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The Tragedy of the Religious Left: Worshipping the Goddess of Tolerance
Breakpoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 7/18/2006 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 07/21/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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To: msnimje
It can not be argued by anyone that the party that supports abortion has a religious foundation.

Yes, but you have to argue (as Ann Coulter does) that liberalism itself is a religion. Abortion is one of its holiest sacraments.

41 posted on 07/21/2006 10:09:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Liberals have made "tolerance" a buzz word to attack conservatives. It seems to be working, even in this forum.

No, that's crap. It's not that the libs have advanced a bad idea called "tolerance" and made conservatives buy into it, it's that liberals have taken their bad ideas and slapped the name for a good idea (tolerance) on them.

To be quite frank, your posts in theis thread are awfully crotchety. Chill out.

42 posted on 07/21/2006 10:12:29 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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43 posted on 07/21/2006 10:15:16 AM PDT by Gritty (The 'moral superiority' of our elites smugly masks their own massive moral paralysis - Diana West)
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To: ArGee
By that definition it means "emotional."

I agree. Far too many Americans only practice spirituality on an emotional level, and it is, as you said, what makes them feel good.

44 posted on 07/21/2006 10:15:18 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: Gritty

Nice graphic.


45 posted on 07/21/2006 10:16:53 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: nina0113
You're not real big on the whole conversion, atonement, redemption thing, are you?

Skylab is an admitted atheist. IOW, he/she is just here to get some jabs in at Christians.

46 posted on 07/21/2006 10:22:48 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"The liberals aren't even a part of the Church."

When I used the phrase "The liberal Christian Church is today's Laodecia" I was referring to the liberal Christian Church; not liberals in general. There are liberal Christians and Conservative Christians. I was referring to the former group.

As Revelations 2 states they are neither hot nor cold but lukewarm. They profess Christianity but do not consider the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God. That to me is lukewarm.

47 posted on 07/21/2006 10:24:23 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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To: mollynme; Skylab; nina0113
Skylab is an admitted atheist. IOW, he/she is just here to get some jabs in at Christians.

Even a fool who believes there is no God should be smart enough to see that a criminal can reform, and that three decades of public service outweighs a few years of skullduggery.

48 posted on 07/21/2006 10:27:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: bcsco

"not liberals in general"

Yeah, I know. I was refering to liberal "Christians" also. I would not consider them to be part of the Church because most of them don't even believe the basic facts of Christianity - including "christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures..."


49 posted on 07/21/2006 10:35:32 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Skylab
"Chuck Colson, the man who ordered the Watergate break-in and destroyed a President."

True. But he was tried, convicted, imprisoned, saw the error of his ways, confessed, repented, and embarked on a new life, now living no longer for himself, but for the Lord.

I admire Colson --- very much --- as I admire anyone who has cast his sins down and trampled them underfoot. I hope we would all have the grace to do the same.

50 posted on 07/21/2006 10:41:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Pray (pray!) -- Oh yes we pray (pray!) --- we've got to pray just to make it today. --- MC Hammer)
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To: mollynme
Skylab is an admitted atheist. IOW, he/she is just here to get some jabs in at Christians.

Aha.

51 posted on 07/21/2006 10:42:36 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: rightinthemiddle

As Doug Giles wrote, one can be a Liberal but not a Christian. One could be a Christian but never a Liberal. So true.


52 posted on 07/21/2006 11:11:02 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: mollynme
Skylab is an admitted atheist. IOW, he/she is just here to get some jabs in at Christians.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

53 posted on 07/21/2006 11:34:53 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: All
"Of course liberalism is a religion. It has its own cosmology, its own miracles, its own beliefs in the supernatural, its own churches, its own high priests, its own saints, its own total worldview, and its own explanation of the existence of the universe. In other words, liberalism contains all the attributes of what is generally known as 'religion.'" Ann Coulter, in Godless.
54 posted on 07/21/2006 11:47:29 AM PDT by gentlestrength
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To: ArGee

I don't know what the word "spiritual" means to them.

But I can tell you what it's come to mean to me. Someone under the influence of Spirits other than the Almighty. that's what.


55 posted on 07/21/2006 12:01:46 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: ArGee

I think their motto is, "We can tolerate anything but intolerance"


56 posted on 07/21/2006 12:07:08 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: ArGee

You are correct, it does mean emotional, but in a 'love, peace, and pass that grass' kind of way.


57 posted on 07/21/2006 12:08:34 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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Campolo was one of the few that were claiming to be the spiritual counselors to Clinton after BC's getting caught sexually.

If you don't preach sin, right and wrong, preach until the heart is filled with fear and terror, it won't see it's need. THEN you offer the Savior. Clinton never repented, IMHO, partially because people like Campolo were his counselors.

58 posted on 07/21/2006 12:11:40 PM PDT by gentlestrength
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To: Skylab
"We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

I don't know who you were quoting, but that sentence makes no sense.

It might be correctly rendered, "We all disbelieve in most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

Is that what you are trying to say?

Shalom.

59 posted on 07/21/2006 12:17:17 PM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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To: bcsco
When I used the phrase "The liberal Christian Church is today's Laodecia" I was referring to the liberal Christian Church; not liberals in general. There are liberal Christians and Conservative Christians. I was referring to the former group

The problem with your idea is that many of these "liberal Christians" do not even acknowledge the divinity of Christ (and many or most do not acknowledge that Jesus is the only way to salvation, directly contradicting many verses of scripture) and are therefore, by most definitions, not Christian at all. The Laodecians believed in the Christ for their salvation, which is more than most "liberal Christians" (i.e., non-Christian liberals who go to church for reasons usually involving family tradition or societal pressure).
60 posted on 07/21/2006 12:25:09 PM PDT by newguy357
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