In Land of Jesus, Christians Struggle [And blame the USA]

Newhouse News ^ | 8/1/2006 | Steve Chambers

[VOA]

Sounds like some of the Christians in the West Bank have come down
with a dose of the Stockholm syndrome.

Sure seems that way.
I remember hearing Hugh Hewitt do a radio interview with a president of
a Bible College in (I think) Jerusalem.
Hewitt (and plenty of the listeners) were shocked to hear this guy
sing the praises of Arafat.
Some more knowledgeable folks have said that this is not that uncommon
amongst the Middle Eastern Christians.

[Esther Ruth]

Are some really not clear why the man believes what he does? His theology includes Replacement theology. He believes the land no longer belongs to the Jews but whoever else, someone else, the gentiles, him, but certainly not the Jewish people. He used the word "Occupation". He is coming along side whoever will clear the land of the occupying Jewish people, his bottom line. He sees nothing else I bet.

We should not be surprised at what some will do and say to prove their point and justify their very wrong beliefs. Especially now - Test!!! the Spirit (in an individual) to be certain where they stand in this regards especially.



1John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but TRY the spirits whether they are of God: because MANY false prophets are gone out into the world.

[A. Pole]

They may be Christians but they are also Arabs, steeped in Jew hatred.

Palestinian Christians are the direct descendants of the first Christians who were Jewish and lived there 2000 years ago. They never left and they have more right to the land than anybody else.

It is you who is steeped in hatred of others.

[A. Pole]

Are some really not clear why the man believes what he does? His theology includes Replacement theology.

Palestinian Christians have Jewish ancestors the same way as Talmudic Jews have.

[winner3000]

I don't think the people who were voting were thinking about what a Hamas victory would mean politically in Israel. They probably were thinking at a very micro level, i.e. I have to eat, those Fatah people have been stealing aid money for years and letting us starve; let's try the other guys who are now outside the government and therefore yet untouched by corruption. It's a similar feeling to the "throw the bums out" anti-incumbent dynamic that grips our own electorate once in a while.

Putting myself in their shoes, they see Israel making decisions that make sense to Israel, but make it difficult not only for the Hamas people, but for the non-Hamas people too to survive. By Israel not caring what happens to innocent people, those people over time will radicalize.

[colorado tanker]

That's the State Department view of the world and I couldn't disagree more. The Arabs must be held to the standards the rest of the world observes.

Elsewhere, when radicals come to government as "reformers" they are expected to conform and govern responsibly. So should Hamas.

No where else in the world would a country be expected to accept the excuse, sorry about the rockets but you can't retaliate or you might radicalize the populace, when the so-called "moderates" voted the people shooting the rockets into power in the first place!

The solution is for the Palis to demand that their government quit making war on Israel by firing rockets, attacking and kidnapping Israeli troops, all on the land of Israel proper. Not to demand Israel not respond to acts of war coming from the Palis.

[sinkspur]

It is you who is steeped in hatred of others.

Your anti-semitism oozes from every post.

You'd prefer the Jews be driven into the sea, correct?

[A. Pole]

You'd prefer the Jews be driven into the sea, correct?

No. I want ME Christians to be helped and protected the same way as Israeli Jews are. No more, no less.

[sinkspur]

Your post is so on target, it capsulizes the problem and solution in less than fifty words. I especially like this:

No where else in the world would a country be expected to accept the excuse, sorry about the rockets but you can't retaliate or you might radicalize the populace, when the so-called "moderates" voted the people shooting the rockets into power in the first place!

This is also the excuse the Lebanese government is using to call for a cease-fire.

[madison10]

I have read other articles about the Palestinian Christians siding with the Muslims. It probably is Stockholm Syndrome.

It's not Stockholm Syndrome, it's the culture. I have Christian friends of Arab descent living here (the family has been here for four generations) who have roots in the Middle East. The disgust with Jews is strong and my friends have nothing to fear from terrorists or retaliation. It's just how it is.

[sinkspur]

I want ME Christians to be helped and protected the same way as Israeli Jews are. No more, no less.

By having Jews stand by and tolerate rockets into their country, killing civilians, and doing nothing when their soldiers are kidnapped?

The Lebanese army, instead of sucking up to the Hezzies, should drive these terrorists out of their cities. They won't, because they have more in common with the Hezzies than the Christians.

[A. Pole]

Did you say that you are Catholic? Where is your concern for ME Christians?

[colorado tanker]

Thank you, that's high praise indeed coming from you.

[sinkspur]

By having Jews stand by and tolerate rockets into their country, killing civilians, and doing nothing when their soldiers are kidnapped?

I asked this question, and you ignored it.

You ignored a similar question about Israelis the other night.

The fact is, you don't give a damn about the Israelis do you?

My concern for the ME Christians is the same as my concern for Israelis being shelled by Hezbollah.

If you stop Hezbollah, everybody's happy.

How many of the ME Christians hate Israelis, just as you do? I suspect many of them. A poll released today stated that 80% of the country of Lebanon supports Hezzbollah. There are ME Christians in that number.

Christians supporting terrorism.

[A. Pole]

How many of the ME Christians hate Israelis, just as you do?

I told you I don't. But since people tend to judge others by themselves, I wonder if you don't hate ME Christians by any chance?

[sinkspur]

By having Jews stand by and tolerate rockets into their country, killing civilians, and doing nothing when their soldiers are kidnapped?

Are you going to answer this question, or can I just assume what your answer would be?

You will not show an ounce of concern for the Israelis, will you?

[newfarm4000n]

Well ME christians do pray to allah..That makes them at least questionable in sincerity to jesus.

[danmar]

They have been abandoned though, I don't hear much from the American Christian community about helping them out. They are definitely getting the short end of the stick in all this!

You know Kidster, me thinks you're on something.Come to think of it nether the Pope nor the Orthodox Church Patriarch/Archbishop cared to come to aid the Holy Land and/or the Christians to preserve our Christian Heritage artifacts.
At least I haven't heard any public statement in regards to the plight of Cristian's out of the Holly Land.

[A. Pole]

By having Jews stand by and tolerate rockets into their country, killing civilians, and doing nothing when their soldiers are kidnapped? Are you going to answer this question, or can I just assume what your answer would be?

Bombing Lebanon after kidnapping of two soldiers was not the right answer. This is the reason for the whole mess. Now I do not know what is the proper solution.

If Sharon did not get sick he would not make such erroneous move.

[A. Pole]

Well ME christians do pray to allah..That makes them at least questionable in sincerity to jesus.

You write Lord Jesus name using upper case "J", sir.