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As Bush stands firm in the Middle East, he capitulates Europe
Jewish World Review ^ | July 26, 2006 | Julia Gorin

Posted on 07/26/2006 1:59:50 PM PDT by Bokababe

Writing for an outfit called FamilySecurityMatters.org last week, Weekly Standard contributor and longtime champion of Balkan Muslims Stephen Schwartz describes an overnight bus ride from Kosovo's capital Pristina to a resort town in Montenegro:

"A man behind me began speaking almost immediately and without stopping, in Albanian — which I understand…insistently focused on the nature of G-d (a favorite subject for Islamic fundamentalists), [and on] the nefarious influence of Sufis who thought they could reinterpret the faith, the evil intentions of Americans, Iraq, and bloodshed. I was startled because it is rare to hear Albanians, after the rescue of Kosovo, badmouth Americans…G-d is one, who are these people like this American who come and try to tell us how to be Muslims? What about Iraq? Why is this American here with his friend?"

Schwartz then describes a rest stop: "I did not find out where I was until I asked a waiter in the restaurant, because none of the Albanians crowded in the back with me and my Sufi companion and the whisperer in darkness would speak civilly to me. When I asked one man, in Albanian, the name of the town, he answered in Serbian: 'ne znam,' 'I don't know.' Another said it was the Montenegrin capital, Podgorica (it wasn't). And finally a thin punk who could not have been over 20, and who, I soon realized, had been encouraging the voice behind me, said in perfect English, 'I don't understand English.' At the end of the rest period all three people filed back into the bus and avoided looking at me.

"Muhammad woke up and asked me what was going on. I told him, 'Someone back here is making Wahhabi speeches.' He grinned as if in disbelief, but said, 'I'm not surprised.........

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: allybetrayed; antichristian; balkans; bosnia; bush; clintonlegacy; islamofascists; jihad; juliagorin; kosovo; serb; wot; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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To: Bokababe

41 posted on 07/27/2006 1:42:37 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: La Enchiladita; familyop; Smartass

I think Smartass may have used this source because they had a powerful photo with it. This Vanguard group copied the info from several different more credible sources and consolidated it in one spot, making it convenient to read.

The real irony is that Julia Gorin, author of the primary article is a Jew, and the Vanguard people are anti-semitic white supremacists -- yet they are both in agreement about what's going on in Bosnia and Kosovo. Should tell us something!


42 posted on 07/27/2006 7:08:22 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: A. Pole
TFP

Pres Reagan asked the question "Are we better off than 4 years ago?" To update "Are we safer than 6 years ago?" And to use Rumsfeld's metric "Have we created more enemies than we have destroyed?"

43 posted on 07/27/2006 7:25:34 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...
From an USA Today articleon what was found in one of the captured bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan:

Perhaps most telling about the minds of those who trained here is a document found at the camp. "I am interested in suicide operations," wrote Damir Bajrami, a 24-year-old ethnic Albanian from Kosovo, on his entry application in April 2001. "I have Kosovo Liberation Army combat experience against Serb and American forces. I need no further training. I recommend (suicide) operations against (amusement) parks like Disney."

Another article from Jihad Watch

GWB seems to hope that granting these animals independence will tame them, rather than encourage them. Don't think so Mr. Prez!

44 posted on 07/27/2006 7:49:36 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
re: clinton's war

Unfortunately, this was a neocon war. Ever know Clinton to fight, willingly? He needed the cover of "intellectuals" like Bill Kristol and Krauthammer to join forces with McCain, Biden, Albright to send Wesley to the Balkans.

If you don't believe, do some searches on "neoconservative Balkans" and examine the theoretical, hegemonic underpinnings.

The neos have never had to answer for the Balkans, but you'll notice that Shwartz and Kristol are very good friends.

This is why I'm all for a post-neo conservatism. These "thinkers" have done more damage than they have helped.

45 posted on 07/27/2006 7:57:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
"Unfortunately, this was a neocon war. Ever know Clinton to fight, willingly? He needed the cover of "intellectuals" like Bill Kristol and Krauthammer to join forces with McCain, Biden, Albright to send Wesley to the Balkans.

Actually, this was one of those rare instances where the aqendas of the neocons and the libs crossed, but for two different reasons.

The Democrats wanted to narcissistically pretend that it was WWII and they were "saving the Jews" -- and Clinton needed something to take the US' minds off of Monica.

