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Vegan diet reverses diabetes symptoms, study finds
Yahoo News ^ | July 27, 2006 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 07/28/2006 4:30:14 AM PDT by grundle

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To: cyborg

Perhaps a dumb question...

Don't animals have a different digestive system than we do?

One that would make it easier for them to obtain protein from plants?

Or no?


41 posted on 07/28/2006 9:50:52 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: cyborg
When it comes to carbs and Type II diabetics, it's not the "refined carbohydrates" that are the problem, it's the "carbohydrates".

Your liver turns ALL that stuff into sugar. The trick is to eat only low glycemic vegetables to get your carbohydrates. That's going to be tomatoes, lettuce, celery, raw carrots, and so forth, forever!

The "complex carbohydrates" stuff was fake anyway. Doesn't matter whether the carbs are complex or simple, the body has ways of converting all of them instantly to exactly the type of sugar it prefers. Unless those carbs are wrapped in fiber (which is not converted to a preferred sugar), it's going to go in right now, not later, and it has nothing to do with the chemistry of the particular digestible carbohydrate you are consuming.

42 posted on 07/28/2006 9:52:44 AM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Ladysmith
Head's up, folks. In case anyone hasn't mentioned it here yet, this crowd is an animal right's group and has been slammed by the AMA:...

Thank you! You beat me to it. Unfortunately this fact will get lost in the "I turned my life around by eating tofu" noise.

43 posted on 07/28/2006 9:56:41 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: River_Wrangler
It is called "Beyeta" and is a last step before insulin.

I'm on Byetta (proper spelling) as well. Gee, it's been a year now. It's not a 'last step before insulin,' You can be prescribed Byetta after being on insulin. Byetta is a hormone and works differently than insulin.

I used Topamax for a number of months, went on Atkins, which really helped control the blood sugars, helped with weight loss, and let me eliminate insulin. While I thought I was watching the carbs before, it's not until you do something like Atkins that you really get a feel for staring those damn carbs in the face, not just watching them. : )

Now I take Byetta. I keep a fast acting insulin on hand for when I forget or am traveling (hard to lug that Byetta cold pack around - I'd rather just eat and treat w/the insulin pen).

I go to a university diabetes center. They tell me that in about a year we'll be able to take Byetta once a week. See also: http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3060

44 posted on 07/28/2006 10:01:29 AM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: cyborg
I've not eaten in the longest time.

Well, go eat something before you get sick!

45 posted on 07/28/2006 11:05:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I've always wanted to be 40 ... and it's as good as I anticipated!)
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To: cyborg

Reread my posts, I never said meat was the only source of protein, I said I don't see how cutting out meat is going to have any effect on diabetes... Dairy, yes, its full of sugars, but meat? Its fat and protien, neither of which messes with blood sugar levels.


46 posted on 07/28/2006 12:48:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cyborg
Well, I don't know. From the whacked-out ideas and beliefs some of these veggans have, it seems to me their brains are very malnourished from the lack of protein. Their diabetes may be down but at what costs to the rest of their bodies?

I'm with you on wild game being more healthy than the chemically-loaded farm animals. That and lower carb intact are the way to go. CRM nutballs don't give a rip about humans; they want to stop the harvesting of animals.

47 posted on 07/28/2006 4:07:09 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Gun owners have illustrated rights are individual and can be protected by individuals.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I wasn't challenging your statement, just talking about my experiences with protein.


48 posted on 07/28/2006 6:52:49 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: MplsSteve

Have no idea. I know that I've not had issues.


49 posted on 07/28/2006 6:54:05 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Ladysmith

I never joined PETA, PCRM is a arm of the PETA organisation. I do all my vegetarian advocacy and animal welfare campaigning on my own. They're too radical for me to associate with. MY FIL will never stop eating meat. I won't try as it's keeping him in very good shape. He also grows a substantial garden and works in it almost every day. Country life has big benefits. I see this now that I've returned to Long Island for a visit.


50 posted on 07/28/2006 6:58:13 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: grundle

A vegan diet...one of the main mandates, I mean objectives, of Healthy People 2010.


51 posted on 08/27/2006 1:50:44 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: Vaquero

I've always said that it's the chemicals, additives, and preservatives in processed foods which are probably the root cause for 90% of the "dieases" today, especially neurological diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's and MS.


52 posted on 08/27/2006 1:54:09 AM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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To: grundle
Where’s the Master of the Obvious when you need him? ;)

As already said, of course it reverses symptoms because it’s less carbs. Meat and dairy would do the same thing. It’s hard to cut down when you are so used to it. As a Type I myself, I never realized how much people snack until after I was diagnosed. Now at just 3 meals a day I have to pound down food to keep up with the calorie intake of my former snacking habits.

53 posted on 05/04/2007 7:15:45 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: Tax-chick

Cut out the red meat, sugar, white bread and pasta, add greens to every meal, and you will see drastic results.


54 posted on 05/04/2007 7:27:34 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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