The New Vietnam Myths

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | August 1, 2006 | Michael Benge

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[Rembrandt]

'our politicians surrendered to the North Vietnamese communists
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Kelly, weren't we winning when we left?'
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We were ALWAYS winning IN country. We were usually losing in Congress and always losing on the network news. When Teddy and company pulled the funding the U.S. had to slink away and the S. VN had to pay the price. Dispicable!!!!!!

[trumandogz]

Jimmy Carter should hang his head in shame for pulling all American troops out of Viet Nam. Not only was America disgraced but millions died due to Carter's cut n run from S.E. Asia. I never will forget that image of the last helicopter leaving the US Embassy as it was being overrun by the Communists.

[Toidylop]

"U.S. had to slink away and the S. VN had to pay the price. Dispicable!!!!!!"

The S.VN pay the price EVEN to the third generation for anyone related to the S.VN army... Very sad.

[kellynla]

"Kelly, weren't we winning when we left?"

We never lost a major battle and that includes the TET offensive.
The Viet Nam war was lost in America not in Viet Nam.

[scrabblehack]

Sorry, it was Ford...maybe Nixon....Saigon fell during the Ford Administration.

[bitt]

bump

[potlatch]

#15, lol, been here - done that. Just not very wordy!!

[nopardons]

bttt

[185JHP]

Coddling human filth in a commie govt. Reminds me of the lyric about times when "money doesn't talk it swears."

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

I saw a rather appropriate POW-MIA patch the other day that said:

BRING THEM HOME
OR SEND US BACK.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

thanks for the ping, ping to #32

[MaineVoter2002]

I was in Vietnam (independently - on my own with friends who live in Saigon (his dad fought with Americans against the north) and I can say that the stories I hear of North Korea and Cuba make the Vietnam I saw look like San Francisco.

There is much room for improvement there especially in freedom of speech. It is forbidden to talk negatively about the government.

I did see a public school with crosses on the building. I thought that was so strange. In my American city the government has been buying churches and removing all crosses. I asked my friend if it were a private school. He said "no, it's public".

While I question whether or not China is a nation we should be trading with as much as we do I can say that Vietnam is in the situation where our products, culture and our trade will bring them more freedom.

There are many cafenets throughout the country and unlike China they are not censured. I often send my America loving friends articles from FR. He's been here in FR looking around at this site in a cafenet in Saigon. I doubt that happens in China.

Lastly, unlike much of Europe, you will find that the Vietnamese people welcome, appreciate and LOVE Americans and the American culture. You will see many young people on their motorbikes wearing American Flag baseball caps and shirts. Believe it or not, my friend is a big fan of Oprah and American Idol. They are part of their TV schedule in Saigon.They LOVE Madonna and Pirates is playing in the Cinemas of Saigon.

They are very in touch with our culture and they are loving it. I say good for them.

Vietnam is not a place any of us would want to live. They have much to do to be considered "free" as we are in the west but I can tell you from experience that they seem much happier now than my friends in Venezuela. Chavez... we should be keeping an eye on that man.

By the way, the photos of the men in re-eduacation camps are old. Vietnam is not so perfect that we need to be posting 70s and 80s images of the place. But let's atleast give credit where credit is due. And yes, we should stand firm with Vietnam and encourage them to continue in the right direction.

It's CHINA, North Korea that worry me. And Chavez concerns me. They are NOT going in the right direction. And Chavez is very close.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[R. Scott]

Hanoi’s current foreign policy is based on the same premise as Goebbels’ statement above, and it is evident that the State Department, the Bush administration and Congress again have bought the communists’ lies, for they are about to reward Hanoi with Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) and an endorsement into the World Trade Organization.

I don’t know if they have “bought the communists’ lies” as much as ignored them. Our “esteemed” leaders jump at any chance to “expand our overseas markets” – which results in us allowing even more imports from countries using slave labor to keep the cost of manufacturing as low as possible. There is no way American workers can compete with a worker being paid an average of $.25 an hour.
I am beginning to think it is all part of the Globalization push for a One World Government.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for posting this article.

I refuse to buy anything made in Vietnam like anything made in Red China when I have an alternative.

This past week, I became aware that Vietnam is making outdoor clothing for companies like Columbia.

Communists still control Viet Nam with the same horrible authoritorian/anti human controls as in Cuba and Red China.

[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

Could you define to me what it takes to "win" a war.

[JulieRNR21]

Winning a war IMO...means the mission that began the war is completed.

In Iraq it would mean that Saddam is out of power and cannot reconstitute his WMDs and support terrorism.

Also that the Iraqi people can bring him to justice for his crimes against them.

And that Iraq's fledgling democracy is strong enough to defend itself from terrorists who want to prevent its success.

We need to remain & support the Iraqis until they achieve the ability to 'preserve their freedom.'

[Just A Nobody]

Thanks for the ping. Saving for later read.