Skip to comments.As Bush stands firm in the Middle East, he capitulates Europe
Posted on 07/26/2006 1:59:50 PM PDT by Bokababe
Writing for an outfit called FamilySecurityMatters.org last week, Weekly Standard contributor and longtime champion of Balkan Muslims Stephen Schwartz describes an overnight bus ride from Kosovo's capital Pristina to a resort town in Montenegro:
"A man behind me began speaking almost immediately and without stopping, in Albanian which I understand insistently focused on the nature of G-d (a favorite subject for Islamic fundamentalists), [and on] the nefarious influence of Sufis who thought they could reinterpret the faith, the evil intentions of Americans, Iraq, and bloodshed. I was startled because it is rare to hear Albanians, after the rescue of Kosovo, badmouth Americans G-d is one, who are these people like this American who come and try to tell us how to be Muslims? What about Iraq? Why is this American here with his friend?"
Schwartz then describes a rest stop: "I did not find out where I was until I asked a waiter in the restaurant, because none of the Albanians crowded in the back with me and my Sufi companion and the whisperer in darkness would speak civilly to me. When I asked one man, in Albanian, the name of the town, he answered in Serbian: 'ne znam,' 'I don't know.' Another said it was the Montenegrin capital, Podgorica (it wasn't). And finally a thin punk who could not have been over 20, and who, I soon realized, had been encouraging the voice behind me, said in perfect English, 'I don't understand English.' At the end of the rest period all three people filed back into the bus and avoided looking at me.
"Muhammad woke up and asked me what was going on. I told him, 'Someone back here is making Wahhabi speeches.' He grinned as if in disbelief, but said, 'I'm not surprised.........
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Damn, Julia is good!
The proper term is 'illiterate'.
LOL! Got past the editors as well.
Suddenly "Old Europe" is impotent, incontinent, and idiotic...unable to manage their own most basic affairs without some American "cowboy" holding their hands while showing them what to do.
Grow up Europe!
Europe is doomed. We might as well get used to the idea of mainland Europe as a Muslim state an prepare for it.
How did the Clinton administration come up with this wild and crazy idea of supporting the Muslim side of a Balkan Holy War? Why did it sound like a good idea at the time?
We are coming up on the 5th anniversary of 9/11. In this time I have learned much about muslims and in all honesty, not one thing has been good. The religion of peace being hijacked by fanatics was more believable 5 years ago, it doesn't fly anymore. Muslims are bound by their religion, not nationality, they live not by the rule of law but by the Koran. They have shown themselves to be sneaky and untrustworthy, they will use whatever means necessary to attain their goal. Their goal is not world peace but a total muslim world. They are only loyal to themselves.
How could you not feel horrible when the media constantly showed pictures of children and their bombed out surroundings, the stories of genocide. Hey, I bought into it, never again though.
Islam will be devastated, the moon god utterly helpless to prevent it.
Quite right. Socialism not only rots a nation's soul, but also its brain.
Have absolutely no idea, because Izetbegovic made it clear what he was -- a radical Muslim-- from the start!
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President Clinton's waging of the 1999 air war for European Muslims against Christian Serbs in Kosovo followed the similar logic of giving North Korea a free U.S. taxpayer paid nuclear reactor, exchanging rocket technology for campaign contributions from Red China, and sending in tanks to burn out Branch Davidian Christians in Waco.
Which is to say, he was waging large-scale, global war against the Judeo-Christian America of his father (whoever that was).
As far as I am concerned Europe deserves what they get for kissing up to the muslims.
And I believe that before it is over they will ger plenty. All bad.
Scroll down and see the new bin Laden mosque (flying the Saudi flag) in Kosovo!
But not at all impervious to rapid removal - so sez Mr. Tagline
| #19 - We are coming up on the 5th anniversary of 9/11. In this time I have learned much about muslims and in all honesty, not one thing has been good.
#20 - But not at all impervious to rapid removal - so sez Mr. Tagline
I agree with both of you. IMO, Islam can be viewed as a deadly pestilence, or black plague attempting to overtake and destroy our civilization. I simply can't understand the sidesteps and pussy footing of not calling like it really is. Out front, we're at war with Islam. Forget about the radical this and that BS.
Damn there are a lot wacko nut ranters suddenly popping up here. Hey Europe, get the EU to save your butts. We did it 3 times in the last 100 years and are sick of you people always come running to us to pull you out of the fire.
