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Woe Be Unto Those Who Offend "Little Ones"
8-1-06 | JOHN W LILLPOP

Posted on 08/02/2006 3:16:20 AM PDT by aerotsmith

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To: aerotsmith
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

What about the part that says "which believe in me". If you want to play the goofy "take one verse out of context" game, then you would have to admit that these children DON'T QUALIFY, since they believed in Allah. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.

61 posted on 08/02/2006 4:34:19 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: deaconjim

Wonder how Jesus feels about people using His name to attack His people to further their own political agenda?"

I rather suspect that Jesus could give a darn about political agendas and the like.

His message seems to have eluded you----especially as concerns the innocent 'Little Ones.'

Doubt very much that He would consider quoting His words from Matthew 18:6 as an 'attack' on anyone.

Quite the opposite in fact.


62 posted on 08/02/2006 4:37:06 AM PDT by aerotsmith
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To: aerotsmith
Why did YOU post such idiotic drivel?

Fella, you are starting to annoy me...



 

63 posted on 08/02/2006 4:40:10 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: aerotsmith
"Matthew 18 is 'propoganda?' Sick!"

A mind can become so muddled-up by spiritualistic, symbolic "types and shadows" and similar arguments, that offending "little ones" in one circumstance is equated with another circumstance of hitting an enemy weapons site and later finding that the enemy had put his children on that site.

Then you waffled from spiritual leaps of illogic to a literal extreme: that "Jesus made no allowances for 'Collateral Damage' or 'Tragic Mistakes'." So Jesus didn't allow for "mistakes?" Is that a Christian law?

Israel didn't even really make a "mistake" in hitting that target. It was a weapons site. The enemy intentionally put children on that site.
64 posted on 08/02/2006 4:40:58 AM PDT by familyop ("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
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To: AmericaUnited

have to admit that these children DON'T QUALIFY, since they believed in Allah. Sorry, you can't have it both ways."

Good point. So, Jesus MEANT to say:

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

As for Little Ones who do NOT BELIEVE IN ME and worship instead Allah, blessed are those who hang a millstone around their tiny necks and drown them in the depth of the sea."

Somehow His SPIRITUAL message seems missing in that!


65 posted on 08/02/2006 4:42:06 AM PDT by aerotsmith
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To: aerotsmith

But who is it who offended them? The Israelis who dropped the bomb, or the Lebanese who started the war, and hid behind the children?


66 posted on 08/02/2006 4:43:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: AmericaUnited

Everyone needs to quit arguing about this; you're getting lured down the path that implies that Israel killed these children. They didn't. Those who used them as human shields did. Israel is innocent in this.

If you would be sick enough to take a little kid and throw him in front of a truck, killing him, would the truck be the killer, or would you be the killer? The truck was just the instrument used to kill the kid; YOU killed the kid.

The same argument applies to "Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people."

In this case, Israel is just the instrument that the terrorists used to kill children.


67 posted on 08/02/2006 4:44:10 AM PDT by Diggler
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To: Diggler

Arguing with this troll only gives validation to the erronous question.


68 posted on 08/02/2006 4:46:17 AM PDT by Diggler
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To: mrsmel
I wonder what CHRIST would have to say about "little ones" dressed in camo, equipped with grenades and AK-47's, firing Russian built RPG's into a tank from the Army of GOD? Israelis are indeed "GOD's chosen people", so it follows that their Army would be HIS by choice!

LLS
70 posted on 08/02/2006 4:46:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: aerotsmith
You either take the verse literally, out of context (which the author did) or you properly understand it in context. If choice 1, then only "believer" child are covered. If choice 2, then "does not allow for collateral damage" is a total crock. Choose...
71 posted on 08/02/2006 4:51:44 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: aerotsmith
The Weaponization of Children
72 posted on 08/02/2006 4:52:42 AM PDT by Gritty (Unlike the birthplace of your grandfather, Islam isn't left behind in the old country-Mark Steyn)
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To: aerotsmith

It seems to me that a lot of people get confused about what matters. They think world opinion or the international community are important. Ask Ahminijad. He says, not so. Israelis, likewise, keep their heads down and do their job while media types flutter and chatter meaninglessly around them.


73 posted on 08/02/2006 4:54:43 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: aerotsmith
"Hezbelloh has been accused on using civilians, including children, as human shields. The Israeli government claims that the death of innocent children was a "tragic mistake." . . Jesus made no allowances for 'Collateral Damage' or 'Tragic Mistakes,' all too common during a bloody war. The millstone would appear to apply to all who harm His 'Little Ones.'"

So, in the usual roundabout, antisemitic way, you're saying that millstones should be hung around the necks of the people of Israel, and that they be drowned.

Because you're advocating for the terrorists, let's use a good analogy to fit your effort.

Let's say you tied your children to railroad tracks at the end of a railroad tunnel (as the enemy positioned his children at the weapons site). Then a train came through the tunnel and ran over the children. The sad engineer later said that the deaths of the children was a "tragic mistake."

Would you blame the engineer as you're blaming Israel?

Of course, you would.
75 posted on 08/02/2006 4:56:12 AM PDT by familyop ("The Jews have done more to civilize men than any other nation..." --President John Adams)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I wonder what CHRIST would have to say about "little ones" dressed in camo, equipped with grenades and AK-47's, firing Russian built RPG's into a tank from the Army of GOD? Israelis are indeed "GOD's chosen people", so it follows that their Army would be HIS by choice!

Amen!

Revelation 19:11-15~11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
76 posted on 08/02/2006 4:56:17 AM PDT by mrsmel (Men possess talent. Genius possesses men. Chocolate cravings possess women.)
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To: aerotsmith

IMO, our country should adopt laws in favor of hanging millstones around the necks of our enemies (including all kinds of neo-Nazis--especially slippery crypto-Nazis), and tossing them all into the ocean. Our enemies and their sympathizers (propagandists) are worse than offensive--murderous to children.


77 posted on 08/02/2006 5:01:57 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: backhoe
"BEWARE OF FALLING ZOT!"

And that's what he/she got: the ZOT!
78 posted on 08/02/2006 5:06:02 AM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: aerotsmith

The party that offended these dead children is Hezbollah and their Lebanese enablers.

Pure and simple.


79 posted on 08/02/2006 5:07:22 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: aerotsmith

Hezb'allah purposely put the children in harm's way. They are culpable, not Israel. Israel is/was defending herself and did not intentionally target the "Little ones." Hezb'allah will be the ones answering for the deaths in front of the Judge...and I bet He ain't Allah.


80 posted on 08/02/2006 5:08:52 AM PDT by madison10
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