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Why America and the world need free trade
The Prometheus Institute ^ | 8/2/2006 | M. Harrison

Posted on 08/02/2006 8:41:11 AM PDT by tang0r

Forget the politicking on the news about tariffs and subsidies. The true advantages of free trade, toward which small political steps as the Doha trade round are vital, are to the long-term financial and social benefit of America and the world. Were free trade effectively implemented, instead of being torpedoed by the demagogic posturing of reactionary Leftists, the progress and development it inspired would improve the lives of millions of people.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: competition; doha; freetrade; globalism; libertarian; thirdworld; trade
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To: hedgetrimmer
What does the author mean by this? That consumers all over the world get lower prices? What about in countries where the prices are already low? Do they go even lower?

Open an economics textbook and read up on comparative advantage. Then perhaps you can begin to understand how this works.

Example from Wikipedia:

Two men land alone in an isolated island. To survive they must undertake a few basic economic activities like water carrying, fishing, cooking and shelter construction and maintenance.

The first man is young, strong, and educated and is faster, better, more productive at everything. He has an absolute advantage in all activities. The second man is old, weak, and uneducated. He has an absolute disadvantage in all economic activities. In some activities the difference between the two is great; in others it is small.

Is it in the interest of either of them to work in isolation?
No, specialization and exchange (trade) can benefit both of them.

How should they divide the work? According to comparative, not absolute advantage: the young man must spend more time on the tasks in which he is much better and the old man must concentrate on the tasks in which he is only a little worse. Such an arrangement will increase total production and/or reduce total labour. It will make both of them richer.

81 posted on 08/03/2006 1:44:20 PM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It's funny, really. Just yesterday I was reading the Federal Regulations concerning Mexican trucks. They evaporated in less than 24 hours.


82 posted on 08/03/2006 1:45:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
What does the author mean by this? That consumers all over the world get lower prices?

Yes.

Does this mean that the cost of goods is lower, which implies that the cost of labor is lower?

The cost of goods is lower. It involves increased efficiency and productivity.

Why doesn't the author say that the most important 'benefit' of "free trade" to transnational corporations is its deliverance of lower wages for all workers?

Is that why wages in America keep rising?

83 posted on 08/03/2006 1:47:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Mase

Do we really? I'd choose 1944 over 2006 anytime for raising a kid. Were you even there?


84 posted on 08/03/2006 1:49:02 PM PDT by Medicine Warrior (There are a thousand hacking at the branches of Evil, to one who is striking at the root)
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To: hedgetrimmer
But free trade lowers prices. What the author left out was, for transnational corporations. That doesn't necessarily mean lower prices on goods purchased in the United States.

Hey hedge, I'm still waiting for you to identify one citizen of the US (living) who isn't also a consumer. If you can't, it would mean that all citizens are consumers and benefit from lower prices.

Do you just hate transnational corporations or do you hate all business?

85 posted on 08/03/2006 1:50:55 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Medicine Warrior
Were you even there?

No, but I've heard stories of relatives I never had the opportunity to meet because they died of polio and other diseases back then that are rarely seen today.

Your sentiment is just that. It's a feeling that may sound good now but, if faced with a choice of life in 1944 vs. 2006, the vast majority would opt for the comforts, safety, freedoms and life expectancy we enjoy today.

86 posted on 08/03/2006 2:02:32 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Medicine Warrior

He's just joking when he talks about the 'freedoms' we have today.


87 posted on 08/03/2006 3:06:16 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
He's just joking when he talks about the 'freedoms' we have today.

Thanks for the ping. You probably don't know many African Americans, do you? Of course you don't. Do you think women have more opportunities and freedom today than they did in 1944? Does a larger percentage of our population go to college today than in 1944? We have the best military in the world today and it's all volunteer.

Do you have more choices as a consumer today? Is travel easier today than it was in 1944? Would you rather be alive in 1944 or today? Have you found one citizen who is not also a consumer? If so, please ask him/her is they like lower prices or higher prices and get back to us. Thanks in advance.

88 posted on 08/03/2006 3:25:25 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase
Life expectancy, per capita income, ability to travel, communicate, etc.
89 posted on 08/03/2006 3:31:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Smartass

RE; #63

While they have illegals in the ER. give them vaccinations.

That will solve the problem sooner or later!

Next: Coroner.


90 posted on 08/03/2006 4:06:20 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Mase
You probably don't know many African Americans, do you?

Considering you don't know who you're talking to, maybe you should keep race out of it. And gender for that matter.
91 posted on 08/03/2006 4:51:35 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Hedge, you're dealing with:


 

92 posted on 08/03/2006 6:38:41 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Larousse2

Lest we forget...

 

93 posted on 08/03/2006 6:42:50 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: hedgetrimmer
maybe you should keep race out of it. And gender for that matter.

Are you agreeing with me then that African Americans and women have more freedom and opportunities today than they did in 1944? Do you think these people are excited about the fact that their children and grandchildren have better lives and more freedom and opportunity than they did?

Since you agree with me please explain your comment in post #87. Tell us where I was joking.

I'm also waiting for you to explain how American citizens, who are also consumers, would be against the lower prices that free(r) trade delivers.

94 posted on 08/03/2006 7:41:07 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Smartass

No, haven't seen it. Its interesting though, isn't it?


96 posted on 08/03/2006 10:15:35 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Does he think we live on flat earth where human beings only have one dimension, and that is what they consume??

Bookmarked for later.

97 posted on 08/03/2006 10:33:21 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Smartass

In other words, be careful of he who holds the pencil.

As I understand it, Paulson, Sec of Trea., will be devaluing the dollar slowly. It will make our trade deficit look as if it has gone down. We will see all kinds of charts and hooplas while prices rise.


98 posted on 08/04/2006 6:55:45 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Protectionists are bad at math and they have reading comprehension issues.But we know our borders and how water flows south. LOLOLOL It looks like you free traders could at least learn the map of the US. LOLOLOL
99 posted on 08/04/2006 7:17:13 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: texastoo
But we know our borders and how water flows south.

So the Rio Grande doesn't flow south?

100 posted on 08/04/2006 7:19:46 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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