Sadly, it will take another 9/11 type of attack to wake America up to the real presence of the current war.
| "Damn there are a lot wacko nut ranters suddenly popping up here. Hey Europe, get the EU to save your butts. We did it 3 times in the last 100 years and are sick of you people always come running to us to pull you out of the fire."
Other then the thread's title, you obviously didn't bother to read the presented material, and are accusing some of us posting here of being wacko nuts. FYI, handing Kosovo over to Islamofacists was a Bill Clinton creation. So unless you're an Islamofacist lover yourself, or liberal apologizing troll, why does that make us wacko nuts for speaking out on this very critical issue?
I haven't read this information elsewhere. Interesting article. I too, bought into Clinton's war.
and they are proliferating at an alarming rate; especially compared to Christians.
Which is to say, he was waging large-scale, global war against the Judeo-Christian America of his father (whoever that was).
One of the main reasons for this war was to get Monica off the front pages.
| What is happening in Bosnia and Kosovo are massive red flags up in not only Europe's face, but in ours.
Yes, as one poster stated, there were plans being laid in the early 80s to divide and Islam's the Balkans. But our benevolent president Bill Clinton couldn't keep his zipper tended to, but instead sped things up and solidified that process by bombing Serbia into submission. Now the question is, why are we fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and then in the same breath, tossing Kosovo into the dumpster. There is no need for the U.S. or NATO to be in there, to as mentioned, bail Europe out. All that is necessary is to allow Serbia to take care of it's own internal affairs.
FYI -- California born & raised here, pal!
In case you were in a coma 7 years ago, Clinton & NATO bombed the crap out of Christians on behalf of bin Laden Muslims in Kosovo in something called "the 1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia". Ring a bell? Well, the US Clintoonians made a mess which has since festered into something quite cancerous that none of us will be immune to if it allowed to take over. Well, the Euros want to sweep it under the rug because they are scared of it -- and for some ungodly reason GWB is going along with this plan. If this happens, it will provide a new terror base for al Qaeda to launch attacks, it will wipe out the remaining Christians in the area and it will completely destabilize the Balkan neighborhood (Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro - right across the Adriatic from Italy) and it will also mean that no one will trust our word in the world again because the US will have broken its word..
Think Kosovo & Bosnia doesn't affect you? Just wait until the blond-haired, blue-eyed Bosnian Muslims start activating sleeper cells in the US! And, rest assured, we (our government) will have done this to ourselves.
Now, you can either take an interest in the world beyond your front door step and try to change that policy, or you can slip back into that blissfully ignorant coma again until it's too late. Your choice. But don't be fooled into thinking that those of us who do take an interest in our future can be catagorized as "wackos".
By the way, this was the flag of the Bosnian Muslim Nazis during WWII http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1667706/posts?page=25#25 (They're back!)
This is what was in Bosnia when Clinton decided the "Bosniaks" (Bosnian Muslims) were our friends and the Serb Christians were our enemies http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,91134-bosnia_p3705,00.html
Europe is quickly becomming a lost cause and at the current rate they are being settled by Muslims I almost think the Mussies are winning this crusade on Europe without firing a shot.
Making world safe for Wahhabism
Fascinating article, thanks for the ping When the sky is falling; some people get crushed by it on the way down, some people call the alarm, some people try to keep others calm, some people get cut when they pick up the pieces and some people laugh at the idiots who try to pick up the pieces.
I imagine an infinite chain of dominoes falling. We have just a few minutes to adjust the ones in front of us before they drop, knocking the next ones down. I didnt start the chain of events and I know I cant stop them, only make minor adjustments. Sometimes the adjustments have incalculable profits most of the time they dont.
Thanks for the great links Bokababe. I saw that old Nazi/Islamic flag and saved it. It just reinforces what has been reported on, and writen by people on the know. If mistakes were made by another U.S. president, it should be chiseled in stone, and move foreward. No, do the right by admitting the error, and correct it. Isn't that what most rational thinking would people do? Opps, I said the wrong thing!
I found this link also. It leads to the same video.
