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'Gay panic' defense tactic under scrutiny at conference (Intentional gender misrepresentation)
The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, July 19, 2006 | Wyatt Buchanan

Posted on 07/21/2006 10:49:04 AM PDT by Stoat

A gay Atlanta man was bludgeoned to death and his confessed killer walked free after claiming he was forced into a sexual act and responded in self-defense. The killer of a Kentucky man whose body was stuffed in a suitcase and dumped into a lake also claimed he acted to thwart a sexual advance and was convicted of manslaughter instead of murder.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: gaypanic; homosexual; homosexualagenda; law; murdernotok; queerpower; rape; roughtrade; selfdefenseok; sexualassault
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To: dmz
You want to focus on the actions of the gender bender, that's fine, but don't pretend that an appropriate response is violence under those circumstances.

How about focusing on root cause instead of denying it?

41 posted on 07/21/2006 2:00:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: wideawake

L-O-L-A Lola! LOL!


42 posted on 07/21/2006 2:02:33 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: DJ MacWoW

OK. The root cause, as I see it, is going to bars / clubs / whatever and "hooking up" with total strangers.

The gender bender would have no one to trick without someone looking for sex with strangers. I think it is you denying the root cause.

But, let's face it, we won't find agreement on this topic. You have earnestly defended your point, as I have done. You think I'm wrong, and I think you're wrong.

As I tell my wife of 17 years on a regular basis, when discussing our single friends, God I'm glad I'm not in that game anymore. I certainly exercised crappy judgement on more than one occasion (lost count after using all fingers and toes), but I tried to never hold anyone but myself responsible for my actions.


43 posted on 07/21/2006 2:09:07 PM PDT by dmz
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To: All
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44 posted on 07/21/2006 2:30:06 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: dmz
The gender bender would have no one to trick without someone looking for sex with strangers.

You're kidding. It's all the strangers fault because they allow themselves to be tricked? You mean if a man dresses as a woman it's the victims fault for being tricked? LOLOL

You DO realise that the tricksters go to straight bars to pickup straights, right? And none of it's their fault?

45 posted on 07/21/2006 2:42:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Stoat

It is an old fetish among some homosexuals.

They call it seducing "rough trade". They know they risk violent reprisal for their deception, that is part of the kink.

And yes it is akin to rape in that it is not consensual.


46 posted on 07/21/2006 2:44:51 PM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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To: weegee
It is an old fetish among some homosexuals.

They call it seducing "rough trade". They know they risk violent reprisal for their deception, that is part of the kink.

WOW....I remember back in the 1980's there was a record label specializing in punk / experimental music called Rough Trade.  I just assumed that it was a reference to the type of artists they were signing having a "rough" time getting any "trade" from the dominant music culture of the time, and I didn't think anything more of it.  I had NO IDEA that all this time it was referring to something so very ugly and sinister as this.

"Duh! @ Me  :-(

And yes it is akin to rape in that it is not consensual.

Agreed...I definitely view it as a sexual assault, and it should be prosecuted as such.  It seems that normal healthy men are expected to just deal with this as part of life, because it's so very politically incorrect to suggest that a man's sexual identity has any value or relevance.

47 posted on 07/21/2006 3:02:33 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yeah, that's more accurate, good correction. :)


48 posted on 07/21/2006 8:32:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: DBeers

Very interesting discussion on the thread.


49 posted on 07/21/2006 8:49:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Stoat

It doesn't take a locksmith to tell the difference between a combination lock and a keyhole.


50 posted on 07/22/2006 8:33:51 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer; Stoat
It doesn't take a locksmith to tell the difference between a combination lock and a keyhole.

The whole point is that one has to look to see the difference.

51 posted on 07/22/2006 9:51:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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