Posted on 07/22/2006 9:38:34 PM PDT by gcruse
David W. Key, director of Baptist Studies at the Candler School of Theology at Emory, put it more starkly. “The real underlying issue is that fundamentalism in the Southern Baptist form is incompatible with higher education,’’ Professor Key said. “In fundamentalism, you have all the truths. In education, you’re searching for truths.’’
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Would Jesus even get a passing grade? "No one comes to the Father except through me" just wouldn't be considered "open-minded" enough for most college profs.
David W. Key, director of Baptist Studies at the Candler School of Theology at Emory, put it more starkly. “The real underlying issue is that fundamentalism faith in Jesus Christ in the Southern Baptist form is incompatible with higher education the liberal agenda,’’ Professor Key said. “In fundamentalism, you have all the truths love God. In education liberalism, you’re searching for truths. you hate God.’’
Professor Key mustn't be a student of logic, I suspect. If education is 'searching for truths', one might hope to assume they intend to find these truths they are searching for, right? If I search for my lost keys, I expect to find them. Don't you? If you pay to send your kids to college, you hope they find some truth, right? Don't bother sending your kids or your money to any institution Professor Key sits over. He's not intersted in finding truth, he merely wants to wander about endlessly, in a fruitless search with no expectation of ever finding anything.
Here, let's change Professor Key's statement a bit and see if it makes any sense...
Professor Key said. “In fundamentalism, you have all the car keys. In education, you’re searching for the car keys.’’
Which sounds better to you, fundamentalism or Professor Keys' "education" ?
Well the SBC did just voted in a suggestion, not sure if that is the right word, that any one who drank alcohol should not be a church leader.
Seeing as how the first recorded miricle of Jesus was to change water into wine perhaps he is on to something.
You are correct.
Whine then is different from now. The whole point, my guess, is that when you are in church leadership you need to walk the talk.
Good for them.
good riddance to liberal colleges.
That was not wine. It's what we would call grape juice.
"It's what we would call grape juice."
I read a book by a Biblical scholar that said this but he was not totally convinced. Do you have a source for this?
Then why did he go to that college? There are plenty of non-religious schools to choose from.
“You ought to have some professor on your faculty who believes Adam and Eve were the first humans, that they actually existed,’’ Dr. York said. Dr. Crouch and Georgetown’s trustees decided it was time to exercise their escape clause. The college and the convention wanted to avoid the kind of contention becoming common in neighboring states.
Dr. York seems to have wanted just one professor that was a conservative and Crouch wanted to separate at that point? I thought he was for diversity? Oh...oops...diversity means only left-wing views are permissible, and any other views which diverge are unacceptable.
I'm Baptist, and believe wine back then was indeed alcoholic not grape juice. And I don't know any Baptists who claime it was grape juice. But I have heard that it might have been a lower proof than wine is today.
Wine was one of the few safe drinks in those days. Today the emphasis is on using alcohol to lower inhibitions. It's not the same environment as back then.
As a Baptist, I don't believe drinking alcohol in moderation is wrong. But having grown up in Louisiana which has the highest per capita alcohol in the nation despite the northern half being dry when I was young, I decided I was better off without it.
here's a good link
http://www.the-churchofchrist.com/alcohol/why_did_jesus_turn_the_water_into_wine.htm
Part of being a good educator is that when you actually find truths, you pass them along to your students.
Kind of the reason why the written word was developed in the first place.
Y'know, so people don't have to re-find the truth every generation...? And perhaps so they DON'T miss it?
Well, if this is how the colleges feel, it's probably better off for the SBC if they do split. I'm not saying I agree with everything the SBC holds from a doctrinal point of view, I'm just saying they'll be way better off as a denomination.
Instead of cutting ties with the colleges, the Baptist conventions should fight to keep the colleges Baptist. One of the things the SBC was trying to accomplish in the last couple of decades was to weed out the liberalism that had crept into the schools and return them to teaching Baptist beliefs.
It sounds like some schools were set up with independent boards that the conventions can't control. No convention should allow the board to be totally independent from them.
Jesus majored in Holiness at Holy Spirit U.
Good source. Thanks a lot.
This is like the mother of a Notre Dame football player complaining about the religious aspects of the school. Specifically they are black muslim. More accurately she is her son considers himself a non denominational christian.
NOTRE DAME IS A CATHOLIC SCHOOL!
It is not Touchdown Mohammed. It is Touchdown Jesus.
Her son chose it because he feels it's the best place to pursue a possible NFL bound career. He'll be a freshman incoming this year.
This is like the mother of a Notre Dame football player complaining about the religious aspects of the school. Specifically they are black muslim. More accurately she is her son considers himself a non denominational christian.
NOTRE DAME IS A CATHOLIC SCHOOL!
It is not Touchdown Mohammed. It is Touchdown Jesus.
Her son chose it because he feels it's the best place to pursue a possible NFL bound career. He'll be a freshman incoming this year.
This is what's going on at Louisiana College. The Louisiana Baptist Convention has cracked down on some of the liberal professors and a bunch of them resigned.
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