For the Neocons, the 50th anniversary of NATO was coming up with not a single engagement in all of those 50 years. But neocons didn't want NATO to disappear so NATO needed to validate its existence ASAP, because if it didn't, NATO would be an easy target for the political scrap heap.

A neocon lightbulb moment!: What better way for necons to validate NATO's existence and silence Lib objections to NATO's continuation than to makes its first engagement for a lib "humanitarian cause"? And that is precisely what the 1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia was billed as!

The "1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia" was nothing more than "a dirty political deal" brokered to satisfy the unwritten agendas of both the Neocon Republicans and the Liberal Democrats. The fact that people died, a country was destroyed, and we blew open the gates of Europe to Islamofascists was irrelevant to guys like Lieberman & McCain -- "The Donkeys and Elephants marched hand-in-hand and NATO was saved!" was supposed to be the real story -- even if where they marched was "into Hell"!

46 posted on 07/27/2006 9:11:03 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: La Enchiladita; Bokababe; familyop
Hi folks...
Sticking with the topic.
I used that link for several reasons:
* It confirmed Julia Gorin's writing of a secret army.
* Confirms Islamofacists entrenchment in the Balkans.
* Mainly, a good solid link to the video confirming the above.

Other then that, you can toss the rest.   There are no
intentions of ever supporting neo Nazism, or white
supremacy by me to get points across.


 

47 posted on 07/27/2006 9:23:58 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Bokababe; La Enchiladita; Arizona Carolyn
If NATO is supposedly a peacekeeping force, then why are they just standing around watching the Islamofacists torch Christianity in Kosovo.   By definition, what kind of peace is NATO attempting to keep?   NATO forces claim they are helpless to intervene, because they don't want to get in the crossfire.   Why the hell are NATO even in there?   When is that territory going to be returned to it's rightful owner?


     
Support the war on terror...

 

 

48 posted on 07/27/2006 10:25:36 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

This is what happened to Serbs 2 years ago in Kosovo http://www.kosovo.net/news_pogrom.html and the only difference between when this happened and today are that more Serbs have been "cleansed" from Kosovo and NATO is open in their support of the terrorists. There are several videos of the actual violence of March 2004 on this site.

It's insane!


49 posted on 07/27/2006 10:51:57 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Stephen Schwartz

AKA TROP POS alert!


50 posted on 07/27/2006 10:53:46 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Bokababe; Czar; nicmarlo; texastoo; Kenny Bunk; EternalVigilance; janetgreen; hedgetrimmer; ...

NATO is insane in KOSOVO...
Pictue of a Muslim pissing on a gutted church,
while his buddy takes a photo to send to his
Muslim friends.

 

51 posted on 07/27/2006 11:26:09 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: airborne

Actually, the left would blame another 9/11-style attack on Bush and they would allege that nothing like this would ever have happened if we hadn't attack Iraq for their oil.

And the hoseheads will say it with a straight face too, lower lips quivering with indignation.


52 posted on 07/27/2006 11:31:02 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Stephen Schwartz; Bokababe; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; ...

I've heard that the jihadist known as Suleyman Ahmad lurks on these pages.


53 posted on 07/27/2006 11:35:05 AM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: FormerLib; Bokababe
Are you speaking of this person?
Are they one and the same?

click here

 

54 posted on 07/27/2006 11:49:47 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

Thanks so much Smartass!


55 posted on 07/27/2006 11:55:40 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: FormerLib

"I've heard that the jihadist known as Suleyman Ahmad lurks on these pages."

I've heard the same, but no specific screen names have been mentioned. Hmmmmmmm!


56 posted on 07/27/2006 11:57:59 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Smartass

Yep, that's the assho...uh, that's the guy.


57 posted on 07/27/2006 12:03:17 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Bokababe

Have a look here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1515237/posts


58 posted on 07/27/2006 12:04:35 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: FormerLib; Bokababe
LOL, OK, now I know who he is and what to look for.   Bear with me if on occasion I stumble or ask a dumb question.   I'm not totally green to the happenings in Balkans, but admittedly, I'm really a newbie to the discussions on the threads.

 

59 posted on 07/27/2006 12:13:56 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: FormerLib; Smartass

Cool! Thanks Formerlib!

Looks like Stephen Schwartz basically only posts the articles that he writes and then comments on them & defends them.

Not narcissistic at all, is he? LOL!


60 posted on 07/27/2006 12:45:29 PM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org)
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