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Was Qana Staged? Cont'd (Memogate II?)
NRO Corner ^ | July 31, 2006 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/01/2006 1:48:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Anti-Bubba182
No, one of the blog links said that, the photo itself says Beirut.

Since Jonah uses both conflicting links as citations it would seem he loses some credibility.

But since stlnative has proven over and over that these machines have the capacity to print such a large banner in minutes, and that it's established it was in Beirut and not Qana, it's entirely possible.

I choose to leave the conspiracy theories to the moonbats.

141 posted on 08/01/2006 7:23:34 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

Lebanese website blames the Hizbos:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1675713/posts


142 posted on 08/01/2006 7:23:56 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left is Nothing.)
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To: nopardons

I found this nice little website while stumbling around the web. These people are just stupid with a capital S.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/human-shield-lie-exposed.html


143 posted on 08/01/2006 7:27:00 AM PDT by DaiHuy (I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn't make it worse)
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To: itsamelman
It does not depend on an exact order. For instance if the banner could be printed as fast as some suggest it could be layed out on a computer and stored for the time. Fewer know the story that way.

Also you notice the man in the helmet and vest doing most of the body display. Fewer to know the state of the bodies and comment on that, (Why are they not crushed and bloody?).

They could have planned, in general, a Qana incident without picking a particular building. They are Shooting Rockets in the area and the Israelis cream a building, which does not fall. Instead of being alarmed they use the opportunity to load bodies, alive or dead, into the place and blow it up.

Then the photo op, banner and all the rest or other possible variation.

144 posted on 08/01/2006 7:28:34 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: stlnative

At the sign company I worked at we produced large format inkjet banners for billboards and other specialty signage. I'm talking 10'-20' x whatever roll length. The banners are printed on Flexface (reinforced vinyl). Which, from far away looks thinner and more supple than it really is. But, to support a banner of that size, the material needs to be very strong. A billboard company would stock the flexface and could presumably have much of the graphics done ahead of time, but there is still the issue of what you did in advance. I mean, are you "planning" on an incident where heavy civilian casualties give you an opportunity like this?


145 posted on 08/01/2006 7:33:36 AM PDT by visualops (visualops.com)
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To: Bryan24
Apparently you need to brush up on your "printing/computer" skills. All those things are readily available over the Internet.

as far as who paid for it it's irrelevant. And Hezbollah probably has enough in their budget.

146 posted on 08/01/2006 7:33:47 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: MindBender26; All
WHO IS THIS MAN? (FAKE STAGED RESCUE WORKER AT QANA???)
147 posted on 08/01/2006 7:36:13 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: xzins

Anytime :)


148 posted on 08/01/2006 7:37:44 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hezbolla knows, they fire rockets, Israelis target the location. Not too difficult to purposefully launch from a spot and be ready to exploit the results.
I also read the mass grave burial for the victims there was mention of people covering their mouths/noses because of the stench of the dead. Would recently dead (burial next day) be stinking already? Sorry to be gruesome.


149 posted on 08/01/2006 7:39:16 AM PDT by visualops (visualops.com)
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To: stlnative
it is simply not an involved process

It's not as simple as it seems.
150 posted on 08/01/2006 7:40:25 AM PDT by visualops (visualops.com)
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To: visualops
"..Would recently dead (burial next day) be stinking already?..."

No it would not. Another item that is not reasonable.

151 posted on 08/01/2006 7:42:53 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dallas59
Watch out for the Lefties, Democrats and terrorists to start calling the accusations being made of the Hezzies staging a massacre sick and perverted !

Of course many of them have no problem believing that George Bush and the CIA delibertly planned and executed the 9/11 attacks so Halliburton could make more money - but they have trouble believing that an avowed terrorist group could have staged this????

152 posted on 08/01/2006 7:43:59 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Someone invented the very descriptive word, Hezbollywood

Do they have the big group dance before or after blowing up?

153 posted on 08/01/2006 7:46:59 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I found this...