Source: Click hereThe Hidden Army Of Radical Islam
Report; Posted on: 2006-02-28 21:43:00
How the "West" forged a non-White Islamist threat in the very heart of Europe
Britain's Sky News is showing a chilling report about the large contingent of non-White Muslim mujahideen ("holy warriors") who continue to live in Bosnia ten years after "Western" nations led by NATO and assisted by brutal Muslim killers smashed the heroic Serb resistance and dissolved much of Yugoslavia. Many of the mujahideen were recruited by "Western" intelligence agencies which are now paying the price in the form of well-organized terrorist groups and drug- and people-smuggling gangs. The network responsible for the 7/7 London transport attacks had links to British intelligence assets, and the UK's investigation of the murderous outrage has run into roadblocks because of "national security" concerns.
The White Muslim Bosnians themselves have little sympathy for the violent non-Whites in their midst. The video report shows chanting non-Whites marching, along with horrifying clips of mujahideen abusing Serb prisoners.
Image: Muslim scum tortured and mutilated Serbs
The video may be seen here.
time to pray, friends.....
Whoa, I just looked at the link to National Vanguard. They're scary. Did you have a look at what they're about?
They also look like white supremacists or at least white separatists. That's the whole basis of their "views" on any given subject. Figures they would be anti-Semitic. Gives me the creeps.
I think Smartass may have used this source because they had a powerful photo with it. This Vanguard group copied the info from several different more credible sources and consolidated it in one spot, making it convenient to read.
The real irony is that Julia Gorin, author of the primary article is a Jew, and the Vanguard people are anti-semitic white supremacists -- yet they are both in agreement about what's going on in Bosnia and Kosovo. Should tell us something!
Pres Reagan asked the question "Are we better off than 4 years ago?" To update "Are we safer than 6 years ago?" And to use Rumsfeld's metric "Have we created more enemies than we have destroyed?"
Perhaps most telling about the minds of those who trained here is a document found at the camp. "I am interested in suicide operations," wrote Damir Bajrami, a 24-year-old ethnic Albanian from Kosovo, on his entry application in April 2001. "I have Kosovo Liberation Army combat experience against Serb and American forces. I need no further training. I recommend (suicide) operations against (amusement) parks like Disney."
Another article from Jihad Watch
GWB seems to hope that granting these animals independence will tame them, rather than encourage them. Don't think so Mr. Prez!
Unfortunately, this was a neocon war. Ever know Clinton to fight, willingly? He needed the cover of "intellectuals" like Bill Kristol and Krauthammer to join forces with McCain, Biden, Albright to send Wesley to the Balkans.
If you don't believe, do some searches on "neoconservative Balkans" and examine the theoretical, hegemonic underpinnings.
The neos have never had to answer for the Balkans, but you'll notice that Shwartz and Kristol are very good friends.
This is why I'm all for a post-neo conservatism. These "thinkers" have done more damage than they have helped.
Actually, this was one of those rare instances where the aqendas of the neocons and the libs crossed, but for two different reasons.
The Democrats wanted to narcissistically pretend that it was WWII and they were "saving the Jews" -- and Clinton needed something to take the US' minds off of Monica.
For the Neocons, the 50th anniversary of NATO was coming up with not a single engagement in all of those 50 years. But neocons didn't want NATO to disappear so NATO needed to validate its existence ASAP, because if it didn't, NATO would be an easy target for the political scrap heap.
A neocon lightbulb moment!: What better way for necons to validate NATO's existence and silence Lib objections to NATO's continuation than to makes its first engagement for a lib "humanitarian cause"? And that is precisely what the 1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia was billed as!
The "1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia" was nothing more than "a dirty political deal" brokered to satisfy the unwritten agendas of both the Neocon Republicans and the Liberal Democrats. The fact that people died, a country was destroyed, and we blew open the gates of Europe to Islamofascists was irrelevant to guys like Lieberman & McCain -- "The Donkeys and Elephants marched hand-in-hand and NATO was saved!" was supposed to be the real story -- even if where they marched was "into Hell"!
| If NATO is supposedly a peacekeeping force, then why are they just standing around watching the Islamofacists torch Christianity in Kosovo. By definition, what kind of peace is NATO attempting to keep? NATO forces claim they are helpless to intervene, because they don't want to get in the crossfire. Why the hell are NATO even in there? When is that territory going to be returned to it's rightful owner?
Support the war on terror...
This is what happened to Serbs 2 years ago in Kosovo http://www.kosovo.net/news_pogrom.html and the only difference between when this happened and today are that more Serbs have been "cleansed" from Kosovo and NATO is open in their support of the terrorists. There are several videos of the actual violence of March 2004 on this site.
AKA TROP POS alert!