prepared to fight either the Japanese or the Germans when war was declared... and we payed dearly for it... IN BLOOD.
I cannot stand the common history told about FDR. I refer everyone to read the "Roosevelt Myth", written by a liberal muckraker from the 1920's who was blackballed by FDR for his criticism. Pretty much everything you've read about FDR is either a half-truth or outright lie. I could go on and on, but believe me, his actions during WWII were hardly courageous. The man did more to ruin this country and the world than any other figure in American history.
I think LBJ might give FDR a run for his money for that title. And he did it in one-fourth the time.
LBJ is definitely high on my list, but when you consider both domestic (Social Security, borrow budgeting, etc.) and foreign (selling out Eastern Europe to Stalin when it was still savable) factors, FDR takes the cake, IMO.
My Father, always a strong Republican, never spoke much about FDR but I'm sure he didn't like him much. Can only remember Dad speaking of him on one occasion.
Dad said "that he was out plowing a field when a neighbor came by and told him that FDR had been elected President for the third time and that the horse he was plowing with just laid down and died".
Now Dad wasn't prone to telling untruths and he wasn't smiling when he told me the story, so I strongly suspect it was true.
You guys catch this?
No. I'm saying he would have to lie in order to preserve our right to live in a culture that was generally free of lying.
Of course for our sakes governments, large corporations, the media, and major public institutions such as hospitals, universities and churches need to lie to us on a regular basis in order to protect us from the truth. For our part as good citizens we need to be as truthful as possible so that we can be correctly categorized and dealt with.
I am glad to see that both American parties, Democrat and Republican, are largely in favor of this view and act accordingly.
No, sorry.
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