PRODUCT DETAILS

• Printed on durable 13 oz. matte white vinyl or 9 oz. mesh vinyl
• 3M solvent-based UV inks won’t fade for years
• High-resolution printing for stunning results
• Offered in 1-ft. increments to 16’ x 100’
• Larger sizes are available (multiple panels sewn together)



Banner Printing Guidelines

Banners have file different file preparation guidelines than offset printing. Please follow these steps when you are setting up your document to print a banner.

1. Set your document size including bleed

Scale your file to 12 to 1, so that 1 inch equals 1 foot. (1"=1') and add .125” bleed on each side. Thus a 4' x 6' banner would be submitted at 4.25" x 6.25"

2. Establish the safety area

Do not place important elements too close to the trim line as they could be trimmed off or sewn through during finishing. It is best to keep key elements of your banner .125” inside the edge.

If your banner uses pole pockets, put all text and design elements at least .33" inside of the cut line or they may be sewn through.

3. Choose your resolution

The required resolution for printing vinyl banners depends on viewing distance.

From five feet or less, submit at 1200 dpi
From five feet or more, submit at 900 dpi
From 10 feet or more submit at 600 dpi
From 50 feet or more, submit at 300 dpi
For example, banner that is 10’ x 20’ and viewed from 10 feet away must be printed as a 10" x 20" file at 600 DPI, or a total of 6,000 x 12,000 pixels. The same vinyl banner for viewing from 5 feet should be printed at 1200 dpi, or a total of 12,000 x 24,000 pixels for a 10" x 20" file.

Technical Name for this type of banner is:
Digital Vinyl Banner

Matte PVC vinyl banner material is great for indoor or outdoor use. Mesh vinyl is particularly well suited to outdoor use with very large banners or windy conditions


154 posted on 08/01/2006 7:47:16 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It doesn't really work that way.
Also, the print speeds given are going to be under ideal conditions.
These are very large high-res images that are ripped to the printer. Ripping a large file takes time above and beyond the print time.
That said, the banner is displayed near where it was printed so that saves time. The graphics layout can be done quickly but still takes time. But from what I understand there was a laspe of hours between the actual bombing and when the rescuers (and media attention) arrived on the scene. In fact on Fox there was some discussion of the big delay in the rescue efforts.


155 posted on 08/01/2006 7:49:20 AM PDT by visualops (visualops.com)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; stlnative
Good morning.
"I choose to leave the conspiracy theories to the moonbats."

So are you saying that you and stlnative don't buy the theory that the Cana bombing is a Hezbollah propaganda exercise? That the Israelis either did it on purpose or did it accidentally while indiscriminately bombing civilian areas, or, are you limiting your skepticism to the production of the banner?

Michael Frazier
156 posted on 08/01/2006 7:50:01 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

those raids on the UN building were a pr stunts also


157 posted on 08/01/2006 7:53:35 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thanks, I didn't know when the first Qana incident was. (I was in a fugue state for most of the Clinton years, couldn't bear to watch until the unavoidable Lewinsky mess began.)

Now that I look closer, all the Arabic font on that banner looks too even, considering the vertical wrinkle in the banner itself. There isn't any distortion to the s in "Rice," the last letter just before the exclamation points.


158 posted on 08/01/2006 7:55:23 AM PDT by Graymatter (Don't like the PC, the lies, of the MSM? Don't watch TV.)
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To: brazzaville

The banner could have been produced in the time frame given, with a certain degree of readiness (an open slot in your production schedule for starters). As I said in a previous post, Hezbolla knows their launchers will be targeted. So launch from where you want an Israeli airstrike and voila, civilian casualties to exploit. Whether dead were brought from another location, or women and children purposefully not evacuated is another matter.


159 posted on 08/01/2006 7:55:52 AM PDT by visualops (visualops.com)
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To: visualops
see post 154 on how simple it is to set the picture for banner printing. Any one that knows how to print photos out at home can follow these instructions.

As far as the graphics, all they had to do is add in the Qana wording to the graphic that was already in the works for another Condi/Hezzie propaganda project.
160 posted on 08/01/2006 8:01:27 AM PDT by stlnative
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